Curlyxz Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Some older songs lose their live spontaneity and energy when played to a metronome, especially when they set the metronome to a tempo much lower than early performances. New Born is a big offender, compare these: Ugh, New Born definitely got the worst of this. Feels so slow compared to past tours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heyjackk Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Ugh, New Born definitely got the worst of this. Feels so slow compared to past tours. New Born's been fine since the stadium leg on T2L tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Ugh, New Born definitely got the worst of this. Feels so slow compared to past tours. It's back now though Well, the...8 times it's been played this year, at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regilistic Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 They finally got New Born right this year, proper tempo and Matt actually playing the piano intro. But of course Muse decide to drop it, and when it comes back it'll probably be slowed right down again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectrum IV Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 I just checked a few: Hullabaloo: 157 bpm Glasto 2004: 150 bpm Glasto 2010: 144 bpm Mayan 2015: 151 bpm So it's actually faster than Glasto 2004 now. Still needs more post-piano guitar wanking though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 No T2L tour? That was the real low point. 2012 for sure. Also studio version ranges from 153-157. ~146 during the intro. Just looking at the FoF chart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectrum IV Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 I'm talking about the verse here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 ~153 then for studio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunge Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 The Kroq 2004 one is about eight million bpm, iirc . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChandlerHeel Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 While I am with everyone else on the "we need much better setlists" thing, my two cents...a few are suggesting a Madness rotation and that makes no sense. It was their biggest US hit by miles. It is always going to need to be in US shows for casual fans. Now, UD is a different story which I could do without. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Little Animal Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 While I am with everyone else on the "we need much better setlists" thing, my two cents...a few are suggesting a Madness rotation and that makes no sense. It was their biggest US hit by miles. It is always going to need to be in US shows for casual fans. Now, UD is a different story which I could do without. They're rotating Revolt which is their current single. Sense was never a part of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halo eighteen Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 They're rotating Revolt which is their current single. Sense was never a part of this. Reapers is actually the current US single, but yeah. Creep is (one of) Radiohead's biggest song(s) and they hardly ever play that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Little Animal Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Reapers is actually the current US single, but yeah. It is? Either way, it's rotated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn. Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Creep is (one of) Radiohead's biggest song(s) and they hardly ever play that. But that's only because the cover Muse released on Exogenesis IV put the original song in shame. They know they can't match Muse's version so they opt to forget the song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corkscrewed Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 (edited) Feeling Good needs to die. How is a cover from their second album still being played when they have a ton of their own library to go through? Also, I don't think either of their Staples shows were sell outs. Tickets were still available for both nights through AXS the night before. I had a couple of empty seats around me last night too. Staples night 1 was officially a sell out. AXS released tickets for Friday's show at 3pm on Thursday, which is why you saw some floating around. But the arena was packed. Staples night 2 either sold out late or was close. But the arena was pretty packed for night 2 also. However, I think that there's only a small handful of other North America shows sold out. The tour's definitely been doing worse than past tours. No one's going to look at this one and claim Muse is the next U2 this time. ^Metronome basically. Something some musicians use (particularly drummers) in their ear pieces to keep on time and to make things match up exactly with any production (video,pyro,etc.) - I'm not sure how this would entirely affect the audience, as it wouldn't be audible. And this probably isn't the first tour Muse have used click tracks. And that's why that poster seems full of crap. The click track should only be heard in the musician's ears, not the audience's. Not sure how this affects our experience unless he's talking about tempo (like New Born, as everyone's pointed out), which in case he should say tempo. Reapers is actually the current US single, but yeah. Is it? Damn, LA radio really is shite, cuz I haven't heard it. Then again, ALT 987 is alternative, and KROQ has been following that route and going away from heavy stuff, so not surprised I haven't heard it on air. Now, UD is a different story which I could do without. AGREED. Creep is (one of) Radiohead's biggest song(s) and they hardly ever play that. Radiohead is not the same as Muse. They've turned away from commercialism and put on gigs that are more about the music and artistry of the songs. They stopped playing Creep long ago because it was too popular. Edited December 22, 2015 by Corkscrewed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunge Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 The Kroq 2004 one is about eight million bpm, iirc . It's still so good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5lNAUrGJ3k . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander DeLarge Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 She. Good point nevertheless Shit. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JessicaSarahS Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 It's still so good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5lNAUrGJ3k . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heyjackk Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 It's still so good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5lNAUrGJ3k . 160 for the riff 155 in the verse 158 in the chorus 161 in the solo or thereabouts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunge Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 So that's... 634bpm, right - multiplied by six minutes length is 3,804bpm. /music. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heyjackk Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 So that's... 634bpm, right - multiplied by six minutes length is 3,804bpm. /music. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicklord Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 So that's... 634bpm, right - multiplied by six minutes length is 3,804bpm. /music. . Amazing post But that version is terrible. It's fast as fuck but it ruins the song for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunge Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Wash your mouth out son, that version is incredible for the fact it is so fast . I kind of agree in parts though; the riff sounds a bit odd at that speed in particular. I love it though because it's so outrageously over the top . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heyjackk Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 So I decided to conduct a little experiment today. Made a playlist for the car ride full of a mixture of songs that most board members don't wanna hear at a gig/the songs they say are played for casual muse fans and a couple of songs they feel they only play for the "hardcore minority" and played it to my girlfriend who only has Psycho, Uprising and Madness on her phone and is the definition of a 'casual muse fan.' These were her reactions. Undisclosed Desires - Ohhhh I really like this one you know I like this one! Guiding Light - oh no Resistance - This intro goes on a while doesn't it. When does he start singing? *cue 'is our secret safe'* Oh god I wish he hadn't NEXT Neutron Star Collision - *laughs* what the hell is this Hysteria (because it's being rotated with Resistance) - Yeah I like this one better Feeling Good - Why I don't like this at all Revolt - This one is fun I like this Starlight - eh, I don't mind it but it's kinda lame (this surprised me) I Belong to You - uhhhhh no Aftermath - I don't dislike it but I've heard you play better ones to me Reapers - This is cool I really like this one The Handler - This is my favourite so far I really like his voice Citizen Erased - Like... It's good... but I don't really like it (she skipped it ) Assassin - This has a really long intro too but it's much better (than Resistance) but I don't really like it that much (she skipped it too ) Bliss - I've heard this one I like it (gets to Matt's falsetto - I played her the Mayan one) oooo this is cool i like it Map of the Problematique - This is your favourite right? I like it too it's really cool with the effects So basically what I got from this is that while they may be justified slightly by saying Assassin and Citizen Erased etc aren't liked as much by the majority of 'casual muse fans' - casual muse fans still dislike Resistance, Guiding Light and some of them don't even like Starlight. She preferred Bliss, Hysteria, Reapers to the rest and she also ended up enjoying The Handler and Map of the Problematique - this is a girl who loves listening to Top 40 music constantly as well. So like c'mon Muse, get your shit together and play at least one song for the older fans because chances are casual fans will enjoy the spectacle much more than some of the less appealing ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 CE and Assassin are the most dissonant of the bunch so it doesn't surprise me if one skips the other does too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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