Mr. ORANGE Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 I agree with Thoughts of a Dying Atheist - but only because the playing and singing simultaneously - the guitar itself with full focus on it is childsplay...Same goes for The Groove and Unnatural Selection - only laying and singing is difficult...Stockholm riff needs some slow - faster - you rock! kind of practice but it's also not hard...The only difficult thing for me was playing Falling Down intro on the acoustic (without delays and on heavy strings...)...But anyway - his guitar parts are innovative and cool - so why should they be dificult...Yeah and some parts added for live shows are quite difficult (like the crazy part between the 1st and 2nd verse of Muscle Museum at Glasto 04)... Piano parts aren't problem for me - I've been playing piano since 6...Not even singing and playing...But generally - Muse piano parts are way harder than guitar... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. ORANGE Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 I play bass and I have to say New Born was a real pain in the ass in the beginning, but after a while it gets really easy! One that gives me a bit of trouble is Futurism, but I guess I just need practice... Come on ! I need a bassist like you...around me, no one is willing to play Muse on the bass...it was a nightmare to put my bassist through Muscle Museum, Bliss and Hysteria (still not perfect), not even talking about Knights of Cydonia, which is hell to memorise (because telling him something about moving harmony in different keys is useless)...Well I really think bass is more complicated than guitar in Muse songs...Chris is just the best ! My favourite ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muse59200 Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 I think the hardest song to play is cave, because of the riff, need to mute the strings, not very easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitt Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Come on ! I need a bassist like you...around me, no one is willing to play Muse on the bass...it was a nightmare to put my bassist through Muscle Museum, Bliss and Hysteria (still not perfect), not even talking about Knights of Cydonia, which is hell to memorise (because telling him something about moving harmony in different keys is useless)...Well I really think bass is more complicated than guitar in Muse songs...Chris is just the best ! My favourite ! Haha I've only ever played TSP on an electric guitar cause I don't have one myself and I have to say.. I was surprised at how easy it was Well I say it's easy, because it didn't take me a lot of time to figure it out and play it, maybe 15 minutes? But I find it tricky to judge the difficulty of a song because most of the time, once you practice a little bit, it gets much much easier. So in the end you don't know what's easy and what isnt or maybe I'm just being weird, in which case you shall ignore this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. ORANGE Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Well that's because you've put a lot of practice in it...For example I can play difficult parts easily and memorising is easier (on the piano especially) than easy parts just because easy parts I can read from sheets or by ear...I've never learned to play some easy classical music (like Bach Preludium N.1, or 1st Mov. of Moonlight Sonata from Beethoven) without reading it just because I could read and play it quite easily...Excuse my English though, I'm pretty sure you lot wouldn't say it in those words... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telestrat Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 This is to the the posts about Stockholm Syndrome being easier than Hysteria, and is my opinion: I have been playing guitar for about 8 years now, and I seem to have 'mastered' Hysteria, the whole lot, bass and guitar and for me (personal opinion) Stockholm Syndrome seems much harder, just faster all the way through. If you put your mind to both, I guess it'll be similar for you. However, this is only my opinion, I havent worked as hard on Stockholm Syndrome and maybe this explains why. TeleStrat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomrulez Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 This is to the the posts about Stockholm Syndrome being easier than Hysteria, and is my opinion: I have been playing guitar for about 8 years now, and I seem to have 'mastered' Hysteria, the whole lot, bass and guitar and for me (personal opinion) Stockholm Syndrome seems much harder, just faster all the way through. If you put your mind to both, I guess it'll be similar for you. However, this is only my opinion, I havent worked as hard on Stockholm Syndrome and maybe this explains why. TeleStrat They are both pretty simple tbh. Micro cuts always gets me, I really struggle with the intro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 They are both pretty simple tbh. Micro cuts always gets me, I really struggle with the intro. I love playing Micro Cuts. Way easier than both Hysteria and SS for me. Goes to show how it varies person to person I think one of my strengths in guitar playing is the sort of picking movement you see in Micro Cuts verse, TOADA and so on Tapping I completely fail at Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomrulez Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 I love playing Micro Cuts. Way easier than both Hysteria and SS for me. Goes to show how it varies person to person I think one of my strengths in guitar playing is the sort of picking movement you see in Micro Cuts verse, TOADA and so on Tapping I completely fail at Yeah it is strange. No other song really troubles me apart from that pesky Micro Cuts intro, maybe I should just sit down one day and spend a few hours perfecting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opie Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 I also struggle to get the Micro Cuts intro sound good. It´s not technically difficult, but my rather large hands/fingers make it a bit too crowdy up there on the fretboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grabacr 31770 Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 I love playing Micro Cuts. Way easier than both Hysteria and SS for me. Goes to show how it varies person to person I think one of my strengths in guitar playing is the sort of picking movement you see in Micro Cuts verse, TOADA and so on Tapping I completely fail at Exact opposite, I find picking like that really hard, maybe I just need to practice it for a bit. It's sort of got to the stage where my playing is limited more by my picking hand than the fretting one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaEBoy Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 I used to have problems with Plug in Baby, but then got there in the end. Hysteria, found that easy, as it's not too quick. I'm still having problems with Stockholm Syndrome. But only the riff in it, not the verse/chorus/solo, which seems kinda odd... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Agitated can be quite difficult on the verses and pre-outro simply because of the speed that it's played. The Invincible solo though, it has to be said, is probably the hardest piece by Muse in my opinion. Remembering where the next tapping position is as well as being able to make the stretches whilst having to keep the timing of the whammy octaves right all at the same time just makes my brain go blank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillyracer Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 I remember trying to do that New Born live solo the first time, short circuited my brain. Can't play Screenager at all. Also that one stupid chord in Hyper Music's Chorus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will_ Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Ashamed in Drop D is hard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 I remember trying to do that New Born live solo the first time, short circuited my brain. Can't play Screenager at all. Also that one stupid chord in Hyper Music's Chorus. I can't play Screenager, specifically the pre chorus bit. Physically cannot play the tabs I've seen of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaking Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 I love playing Micro Cuts. Way easier than both Hysteria and SS for me. Goes to show how it varies person to person I think one of my strengths in guitar playing is the sort of picking movement you see in Micro Cuts verse, TOADA and so on Tapping I completely fail at THis is exactly like me. Micro Cuts, TOADA, CE Interlude and Chorus I love playing and can do really well but Live New Born Solo and the Invincible solo are just garbage for me. I can't tap to save my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillyracer Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 I can't play Screenager, specifically the pre chorus bit. Physically cannot play the tabs I've seen of it Yep, same here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben93 Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 I find Dead Star near impossible through the verses picking every note twice like how it's recorded. Its difficult enough constantly picking notes at that speed anyway but changing string every other note just gets ridiculous... I'm not even sure if Matt played it like that or if there's some clever use of delay or something similar going on, never thought about it much to be honest and difficult to tell from the early live videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 I find Dead Star near impossible through the verses picking every note twice like how it's recorded. Its difficult enough constantly picking notes at that speed anyway but changing string every other note just gets ridiculous... I'm not even sure if Matt played it like that or if there's some clever use of delay or something similar going on, never thought about it much to be honest and difficult to tell from the early live videos It's a delay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 I'm afraid to even try it without delay. And yes it's delay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben93 Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 yeah i kind of assumed it must be...but i dont have delay and no harm in trying it. I can get the speed to start with but no way can i keep it for a whole verse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 yeah i kind of assumed it must be...but i dont have delay and no harm in trying it. I can get the speed to start with but no way can i keep it for a whole verse Well until then if you're just going for fun you can just hit each note once like the earlier versions of the song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. ORANGE Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Dead star - thats delay and it sounds killer. One of my favourite Muse rythm guitar parts... I don't find any Muse song too difficult on either piano or guitar (music is my life ) but some are particularly hard playing and singing along. You lot mentioned Micro cuts - easy guitar but hard as hell getting it right on time and clean while singing it - I guess it's also me - I don't play much acoustic and I think playing acoustic guitar makes those arpeggiated parts easier. Same goes for TotDA, SMBH, Unnatural Selection (took me two hours synchronising), the outro of Knights od Cydonia (different rythm on guitar and on vocals) but the biggest pain in the ar*e for me is Hyper Music chorus...It's really hard not to watch your fingers (which makes your vocals bad, let alone your stage performance). I really admire Matt on this one, he's just amazing ! But the biggest Muse challenge for me was those Rhodes piano parts in verses and chorus of Butterflies and Hurricanes (those on the record - that paradiddle stuff) together with vocals. It's just so distracting ! But anyway it's my favourite song so...what the hell ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will_ Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Dead star - thats delay and it sounds killer. One of my favourite Muse rythm guitar parts... I don't find any Muse song too difficult on either piano or guitar (music is my life ) but some are particularly hard playing and singing along. You lot mentioned Micro cuts - easy guitar but hard as hell getting it right on time and clean while singing it - I guess it's also me - I don't play much acoustic and I think playing acoustic guitar makes those arpeggiated parts easier. Same goes for TotDA, SMBH, Unnatural Selection (took me two hours synchronising), the outro of Knights od Cydonia (different rythm on guitar and on vocals) but the biggest pain in the ar*e for me is Hyper Music chorus...It's really hard not to watch your fingers (which makes your vocals bad, let alone your stage performance). I really admire Matt on this one, he's just amazing ! But the biggest Muse challenge for me was those Rhodes piano parts in verses and chorus of Butterflies and Hurricanes (those on the record - that paradiddle stuff) together with vocals. It's just so distracting ! But anyway it's my favourite song so...what the hell ! I'd like to hear you cover some stuff... seeing as a couple of things you point out are piss easy, the HM chorus and the Dead Star verse, which isn't even guitar (I don't think) in the studio recording. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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