Cyndris Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 but why do you need depth? why cant a song just be for enjoyment? twist and shout doesnt have any depth and if it had depth it would make it a worse song Oh, and isn't Twist and Shout about dancing? Hardly a theme requiring depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musekiddo Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Has anyone mentioned this sounding like Amplifier? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alibros Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 but why do you need depth? why cant a song just be for enjoyment? twist and shout doesnt have any depth and if it had depth it would make it a worse song because when you label your album with a rather complicated concept, some level of depth is the least you should offer. why is this so hard for some people to understand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonisdead Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 because when you label your album with a rather complicated concept, some level of depth is the least you should offer. why is this so hard for some people to understand? That feel when, like, that's just like your opinion man. Drones killing people/being controlled isn't that complicated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn. Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Yeah, hot chicks are using flying machines to kill random dudes, and cloaked men use brainwashed people instead. Is not a hard concept, and is dark enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alibros Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 That feel when, like, that's just like your opinion man. Drones killing people/being controlled isn't that complicated It is very much so. It's not just about some semi automated machines killing people. It's about the state of not being in charge and loosing control over your own destiny. It's about the loneliness associated with this state and the love/hate paradox that both initiates it and is caused by it. I can clearly see the intention of multilayered meanings and feelings which is what makes me really sad as I really like the idea and intention behind this 'narrative'. But unfortunately unimaginative and cliche lyrics have ruined it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonisdead Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Yeah, hot chicks are using flying machines to kill random dudes, and cloaked men use brainwashed people instead. Is not a hard concept, and is dark enough. Now that you mention chicks, the official lyrics say there's a "babe" in this song that isn't really there. At least not sung by Matt. Really makes it seem like "a certain someone" is the handler/oppressor throughout the entire narrative... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn. Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 It is very much so. It's not just about some semi automated machines killing people. It's about the state of not being in charge and loosing control over your own destiny. It's about the loneliness associated with this state and the love/hate paradox that both initiates it and is caused by it. I can clearly see the intention of multilayered meanings and feelings which is what makes me really sad as I really like the idea and intention behind this 'narrative'. But unfortunately unimaginative and cliche lyrics have ruined it. What i just said Yeah, hot chicks are using flying machines to kill random dudes, and cloaked men use brainwashed people instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 The Globalist is one song where I find Matt really digs further into the subject. It's not profound writing, but it covers the motives and conflicts of the human side of it all. All the lyrics at that level (at the least) could have made for something closer to the actual game changer we joked about. I hold what I said back at Psycho's release that it's more disappointing when it's a topic that I care about and find more important, rather than something ridiculous like The 2nd Law's premise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumpypotato Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Getting quite an Exo-Politics vibe from this one, and not in a bad way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alibros Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 The Globalist is one song where I find Matt really digs further into the subject. It's not profound writing, but it covers the motives and conflicts of the human side of it all. All the lyrics at that level (at the least) could have made for something closer to the actual game changer we joked about. I hold what I said back at Psycho's release that it's more disappointing when it's a topic that I care about and find more important, rather than something ridiculous like The 2nd Law's premise. thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 I'll add I've enjoyed concept albums that I don't think delivered their concept as strongly as I had hoped. There's still plenty of other aspects to judge an entire album from, but whatever grows or fades I never get un-disappointed at an album I feel could have delivered more lyrically when centered around a topic. There's a difference when the words are supposed to actually have meaning rather than being a regular album with unconnected songs, or something like Kid A where they're literally pulled out at random. More related to the thread though, and I guess related to that last paragraph, I like this song. I've been getting into this kind of really simple and direct songwriting. This may not be the best example, but it touches on the energy enough. It's also generic enough I can remove it lyrically from the album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LewisF Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 This is one of my favourites from the album, in [JFK] I love the guitar scratches and the synth solo. In Defector, I love the riff and the vocal melody, not to mention the solo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topo_musero Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 It's a fun song to sing. I'd love it to hear it live! Also, I see it potential as a single, I think it will work better than Revolt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arildsundby Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Now it's starting to grow on me, after not really liking it the first couple of times. It's actually a pretty cool song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobiiiaaas Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Actually digging this a lot now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Museic Syndrome Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 I can't stand it. It's one of the most annoying Muse songs ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Green One Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 It's definitely not the most complicated song on th album, but one of my faves. Sounds like a mix of early Muse and the best bits of The Resistance (that's a great thing for me). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatchHellBlues Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Among my best Muse songs ever! It's a fucking great song, huge riff and breathtaking solo! Lyrics may be cheesy but are really uplifting and positive, what more could you ask for really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archer29 Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 This is the song that has grown on me the most. At first I disliked it but now it's quite good and will be even better live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplytom Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 How many times does Matt say "free", "Defector" and "SOCIETY"? I've kind of lost count. They lyrics are utter crap, but they are catchy and Defector will definitely be fun live in a Panic Station sort of way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Pigeon Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Does anybody else feel really happy whenever the solo/s kick in? It's the most uplifting thing they've ever done I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furygirl Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Has anyone mentioned this sounding like Amplifier? I haven't seen anyone mention it. I'm not sure I hear it, but maybe subconsciously that's why I like this song! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordo21 Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Does anybody else feel really happy whenever the solo/s kick in? It's the most uplifting thing they've ever done I think Aye, I can picture Ed Snowden or any whistle blower with this song. Finally releasing documents about NSA/ or Government abusers to the public. Relief, and at ease with his/her conscience. Think the solo captures that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen Erased 01 Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Aye, I can picture Ed Snowden or any whistle blower with this song. Finally releasing documents about NSA/ or Government abusers to the public. Relief, and at ease with his/her conscience. Think the solo captures that. what, and you didn't feel that when you listened to uprisng? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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