Destroya Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Stadiums are a different story though, obvs. Jack White's the only person I've seen flogging vinyl as well. True, only place I remember seeing official merch being sold outside was at the Emirates, all other things nope (unless you count inside festival sites). Remember seeing lots of people selling fake stuff outside Marilyn Manson, the Cure and BFMV gigs. Funnily enough most of their stuff were baseball tops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JessicaSarahS Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Yeah, if they're not behind a table with venue security nearby, then they're usually selling fake merch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacjens Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Question! I've found this, is Pyscho from the Roskilde Festival https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fKVAPbST6s The amazing of the video is how has 50fps. I know is from a webcast, so... it was originally broadcasted in 50fps or was upscaled for YouTube? and in case it was originally in 50fps can the whole show be founded in that quality? Ehm, don't know anything about frames per second and all that. But all I can say is that the show was streamed live on Danish national television at a "normal" channel and its equivalent HD channel. It was also streamed live on the channel's internet page where you can choose the quality to be between 364, 928 and 1228 kbit/s. Don't know if that helps you. I've searched for the show through the archive on the internet page but with no luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forevermusic Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Yeah, if they're not behind a table with venue security nearby, then they're usually selling fake merch. I usually find if they're on a towel by the side of the road its fakes. Particularly bizarre was Foo Fighters in Milton Keynes, as post-gig traffic management means a road next to the venue was shut, and there were several vendors in the middle of this closed road. Who also got arrested for their troubles. Better I guess than Interpol in 2010, where the fake merch was the only merch I saw at the whole gig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyo2004 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Question! I've found this, is Pyscho from the Roskilde Festival https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fKVAPbST6s The amazing of the video is how has 50fps. I know is from a webcast, so... it was originally broadcasted in 50fps or was upscaled for YouTube? and in case it was originally in 50fps can the whole show be founded in that quality? Originally broadcasted in 50fps as is the norm with European broadcasts for live events (FYI, America broadcasts in 60fps, in fact almost current high end smartphone can record 720p@60fps/120fps... the difference it's something it dates back to PAL vs. NTSC)... And... Officially, nope (that's the only muse video released by the official account of the event)... and musebootlegs only shows a recording but it's 25fps... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn. Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 And... Officially, nope (that's the only muse video released by the official account of the event)... and musebootlegs only shows a recording but it's 25fps... Too bad. Well that's exactly what i wanted to know, thanks for the answer. That post derivated into a setlist talk, who could have imagined? Thanks for the answer too ChampenJacob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corkscrewed Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 So I went ahead and tracked the North America average setlist, and aside from a few deviations of where exactly Reapers / Dead Inside / Resistance and occasionally Bliss / Plug in Baby have gone, it's basically been like this: [Drones] 1. Psycho 2. Dead Inside 3. Interlude 4. Hysteria 5. Plug in Baby / Map of the Problematique / Bliss / Citizen Erased 6. The 2nd Law: Isolated System 7. The Handler 8. Resistance 9. Supermassive Black Hole 10. Prelude 11. Starlight 12. United States of Eurasia / Feeling Good / Apocalypse Please 13. Munich Jam 14. Madness 15. Undisclosed Desires [JFK] 16. Revolt / Reapers 17. Time Is Running Out 18. Uprising 19. The Globalist [Drones reprise] 20. Mercy 21. Knights of Cydonia Bolded songs being "full length" songs. But that's been our rotation. Three rotation slots max, but never more than two changed between any two adjacent nights. Yeesh. It's a bit depressing to stare at this in writing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samz2 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Almost equally depressing when at the show. This was my third time seeing Muse: a T2L arena gig and Webster Hall being the other two. Today I saw zero new songs that weren't from Drones. They can, and should be doing better. So many confusing decisions both setlist and stage wise. The show is by no means bad, but is far less than the sum of its parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunge Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 So many confusing decisions both setlist and stage wise. The show is by no means bad, but is far less than the sum of its parts. I think this very succinctly sums up how I feel about the Drones tour so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Museman8989 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 I think this very succinctly sums up how I feel about the Drones tour so far. i agree as well. the 2nd law tour did a very solid job of varying things up. there was usually 4 songs a night that rotated in and out and you got a solid array of their catalog. now with Map in for PiB we have no songs pre-absolution and that to me is inexcusable. as its been stated the show is by no means bad, but it could so easily be so much better. i think (for americans at least) this will go down as by far the most frustrating tour they've ever done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Pretty sure I've said this before but I'll say it again: lack of rotation wouldn't be a problem if they were playing enough songs in the first place. 20 songs should really be the bare minimum at this point, with 23/24 ideally being the standard. With that many songs they could easily please everyone (hell, it'd be hard not to), as they showed already on the Unsustainable Tour. Unfortunately, the more they play these short-ass 17 song sets, the more people start to forget just how short that is. Even in comparison to past Muse tours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Just a strong set is fine. They've done shorter sets at festivals last tour (and this tour too I guess) that were were strong enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanp16 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 as they showed already on the Unsustainable Tour. Unless you were at one of the gigs they utterly shafted; i.e. the German ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forevermusic Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Unless you were at one of the gigs they utterly shafted; i.e. the German ones. Berlin Waldbuhne wasn't too bad tbf. Loreley got shafted though, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 So the whole using Drones in a live show with music has already been outdone, by Intel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Point is shafted sets last tour were outliers and now they're the norm. Like, peole were actually surprised last tour when something went properly bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forevermusic Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 I was idly parusing reviews and came across this line in the Las Vegas Sun's review of Saturday's gig: Muse is heartthrob Matthew Bellamy (vocals, guitar, keyboard, keytar, piano, lyrics) who qualifies as dreamy not only because he’s a frontman with soaring, emotive vocals, but also because he was engaged to actress Kate Hudson for a spell; hunky Christopher Wolstenholme (bass, backing vocals, keyboard, guitar); and Dominic Howard (percussion, synthesizer). An unidentified keyboardist supported Muse on Saturday night and certainly deserves a salute. Even when the board was rigging the NME Sexiest Male poll in his favour, I could never remember someone calling Matt "hearthrob", but I think I'm more amused they just go ".. and Dom". In case you're game for their view, the rest of it (spoiler alert, they liked it) lurks here: http://lasvegassun.com/vegasdeluxe/2016/jan/12/review-muse-drones-spectacle-spectacular-mandalay-/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 That can't be real... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forevermusic Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 I didn't think it was real at first. No word yet as to whether or not the Detroit set-up is going as planned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 The Detroit thing must be a bit nerve-wracking. They had days before Chicago, and still apparently didn't bother getting the drones going for some reason. I do feel a bit bad for them; they'd talked about wanting flying shit at the gigs for years and years, and it's not going well. I mean, I feel bad for the people going to the gigs more, but still... The idea that being "dreamy" is apparently sexually transmitted is still making me want to vomit a bit. And poor Dom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JessicaSarahS Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 I was idly parusing reviews and came across this line in the Las Vegas Sun's review of Saturday's gig: Even when the board was rigging the NME Sexiest Male poll in his favour, I could never remember someone calling Matt "hearthrob", but I think I'm more amused they just go ".. and Dom". In case you're game for their view, the rest of it (spoiler alert, they liked it) lurks here: http://lasvegassun.com/vegasdeluxe/2016/jan/12/review-muse-drones-spectacle-spectacular-mandalay-/ Did someone from PMT/PCT write that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel_Tufnel Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 (edited) Just returned home from the Detroit gig. Strangely, I have the same hollow feeling about this concert that I had after seeing the latest James Bond film, Spectre. I've been a Bond fan forever. I had really been hoping that Spectre would be a great movie based on some of the reviews and a promising story but it just didn't do it for me at all. As far as Muse is concerned, the malfunctioning Dil-Drone was a microcosm of the whole concert. An interesting concept that just couldn't get off the ground. A few points that occurred to me during and after the show (some certainly echoing others' prior remarks).. * The setlist was short enough already. Dropping the piano song and replacing it with...well, nothing was pretty low. Would it have been so hard to spend 4 minutes tossing off a quick Plug In Baby? Or Bliss? Or Revolt? * Playing Drones twice on prerecorded audio was enough to give a crackhead with ADHD a case of narcolepsy. Ditto for the intro to The Globalist - most of the people around me were just talking over it. Ditto again for the Starlight/Madness/UD section after the show had actually built up a little head of steam with Handler/Resistance/SMBH. If Muse wants a more energetic crowd, why are they dosing them with musical Benadryl? * No songs from Showbiz (a given), no songs from Origin (pathetic), only 2 songs from Absolution (a bit weak). Unfortunately, I can almost see the band's perspective on this one because the crowd responded best to the songs from The Resistance. The guy behind me asked what that "Sedona" song was called that they played at the end. And I felt compelled to correct a girl who told her friend that Madness was only released as a single and was not on any of their albums. * The visuals on the screens were mostly cool although I couldn't get down with UD played in the dark with the dumb red glasses. The drones on the other hand mostly bombed. A couple never took off at all. A few of them crashed down during SMBH. Only two were still semi-functioning by the end of the show. The Dil-Drone crash-landed in the lower bowl and had to be carried out. Maybe they can feed it some Viagra before the Toronto show. * I thought that Matt's vocals were good all night, especially during the demanding latter parts of Dead Inside, Handler and Madness. Too bad that my half of the arena was staring at his back as he sang each of those parts. The 360 thing seemed like an interesting idea but it mostly resulted in Matt and Chris pacing back and forth all night trying to hit their mic cues. * With all that said, the biggest problem for me was that the whole show was pretty much by the numbers with no spontaneity. The setlist is predictable enough from show to show but the songs themselves never change from tour to tour. Does Knights still need the harmonica intro? Can't Matt come up with some new guitar lead-ups to TIRO and SMBH? Do we still need to do the Starlight hand clap? If an occasional rarity is too much to ask, how about changing up the regulars? How about an acoustic version of something or a guitar song done on the piano? The music was simply mechanical and proficient without ever being very uplifting. The show was not all bad. I thought that MotP, Handler and Reapers were excellent. Uprising, SMBH, KoC all sounded great and picked the crowd up nicely. The screen presentation was well done. The drones were pretty cool as well when they actually worked. The X Ambassadors did a fine job as opening act. I'm not sorry that I went to the show but I'm also not sorry that I didn't make plans to travel for multiple shows on this tour. For way too many reasons, once was enough. Edited January 15, 2016 by Nigel_Tufnel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen Erased 01 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 VERY glad I didn't bother paying such a high price for a ticket now, what an utter swizz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alibros Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 so have the reapers finally made it to the stage? any photos of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessebasi Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 so have the reapers finally made it to the stage? any photos of them? Check around the 5 minute mark: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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