jonisdead Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 First time I've heard Munich Jam since...Download, I think? Used to actually quite like the D+B jams but, sweet Jesus, I never thought they could be as boring as that. Getting bored during these jams is unfathomable. What do you expect? Osaka Jam or some shit? Christ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Getting bored during these jams is unfathomable. What do you expect? Osaka Jam or some shit? ChristUhm...you think it's unfathomable to expect something to be of the same quality of something else by the same band? If the jams aren't good enough to keep people interested, they obviously shouldn't be played, simple. I don't know why lowered expectations would make anyone less bored. It's a boring jam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicklord Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 I think Munich Jam is awesome, I really don't know why am I the only one that thinks that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 I liked the idea of the piano-based one on the last tour. Infact everything about the T2L arena tour shows how bad the Drones one is, even if Drones is a better album Monty Jam was great <3 Atmospheric, moody and didn't out-stay it's welcome (in terms of length, wouldn't have minded at all if it stuck around for this tour). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forevermusic Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 I think Munich Jam is awesome, I really don't know why am I the only one that thinks that I like MJ (moreso than Revolt and Aftermath at least). I also thought Monty Jam wasn't as good as Nishe for that sort of thing. But then clearly I come from a different place opinion wise on a lot of subjects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halo eighteen Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 I think Munich Jam is fine. Certainly more upbeat than the Nishe jam from 2010. And I don't even really remember the jam from T2L arena tour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander DeLarge Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Looks like the average Resistance tour set. You say you that, but I'd do anything for Sacramento 2010 (formerly known as the worst Muse gig ever) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 I've never "got" the jams; they're the same thing every time, not spontaneous or anything, and yeah, just never enjoyed them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alesi08 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 I think Munich Jam is fine. Certainly more upbeat than the Nishe jam from 2010. And I don't even really remember the jam from T2L arena tour. Nishe was niced at Glastonbury when they used it as a transition between CE and USOE haven't heard any other versions of it. And Monty was only really used when Matts piano was on the lift? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonisdead Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Uhm...you think it's unfathomable to expect something to be of the same quality of something else by the same band? If the jams aren't good enough to keep people interested, they obviously shouldn't be played, simple. I don't know why lowered expectations would make anyone less bored. It's a boring jam. Clearly it isn't boring to the majority so that idea goes out the window. What I don't understand is how Muse fans in 2015 are bored by a jam that's heavier than 90% of the setlist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumpypotato Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1nQSDMzw6E As far as I know they've been using the faster ending for the last few gigs. I don't see why they don't incorporate these kind of riffs into their albums more. Even though this one is kinda dull as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonisdead Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 I don't see why they don't incorporate these kind of riffs into their albums more. Even though this one is kinda dull as it is. It's probably because Matt writes all of the music most of the time, he wrote the entirety of Drones according to Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumpypotato Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Clearly it isn't boring to the majority so that idea goes out the window. What I don't understand is how Muse fans in 2015 are bored by a jam that's heavier than 90% of the setlist. Is it clear? It's not really all that heavy though. But whatever, heavy isn't what makes something interesting. Why do you think so many people prefer nishe or Monty jam to this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonisdead Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Is it clear? It's not really all that heavy though. But whatever, heavy isn't what makes something interesting. Why do you think so many people prefer nishe or Monty jam to this? As far as this tour goes, it seems like everything is calculated for effect so I'd wager if they haven't tossed out jams from their setlists then they assume the fans enjoy them. Monty jam has always felt very insubstantial compared to Nishe in my opinion, I enjoy both but I prefer feeding off of the energy of Chris and Dom actually rocking out rather than slow grooving. I'd also say it is pretty heavy, again especially when juxtaposed by a bunch of pop songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumpypotato Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 As far as this tour goes, it seems like everything is calculated for effect so I'd wager if they haven't tossed out jams from their setlists then they assume the fans enjoy them. Monty jam has always felt very insubstantial compared to Nishe in my opinion, I enjoy both but I prefer feeding off of the energy of Chris and Dom actually rocking out rather than slow grooving. I'd also say it is pretty heavy, again especially when juxtaposed by a bunch of pop songs. If they were doing that they would've thrown out half their setlist by now. What energy? What rocking out? They just stand there and play these fairly uninspired riffs. I'd rather hear them rock out during an actual song. This tour has been really depressing to watch so far. I'm hoping that it's improved by the time they get to Australia, but even if it has that doesn't excuse all the people who've gotten shafted. Admittedly this isn't entirely on them; as pointed out, the crowds aren't great, but Muse could at least give them something more to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Clearly it isn't boring to the majority so that idea goes out the window. What I don't understand is how Muse fans in 2015 are bored by a jam that's heavier than 90% of the setlist. As far as this tour goes, it seems like everything is calculated for effect so I'd wager if they haven't tossed out jams from their setlists then they assume the fans enjoy them. Monty jam has always felt very insubstantial compared to Nishe in my opinion, I enjoy both but I prefer feeding off of the energy of Chris and Dom actually rocking out rather than slow grooving. I'd also say it is pretty heavy, again especially when juxtaposed by a bunch of pop songs. Heavy =/= exciting though, especially when it feels like Chris has been playing the same riff/scale for 7-8 years or whatever it is. Not that I'd even say it was particularly heavy in comparison to the older ones when I saw it. There isn't really any energy either, it's just Chris standing with his back to the audience and Dom doing exactly what he does for pretty much the entire gig. Plus, as someone else said, there should be plenty of time during actual songs or even post-song riffs to feed off the band 'rocking out'. Monty and Nishe worked so well 'cause they were surprising and interesting changes of pace imo. They were perfect as short (seriously, they were, what, a minute long at tops?) interludes bridging the gaps between sections of the set, which is all the jams should be imo. If they wanted to change that up, I'd rather they used instrumentals of their own songs like Minimum, Forced In, The Gallery (could give Matt something actually interesting to do with his MIDI pad again) or Con-Science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JessicaSarahS Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Closed til the next gig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JessicaSarahS Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Oops. Gig tonight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Psycho Dead Hysteria Plug Isolated Handler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 So, basically we know the entire set, and can go to bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radicrane Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Pretty much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JessicaSarahS Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Apocalypse Please. :'( Wish I was there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 That would have been a nice gift to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JessicaSarahS Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Reapers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Little Animal Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 They've improved the set a bit to make up for rescheduling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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