FabriPav Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 You know something's up when I agree with Peter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henners Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 can someone tell me WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK is going on in this song? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonisdead Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 You know something's up when I agree with Peter. updog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topo_musero Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 yes, I realize there's supposed to be a concept in there somewhere. I'm a huge fan of prog, some of my favorite albums are concept albums. But with muse doing it... it's just fail. SO MUCH fail. That's a shame! I'm really digging this album, although I didn't like the second half at first. Now I think it's solid (even Revolt :LOL:). When I first heard T2L, I liked it, but each time I listened to it, I disliked it more. With Drones, each time I listen to it, I like it more. But, hey, if you don't like it there's a lot of great bands out there which are releasing amazing records too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonisdead Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 icing on the shit smeared cake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HereComeTheDrones Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 For those wondering about the final orchestral part of the song - Its Enigma Variations by Elgar. (Variation 9, Nimrod) Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
googoogee Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 updog Is it me or does it smell like updog in here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalvaBlanco Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 I love the final third, even though it's an Elgar rip-off (or arrangement, if you will). (That's why I don't get the complaints of the final third being "bland" - it's based on a classical masterpiece ferchrissake! That melody is so distinctive and beautiful, but people are allergic to anything that sounds even remotely like Explorers, I guess). Some great vocal work by Matt in those final three minutes, and amazing bass by Chris, as always. (it reinforces me in my belief that Chris is equally indispensable to Muse's sound as Matt. Sorry, Dom). I can understand why people would hate the transition from the heavy part to the piano ballad; it does sound awkward at first listen. But the more I listen to it, the more I like it. I'm beginning to really dig that sustaining guitar note - it's sort of like a "fade to white" where the world draws its final breath. The guitar solo before it is great, it sounds frantic, desperate and yes, way too short - like it wants to be heard before everything dies. I dunno, I'm really on board with the concept of this song, and even though it has legitimate problems in its execution (having to rip off both Morricone and Elgar is indeed unfortunate), I'm really enjoying it. Not nearly as good as Exogenesis, but much better than the closing tracks of The 2nd Law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillyracer Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 Some great vocal work by Matt in those final three minutes, and amazing bass by Chris, as always. (it reinforces me in my belief that Chris is equally indispensable to Muse's sound as Matt. Sorry, Dom). I can understand why people would hate the transition from the heavy part to the piano ballad; it does sound awkward at first listen. But the more I listen to it, the more I like it. I'm beginning to really dig that sustaining guitar note - it's sort of like a "fade to white" where the world draws its final breath. The guitar solo before it is great, it sounds frantic, desperate and yes, way too short - like it wants to be heard before everything dies. That is exactly what it is, and I love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam_jk Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 I love the final third, even though it's an Elgar rip-off (or arrangement, if you will). (That's why I don't get the complaints of the final third being "bland" - it's based on a classical masterpiece ferchrissake! That melody is so distinctive and beautiful, but people are allergic to anything that sounds even remotely like Explorers, I guess). I agree! I keep mentioning Nimrod and no one else seems to notice until now. Loads of USoE comparison but it's a blatant arrangement / homage to Elgar. But Matt has done a beautiful melodic arrangement of it. Just like when you hear snippets of Rachmaninov in OoS but multiplied by 10. He follows the chords and melody but alters it enough to create something new and amazing. The final third of Globalist is great. And the tremolo riff does sound out of time to me when it comes in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen_2 Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 (edited) Loving this more every listen. And blatant homage? It *is* Nimrod and credited as such - probably the first time Elgar has been listed as the co-writer of a rock song! And when you thinkof the ways that music often gets used on TV programmes and so-on - the "This is Our England" vibe it's normally used fir, I think it fits beautifully into the song, especially with the lyrics over it. Edited June 6, 2015 by Citizen Crazed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DyingAtheist98 Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 Hidden Lyrics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFA7F3aIwIQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter. Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 I like all three parts on their own, but they have nothing that connects them AT ALL, it's still a disjointed mess... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JessicaSarahS Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 I like all three parts on their own, but they have nothing that connects them AT ALL, it's still a disjointed mess... Yeah, I'm starting to enjoy the end a lot more, but it still doesn't work on the song for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urgamanix Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 If someone could edit that middle part for me... - Take the countdown off the 1st part and put it on the 2nd part (before the amazing bit) - Triple the length of the amazing bit - Make the transition between the amazing bit and the final section suck less That would be allright with me and you could have my babies anytime. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdrunner95 Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 This song grew on me so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bohemian-Cygnus-Running-Out Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 The whistling at the start reminds me a lot of Billy Joel's "The Stranger." But I love this song!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEWBORNchild Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 I'm currently working on a version that should hopefully make the middle section seem more "complete" It will push the song over 10 for sure though. Will let you know when its done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urgamanix Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 I'm currently working on a version that should hopefully make the middle section seem more "complete" It will push the song over 10 for sure though. Will let you know when its done. Sounds great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Little Animal Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 So Matt wanted to see if he could write a song as good as Citizen Erased again. The fact that he had the borrow huge chunks from other composers alone proved that he failed in his quest. It's such an artificial unnatural sounding Frankenstein monster of a song, some decent ideas hastily stapled together. If this thing becomes a regular one at concerts it may just end up being the entire encore. I hope it doesn't replace KoC though, but they definitely should drop the MWaH bit to not have Morricone overkill. End of thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillyracer Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Ugh, I wish he would've used a synthpad so I didn't have to read l'Arena comparisons because it has whistling in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunge Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 I'll tell you what would have improved this song x6,298,017 times - if they had replaced the whistling with pretty much any instrument. Trumpets would have been AMAZING. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Ugh, I wish he would've used a synthpad so I didn't have to read l'Arena comparisons because it has whistling in it. Yeah because that's the only reason there are comparisons - because he's whistling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 I'll tell you what would have improved this song x6,298,017 times - if they had replaced the whistling with pretty much any instrument. Trumpets would have been AMAZING. Horn section in a slower piece like the intro would be lovely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillyracer Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Yeah because that's the only reason there are comparisons - because he's whistling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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