Riveon Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 I like this a lot. It feels like new territory in some ways, and the guitar work + lyrics + different timing really works for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dramatic Hammer Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 '...do us all a favour', I find a bit rich (lolpun) coming from a band of millionaires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillyracer Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 '...do us all a favour', I find a bit rich (lolpun) coming from a band of millionaires. The people he's 'complaining' about in the song are people who use other peoples money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dramatic Hammer Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 The people he's 'complaining' about in the song are people who use other peoples money. My point is that they have done extremely well out of capitalism - they are not 'us'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverickmak Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 Spoils of war? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareeh Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 Hate it when ignorant folk think talented rich people can't stand up for "middle" or "lower" class folk. Bullshit. There's a difference between a musician and Paris Hilton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangeseas Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 Hate it when ignorant folk think talented rich people can't stand up for "middle" or "lower" class folk. Bullshit. Y so upset? I think he just trolls a little bit. Matt just doesn't care, if he is rich or not. His lyrics are about topics he's interested in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macgivera Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 My point is that they have done extremely well out of capitalism - they are not 'us'. Matt had written Ruled by Secrecy, which is about the man who returns to wife with blood on his hands. Does it mean that Matt killed someone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dramatic Hammer Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 Hate it when ignorant folk think talented rich people can't stand up for "middle" or "lower" class folk. Bullshit. There's a difference between a musician and Paris Hilton I hate it when stupid people with the reading comprehension of a fence misconstrue what I say. a) Talent has nothing to do with it b) Class has nothing to do with it I simply find it a bit rich that an A-list millionaire musician who leads a life vastly different to the norm, refers to himself and listeners as 'us', specifically in this context, which is financial. It is unlikely the banking crisis has affected him/Muse at all. As a loose parallel, imagine a politician singing Uprising/KoC or the Pope singing Megalomania. It's a lyrical theme he uses all the time, using 'us' to include the listener and create a sense of belonging to something bigger. I do like the song though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dramatic Hammer Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 Matt had written Ruled by Secrecy, which is about the man who returns to wife with blood on his hands. Does it mean that Matt killed someone? Err no, he's telling a story to make a point. If it was from a first person perspective, you might have something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dramatic Hammer Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 Y so upset? I think he just trolls a little bit. Matt just doesn't care, if he is rich or not. His lyrics are about topics he's interested in. Expressing an opinion is hardly trolling. Assuming that's the case (which you have no way of knowing), there are other ways to impart the same message. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 "Kill yourself, come on and do everyone except me a favour" wouldn't have sounded that good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dramatic Hammer Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 "Kill yourself, come on and do everyone except me a favour" wouldn't have sounded that good Could have just replaced 'us all' with 'yourself' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althea Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 My point is that they have done extremely well out of capitalism - they are not 'us'. I get where you're coming from on this. I feel their street cred is a bit diminished now when singing on certain themes.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangeseas Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 Expressing an opinion is hardly trolling. Sorry. I just didn't see you much in Main Muse. I was unsure, so I wrote "a bit" Could have just replaced 'us all' with 'yourself' "Us all" is a stronger statement than "yourself". I guess, it represents the opinion of the majority of people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JessicaSarahS Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 I get where you're coming from on this. I feel their street cred is a bit diminished now when singing on certain themes.. I agree as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dramatic Hammer Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 Sorry. I just didn't see you much in Main Muse. I was unsure, so I wrote "a bit" "Us all" is a stronger statement than "yourself". I guess, it represents the opinion of the majority of people. Well there's been nothing muse-related to talk about since the last album! I do not care about their trousers, for example. It's more inclusive/rousing but less withering/dismissive, I think it's about level in strength but that's my opinion. Anyway, I still think he could have written a song about the financial crisis without getting all us/we/TEAM MUSE about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bellamylookalike Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 I keep seeing people say about a Paranoid Android comparison to this song in various places. I don't see it :s Gonna listen to both now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meep Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 It has an amnesiac-y vibe, definitely not PA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racket Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 I keep thinking of this when Animals comes on. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7R7q1lSZfs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesseract Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 Yes Matt shouldn't speak out against corrupt rich people that screw over eveone else, guess that means he isn't allowed to speak out against hunger in Africa because he has plenty of food to eat. Give me a break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 I've never taken Matt completely serious about these things. Especially back during his conspiracy phase it was pretty obvious he wasn't fully behind what he was talking about, but I was fine with that. Still, even though he has certainly benefited from capitalism it doesn't mean he can't be against the ones who exemplify the worst of it. They can be a bit corporate about their decisions as a big band but no where near the level of corruption and greed mentioned in Animals. There's plenty of rich people who feel the same way too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Born Lee Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 I'm another one who cannot understand the Radiohead comparisons with this song. I just can't see Radiohead when the bass is so strong, the vocals so plummy and the guitar so explicitly bluesy. To me this is just an excellent Absolution-era Muse track with little hints of their so underrated bluesy work like Darkshines and Hoodoo. Also, I think the ending is perfect. Far more effective than some big riff for me. There's an element of class there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zomuse Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 Aghhhhhh the guitar on this is so gorgeous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Shackleford Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 I'm another one who cannot understand the Radiohead comparisons with this song. I just can't see Radiohead when the bass is so strong, the vocals so plummy and the guitar so explicitly bluesy. To me this is just an excellent Absolution-era Muse track with little hints of their so underrated bluesy work like Darkshines and Hoodoo. Also, I think the ending is perfect. Far more effective than some big riff for me. There's an element of class there. For some weird reason, I hear Radiohead more than ever in this song after reading this post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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