Hat Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Yes, in my opinion. I said nothing otherwise. I quite liked Survival, more than USoE. I just assumed that you were trying to defend Muse's use of Queen influences... Personally I don´t want another OoS. (See Unnatural Selection: a good song, but standard OoS sound. Nothing new for Muse.) Most people here don't. Not liking what Muse are currently doing doesn't mean we want them to do what they used to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangeseas Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 I just assumed that you were trying to defend Muse's use of Queen influences... You assumed wrong. I don´t mind Queen influence, as long as the song sounds good to me. Btw I never got into USoE, because it contained too much Queen tribute, but that´s just me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beibi Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 I agree with that - it does sound like they're trying a bit too hard to mimic them. I still like all the Queen-sounding songs they've done, though, but it'd be better if they could put a Musier spin on it than sounding like a copycat act. I've got nothing against them taking influence from other music/bands - that's what practically every artist does - as long as they can bring something a bit fresh to that sound and unique to them as band. I think they achieved that with the dubstep influence in Unsustainable And that's what They've been doing since the beginning (Radiohead, RATM, Rachmaninov...), but yeah, I agree the Queen influences are a bit too obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 You assumed wrong. I don´t mind Queen influence, as long as the song sounds good to me. Btw I never got into USoE, because it contained too much Queen tribute, but that´s just me... I don't understand you at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangeseas Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 I don't understand you at all There is nothing wrong with some Queen influence in Muse songs. Better? I just assumed that you were trying to defend Muse's use of Queen influences... Oh I see. that´s your point... sorry Simon. I just don´t think every choir and vocal harmony in a Muse song is a Queen tribute.(That was my point in my first post.) But I could be wrong... could be wrong, could be wrong. But this was a blatant Queen tribute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
static shadows Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 I wish Muse 2.0 (i.e. post-Absolution) weren't so heavily influenced by two of my least favourite bands ever - Queen and U2 . EDIT: for typo. +1 If OOS Muse was about trying to break musical clichés to create something unique and challenging, then the last few Muse albums have been about trying to compile a variety of safe musical clichés instead. And that makes me a little sad. Even more so when it's Queen and U2 sounds that are being compiled. It's not simply that I want another OOS, I just want something that goes back to that challenging, cliché defying aesthetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcade Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 +1 If OOS Muse was about trying to break musical clichés to create something unique and challenging, then the last few Muse albums have been about trying to compile a variety of safe musical clichés instead. And that makes me a little sad. Even more so when it's Queen and U2 sounds that are being compiled. It's not simply that I want another OOS, I just want something that goes back to that challenging, cliché defying aesthetic. +1 Tastes are purely individual, but i wonder why Queen and U2 are a bigger part of their influences these days. If i wanted to listen to Queen and U2 id go out and buy their albums, but i dont anymore as their stuff sounds all the same. Come back Radiohead all is forgiven! Theres no problem in taking influence from other bands, every band has ultimately plagarised other bands? So okay Queen are a bigger part of their modern day influences, but what happened to RATM, Nirvana, FF, Tom Waits.. Queen were and are synonomous with Stadium rock, Muse love stadium rock now more than performing other venues, and that is where i think their vision for becoming like queen is at. Okay so we dont know how their new tour will go, but surely they would want to create a new sound that is equally awesome in small venues/Arenas/peoples iPods+phones/Stadiums/Radio stations/H-Fi's. A bloody shame i didnt go to the HAARP show at wembley as that was a killer show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niall Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 +1 If OOS Muse was about trying to break musical clichés to create something unique and challenging, then the last few Muse albums have been about trying to compile a variety of safe musical clichés instead. And that makes me a little sad. Even more so when it's Queen and U2 sounds that are being compiled. It's not simply that I want another OOS, I just want something that goes back to that challenging, cliché defying aesthetic. I never really thought about it like that before. Although I wouldn't call their new music safe, but I can understand the angle of OoS and even Absolution being more innovative and the latter albums being more like musical collages. Although some songs like Undisclosed Desires are a bit different. I don't think many rock bands have tried looping string samples over slap bass in the style of a pop song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Rockwell Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 For whoever asked where they are getting their Queen and U2 influences from, I believe they toured South America supporting U2...other than that, I can only guess that they listen to music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buxomflirter Queef Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 They get their queen and u2 influences from listening to queen and u2? Fuck me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furygirl Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 I'm not too fussed who/what Muse sounds like as long as I like the songs. *shrug* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoberBaby Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 I'm not too fussed who/what Muse sounds like as long as I like the songs. *shrug* +1 This is the attitude we need to have nowadays, and as I said before, this direction is probably only temporary. Besides we don't know that T2L will be all U2ish and Queeeny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anxyous Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 +1 This is the attitude we need to have nowadays, and as I said before, this direction is probably only temporary. Besides we don't know that T2L will be all U2ish and Queeeny. Don't tell me what I need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter. Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Muse and Queen are the only two bands at the moment whose music is capable of making me look like:eek::eek: so if Matt draws influence from Queen, I'm 100% alright with that. I love both USoE and Survival, i think they're both awesome songs. And I don't agree that Muse are bad at 'bombastic' rock. IMO that's the thing they excel at.(Apocalypse Please, Take a Bow, Hoodoo etc) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frakkles Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Muse have done Queen better than most bands who have tried to copy Queen. MCR never pulled off Queen like Muse did. Although it should be limited to one song per album (AP, TaB, USoE as mentioned above). I just don't see Madness as IWTBF-like at all because IWTBF is good and Madness is horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dramatic Hammer Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 I think even the elephant in the room has become aware of this and finds it a little weird. Dubstep isn't a "terrible bandwagon". It's a genre of music that's 20 years old and has recently entered into the mainstream and popular artists need not apologise for co opting it, but that's got nothing to do with the not so subtle references to Queen that were fun in USoE and the like but now seem to be occurring a bit too often. Dubstep is just over 10 years old at a push and has been in and influencing the mainstream for 4-5 of them. If muse had started using ideas from it around the time of absolution it would have seemed more credible but not now when Skrillex is held up as the epitome of all things dubstep and has been churning out derivative shit for several years. Ie it is a bit of a bandwagon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HannahG123 Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 I'm not too fussed who/what Muse sounds like as long as I like the songs. *shrug* exactly. Thus, I am very very excited for the new album as I have loved all 3 songs and, as usual, there is no clear 'new direction' just lost of different ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JessicaSarahS Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Dubstep is just over 10 years old at a push and has been in and influencing the mainstream for 4-5 of them. If muse had started using ideas from it around the time of absolution it would have seemed more credible but not now when Skrillex is held up as the epitome of all things dubstep and has been churning out derivative shit for several years. Ie it is a bit of a bandwagon. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anxyous Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 But it's not dubstep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JessicaSarahS Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 But it's not dubstep. But it's influenced by dubstep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anxyous Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 But it's influenced by dubstep. But that's like saying that rock is jazz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dramatic Hammer Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 But it's not dubstep. I probs haven't heard everything out there from the new album but the breakdown in that song with the newsreader/etc is clearly designed to sound like skrillex on guitars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anxyous Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 I probs haven't heard everything out there from the new album but the breakdown in that song with the newsreader/etc is clearly designed to sound like skrillex on guitars. Thank you for elaborating my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaking Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 "New" ? /thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anxyous Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 "New" ? /thread You were beaten by 68 posts, Neil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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