Mobius Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 Im starting to think people are moaning about Muse's live output for the sheer sake of it. Cause I really couldn't see anything wrong with they glasto show. Granted the last tour was pretty sub par in terms of fobbing certain shows off with 15 songs then playing 3 more the next one - but for a festival performance there wasn't really much more they could do? What is the elephant in the room I'm missing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 Im starting to think people are moaning about Muse's live output for the sheer sake of it. Cause I really couldn't see anything wrong with they glasto show. Granted the last tour was pretty sub par in terms of fobbing certain shows off with 15 songs then playing 3 more the next one - but for a festival performance there wasn't really much more they could do? What is the elephant in the room I'm missing? As I mentioned before I was there and their performance was just average... I have seen better performance of all the songs (bar CE and SHNM) at other gigs I have been to. Uprising was great but a lot of songs started well but seemed to fizzle out halfway through. For a gig with a stripped down stage the performance wasn't up to scratch for me and after a good beginning GL just killed the mood and they didn't recover. IMO of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novus Dies Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 I blame Matt's inability to grow sideburns for shit soppy songs. Someone spike the guy with testosterone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dockertae Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 Im starting to think people are moaning about Muse's live output for the sheer sake of it. Cause I really couldn't see anything wrong with they glasto show. Granted the last tour was pretty sub par in terms of fobbing certain shows off with 15 songs then playing 3 more the next one - but for a festival performance there wasn't really much more they could do? What is the elephant in the room I'm missing? I also thought it was pretty much spot on. Glasto '04 and old Muse in general has really been put on a pedestal these days so I doubt anything could match some peoples expectations anymore. I would really say it's down to this and people's song preferences, because it seems to be if they play Bliss or something at a gig you get "Muse are back" and excitement for like a day, then they play GL at the next gig and everyones suddenly selling their Wembley tickets for the 3rd time that month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dramatic Hammer Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 As someone who doesn't really care much about Muse any more, I thought it was pretty good. Lots of sing-along singles, surprise guest collaboration (despite caring even less about U2), cool light show - pretty much what you want from a pyramid stage headline set... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dead-duck Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 Im starting to think people are moaning about Muse's live output for the sheer sake of it. Cause I really couldn't see anything wrong with they glasto show. Granted the last tour was pretty sub par in terms of fobbing certain shows off with 15 songs then playing 3 more the next one - but for a festival performance there wasn't really much more they could do? What is the elephant in the room I'm missing? Did they ever do 15 songs on the arena tour? I thought 16 was the minimum... </random> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze015 Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 Im starting to think people are moaning about Muse's live output for the sheer sake of it. Cause I really couldn't see anything wrong with they glasto show. Granted the last tour was pretty sub par in terms of fobbing certain shows off with 15 songs then playing 3 more the next one - but for a festival performance there wasn't really much more they could do? What is the elephant in the room I'm missing? They had been talking it up for weeks and I was expecting something different to the normal show from what the band had been saying. But Muse do it for every big show and never do anything, don't know why I was stupid enough to believe it this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dockertae Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 Did they ever do 15 songs on the arena tour? I thought 16 was the minimum... </random> I can't think of any under 16 songs, maybe one of the US dates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobius Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 Did they ever do 15 songs on the arena tour? I thought 16 was the minimum... </random> Probably meant 16, seeing as you are pretty slick with your setlist knowledge I'm not gonna contest that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tofu Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=098dFk5PBAQ Random stuff like this is why I'm still reading this thread. I guess. They had been talking it up for weeks and I was expecting something different to the normal show from what the band had been saying. But Muse do it for every big show and never do anything, don't know why I was stupid enough to believe it this time. Because they're Muse and we want to expect a lot out of them because love is forever and all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dead-duck Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 Probably meant 16, seeing as you are pretty slick with your setlist knowledge I'm not gonna contest that. I wasn't trying to argue, I was just wondering if it had happened. I know there are occasional discrepencies about the actual number of songs due to whether or not people count Nishe and Helsinki Jam as proper songs. I think it ranged from 16-19 songs on the european leg and 16-18 on the US leg, but there could have been one that was different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkadelic Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 The Resistance has 9 songs, Absolution has 12 and they played a longer set in 2004 than they did on Saturday and had less songs to choose from... But yeah, set list beef is a bit uninteresting. Actually the Saturday set was longer. In 2004 they played 14 songs, and on Saturday they played 17 (not including Nishe). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shwissky Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 I also thought it was pretty much spot on. Glasto '04 and old Muse in general has really been put on a pedestal these days so I doubt anything could match some peoples expectations anymore. I would really say it's down to this and people's song preferences, because it seems to be if they play Bliss or something at a gig you get "Muse are back" and excitement for like a day, then they play GL at the next gig and everyones suddenly selling their Wembley tickets for the 3rd time that month. I find hilarious how people think if they play an old song like Bliss that suddenly it means the perferformance was better. Despite including GL the Glasto performance was top notch and possibly the best of the tour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozza Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 I find hilarious how people think if they play an old song like Bliss that suddenly it means the perferformance was better. Despite including GL the Glasto performance was top notch and possibly the best of the tour. Bliss is far superior to Guiding Light though, no matter how well a poor song is performaned, it's never going to be exciting Performance wise they were fine, but there was just something missing. And Guiding Light was the ultimate mood killer. I can't believe that out of all the songs they have on The Resistance they chose Guiding Light, Resistance and Undisclosed Desires as the ones to have shown to the thousands of people there and the millions of viewers around the world. Sadly I feel this indicates where they are heading - dull stadium rock. Oh well was fun while it lasted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pip Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 Sadly I feel this indicates where they are heading - dull stadium rock. 'Dad rock' in the making??!:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozza Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 'Dad rock' in the making??!:eek: Who knows? Stuff like Hysteria and Knights were amazing and always good to hear a track from Origin which isn't Plug In Baby or Feeling Good again. Definitely better than the first night at the O2 but not as good as the second night. Did feel a range of emotions from enjoyment to dismay to despair to contentment to confusion. Maybe thats what they were intending? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plug me in Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 Hi Someone posted here about a DVD from Glasgow a few days ago... Just a question, why does it say on bootlegs that there is no torrents or that they werent found or something like that?? Is this supposed to happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lih Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 Did feel a range of emotions from enjoyment to dismay to despair to contentment to confusion. Maybe thats what they were intending? This must be that emotional edge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Mamba Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 People really rate the HAARP gig and I honestly think it is one of the most average performances they have ever given, SMBH being one of the worst with that nasaly guitar tone. I thought it was an excellent gig, not their best they seemed to be on form, CE sounds fantastic with that extra synth layer Morgan is adding on. One of the best SMBH versions I have heard in a while. The only criticism I will agree with is Guiding Light. I really don't know why it is in there. I understand they play the songs they enjoy playing, but even they must feel its out of place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunge Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 People really rate the HAARP gig and I honestly think it is one of the most average performances they have ever given, SMBH being one of the worst with that nasaly guitar tone. Agreed, I can't listen to it these days - it just sounds nasty from start to finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simno Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 Oh Bellamy What must his mother think of her son appearing on the television wearing a tshirt that has holes in it? All saints T-shirts are really thin I have a wolf-tastic one that is already going into holes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olly. Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 I dont think i've seen as many all saints shirts in one place like glastonbury, they were everywhere. And yeah they are pretty thin, you should see their jumpers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simno Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 But, you see there, 2004 had the fucking LAB COAT OF WIN. They could've played Akon's back catalogue and I'd have lapped it up. That's the most amusing thing I've read in weeks. Thank you for brightening up an utterly shite Wednesday Gems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simno Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 I dont think i've seen as many all saints shirts in one place like glastonbury, they were everywhere. And yeah they are pretty thin, you should see their jumpers. Their products are thinner than I am, and that is thin believe me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simno Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 Indeed, the stadium tour setlist should have have both Citizen Erased and Bliss pencilled in as definites given the poll results. I also really dislike Supermassive as song #2. Uprising or Mk Ultra are great as openers but Supermassive works loads better a wee bit later in the set, maybe #3, #4 or #5. Casino de Paris was perfect, MK Ultra into Map into Uprising into Supermassive. Switch MK and Uprising and it still works really well. I think Casino is one of the best gigs they've played in a good few years. Certainly kick started my re-interest in Muse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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