futurophu Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Ash last night. big band, small Venue. 26 UK dates, £15 a ticket. 22 songs on the setlist. A mix of old and new. Muse.. BIG Venue, not many UK dates, £41.50 a ticket. 17 songs. not a good mix of setlist. Muse. swallow your fucking pride. I think when a public vote award for 'best Live band' comes up, they will be hocked not to get it HA well bloody put. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozza Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Franz played friday and last night. £21.50. Over the course of the two shows they played 21 different songs and shook the order up a bit, including two different opening songs. They played 2 b-sides as well. And they've only got 3 albums, one of which is a bit poor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idiot Drugs Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Maybe they just dont like Olso? 2007 @ Spektrum 1. Close Encounters riff + Knights of Cydonia 2. Map of the Problematique 3. Hysteria 4. Supermassive Black Hole 5. Butterflies & Hurricanes 6. Sing for Absolution 7. New Born 8. Feeling Good 9. Sunburn 10. Soldier's Poem 11. Invincible 12. Starlight 13. Time Is Running Out 14. Plug In Baby + Citizen Erased riff Encore 15. Stockholm Syndrome 16. Take a Bow 2009@ Spektrum 1. Uprising 2. Resistance 3. New Born 4. Map of the Problematique 5. Supermassive Black Hole 6. Guiding Light 7. Interlude + Hysteria 8. United States of Eurasia 9. Feeling Good 10. Helsinki Jam + Undisclosed Desires 11. Starlight 12. Plug in Baby 13. Time is Running Out 14. Unnatural Selection 15. Exogenesis: Symphony Pt. 1 Overture 16. Stockholm Syndrome 17. Man with a Harmonica intro + Knights of Cydonia While I admit the 2007 gig was a good one as I went to it, this shows a slight piss take of Norwegian fans and its fucking expensive over there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juuso Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Ash last night. big band, small Venue. 26 UK dates, £15 a ticket. 22 songs on the setlist. A mix of old and new. Muse.. BIG Venue, not many UK dates, £41.50 a ticket. 17 songs. not a good mix of setlist. Muse. swallow your fucking pride. Pricing the tickets it's just a matter of demand, which is huge. That also means Muse can't afford to do loads of UK dates - it would mean losses in other parts of Europe. There's nothing to complain about these things, it's just reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunge Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Everyone Tweet this: '@muse Honest reflection upon your recent live shows: http://bit.ly/49Fcca. Cheers.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elainekav Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 only 1 hr 30 mmm getting more diasppointed now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaperJeanGirl Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 according to the oslo thread they only played around 1h 30 bad times FFS that is just shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haarpuna Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 I saw QOTSA when they were promoting Era Vulgaris. They didn't play many of their hits at all, no No One Knows, Lost Art of Keeping a Secret, Feel Good Hit of the Summer, Monster in the Parasol etc. I think the only 'big' singles that weren't on the newest album they played were Go With The Flow and Little Sister. My mates who I went with were what you'd class as 'casuals'. They were a bit shocked at the lack of recognisable songs, but loved the gig and ended up buying Rated R and Lullabies to Paralyse soon after the gig. Of course that can happen, but if you are a casual Muse fan and don't know that many songs, you'd be disappointed if they didn't play TiRO or SMBH, and in turn played some older song you never heard. Hell, weren't there even people in Helsinki who went "WTF?" at Cave? And since Muse have become more "mainstream", there'll be many of these people at the gigs. Come to think of it, Muse should play extra shows for die-hard fans with a varying setlist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozza Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Maybe they just dont like Olso? 2007 @ Spektrum 1. Close Encounters riff + Knights of Cydonia 2. Map of the Problematique 3. Hysteria 4. Supermassive Black Hole 5. Butterflies & Hurricanes 6. Sing for Absolution 7. New Born 8. Feeling Good 9. Sunburn 10. Soldier's Poem 11. Invincible 12. Starlight 13. Time Is Running Out 14. Plug In Baby + Citizen Erased riff Encore 15. Stockholm Syndrome 16. Take a Bow On paper that looks an awful setlist! Pricing the tickets it's just a matter of demand, which is huge. That also means Muse can't afford to do loads of UK dates - it would mean losses in other parts of Europe. There's nothing to complain about these things, it's just reality. But, they are aware how much people are paying for this stuff, so should adjust the show accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forevermusic Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Maybe they just dont like Olso? 2007 @ Spektrum 1. Close Encounters riff + Knights of Cydonia 2. Map of the Problematique 3. Hysteria 4. Supermassive Black Hole 5. Butterflies & Hurricanes 6. Sing for Absolution 7. New Born 8. Feeling Good 9. Sunburn 10. Soldier's Poem 11. Invincible 12. Starlight 13. Time Is Running Out 14. Plug In Baby + Citizen Erased riff Encore 15. Stockholm Syndrome 16. Take a Bow I want these now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkadelic Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 But for those who paid to see the gigs in Europe on the tour so far, it's just not on. Like... Ouch. I get how they might become tired, but to play 1 song less than the other gigs and swap 2 quite rare songs for a run-off-the-mill generic cover, like I said it's just not on. They really need to start listening to us fans and acting upon it. True, but I'm sure they're not nearly as bothered about it as we are. Oslo was the only one where I can see people being slightly dissapointed, and even then the gig was probably great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idiot Drugs Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 On paper that looks an awful setlist! Was a good gig really, they had lots of energy, they looked like they were having a laugh and there was lots of 'riffs/jams' and some random piano stuff from Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrinking Universe Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Everyone Tweet this: '@muse Honest reflection upon your recent live shows: http://bit.ly/49Fcca. Cheers.' You should've pointed it directly to your post! On paper that looks an awful setlist! I think it's better than today's:erm: Swapping Cave and Unintended for FG killed it for me:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gem Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Everyone Tweet this: '@muse Honest reflection upon your recent live shows: http://bit.ly/49Fcca. Cheers.' I sent a link to your exact post, its to the point. I sent this: "@muse Read this and learn: http://bit.ly/22Q451 Fans want a setlist shakeup. You're upsetting all of us." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozza Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 True, but I'm sure they're not nearly as bothered about it as we are. Oslo was the only one where I can see people being slightly dissapointed, and even then the gig was probably great. If you've never seen Muse before, then it was probably amazing. If you've seen them before you probably enjoyed it, then thought how it could have been and once the euphoria dies down realise it could have been so much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunge Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 You should've pointed it directly to your post! Modesty gets the better of me . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iddy Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Everyone Tweet this: '@muse Honest reflection upon your recent live shows: http://bit.ly/49Fcca. Cheers.' Done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wazlib Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Ash last night. big band, small Venue. 26 UK dates, £15 a ticket. 22 songs on the setlist. A mix of old and new. Muse.. BIG Venue, not many UK dates, £41.50 a ticket. 17 songs. not a good mix of setlist. Muse. swallow your fucking pride. I think when a public vote award for 'best Live band' comes up, they will be hocked not to get it HA When I saw Franz I only got 17 songs and they played for 90 minutes. It was an outdoor gig and pissing down rain so I really don't mind. Plus the stuff that happened before/after the gig more than made up for the shorter set. And to stay on the topic of Muse, this thread is making me sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yettiman Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 I haven't read the entire thread but I feel like I should throw my opinions in here in case it does make it to a petiton . I hate to complain about Muse as I really do love them and they are a brilliant band but I completely agree with what everyone is saying. Having been a fan since I was about 13 I've only been to one gig so far at Tinmuff so I'll most definitely enjoy the NIA gig on this tour and I'm very excited about it, but I'm feeling pretty disapointed so far. Would it really kill them just to mix it up a bit, throw in a few old songs/rarities? They're always saying they do it for the live shows and love performing so why not make the most out their brilliant back catalogue? Surely they must be aware of the fans desire for a bit of variety and value for money. It would be so easy for them to deliver a great set list that satisfies the wants of both old and new fans. I really hope they get their act together by the UK gigs. /pointlesspost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juuso Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Anyways, before going all rage-mode, we should look on the Copenhagen gig, since it's the last Nordic gig and there's a two-day break till Hamburg. They might last out a bit different set, since they have time to rest afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozza Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Was a good gig really, they had lots of energy, they looked like they were having a laugh and there was lots of 'riffs/jams' and some random piano stuff from Matt I was really disappointed at the Arena show I got in 2006. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquamarin Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 He knows. I've spoken to him about it loads of times. The band know. And they change nothing. This is more than frustrating. Meh. C&P from the other thread... ----- To clarify my thoughts. ______ Also, Clunge wins this thread, I suppose. Good posts. Everyone twitter your rage @muse. That's what I meant in the other thread! Maybe we should all tweet the same message? To show er... solidarity and consistence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Posted October 25, 2009 Author Share Posted October 25, 2009 I think the actual issue of length (that's time, not songs) is harsh. I just think they could at least have some variety. That's my main complaint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassDementia Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 "Casual" Muse fans wouldn't pay £40+ for a ticket to see them Unless they had loads of money or were stupid..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrinking Universe Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 I sent a link to your exact post, its to the point. I sent this: "Read this and learn: http://bit.ly/22Q451 Fans want a setlist shakeup. You're upsetting all of us." You're daring;) Modesty gets the better of me . That's the way, and that's why I said it;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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