Destroya Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 They write the set. They could've done another jazz fest set. They could do that at all gigs. Hehe thought this would've been bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heyjackk Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 So they're definitely not doing Australia anymore? That's really unfortunate. :/ With setlist length and the amount they charge for shows I'm not really feeling so unfortunate anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn. Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Next tour they should skip festivals completely, everybody know them by now and their shows in festivals are depressing compared to the ones in Arenas or Stadiums. They probably earn more money with an arena packed than with a festival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Next tour they should skip festivals completely, everybody know them by now and their shows in festivals are depressing compared to the ones in Arenas or Stadiums. They probably earn more money with an arena packed than with a festival. But the 2015 festival tour was better than like 80% of the arena tour. In fact, aside from these last few gigs where they've pretty much given up, I'd say this one's been reasonably solid as well. Also, I doubt they earn more money from arena gigs, considering how much their productions usually cost. They could be bullshitting or exaggerating but I'm pretty sure they've said before that they barely break even on arena tours sometimes? Headlining festivals will bring them a pretty penny I reckon, and with relatively small production costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Little Animal Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 I'm fucking done. This was the most disappointing show I've ever seen. Yup. I know the feeling. #oakland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn. Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 But the 2015 festival tour was better than like 80% of the arena tour. In fact, aside from these last few gigs where they've pretty much given up, I'd say this one's been reasonably solid as well. I don't know, setlist-wise they had great shows like Download, but that's the exception, usually festival setlists are just a bunch of hits for casuals. If the production cost are so high they should back up a little in arenas, then. I'm sure they could make a badass show with a few lights well placed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoyonco10 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Tour might as well be over at this point since it'll just be two more shows of this garbage setlist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 I don't know, setlist-wise they had great shows like Download, but that's the exception, usually festival setlists are just a bunch of hits for casuals. If we're talking just the 2015 festival run: AP was a regular, CE was semi-regular, stuff like Micro Cuts, Uno, The Groove, New Born and Agitated were popping up, Reapers and Stockholm were staples, Madness wasn't at every gig, Resistance was reasonably uncommon, Feely G was dead, Starlight still had guitar, average set length was probs 16 or so songs (only one less than the arena tour), level of performance was generally higher and more consistent (bar Matt's vocals). It was pretty good mang, that's why a lot of people were surprised by the dip that came with the world tour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 stuff like Micro Cuts, Uno, The Groove... and Agitated were popping up, Yeah like twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remco1993 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Glad I watched the first half of CHVRCHES' set before heading over to watch Muse's set from the back rather than going for a good spot. Even going in with low expectations, this was underwhelming The set length wasn't their fault - the festival only booked them for a 75-minute set - but the set list was. Playing Munich Jam and The Globalist when you only have so little time just doesn't make sense... but oh well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinho Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Glad I watched the first half of CHVRCHES' set before heading over to watch Muse's set from the back rather than going for a good spot. Even going in with low expectations, this was underwhelming The set length wasn't their fault - the festival only booked them for a 75-minute set - but the set list was. Playing Munich Jam and The Globalist when you only have so little time just doesn't make sense... but oh well Yeah, I wish I went to see Biffy Clyro instead of waiting hours to get a good spot for Muse... Kept hoping for a surprise encore-opener so I stayed until after TG, but obviously there was no encore with a 75 minute set. Playing Munich Jam, TG and Madness+DI back to back (same fucking song pretty much) is complete bullshit. They could've chosen to play 4 songs, of which one something like Reapers/SS/CE, and the set would've been pretty much tolerable. I had very low expectations going into it last night. Muse still managed to disappoint and it makes me fucking sad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 So it's the festivals fault? But Muse gets the blame? No you're right, it's my fault. My bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthijs Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 I would say the festival really came short giving the band such a short slot. Then again, they should've dropped the Globalist for a festival and added 2 older hits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frozenbanana Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 So it's the festivals fault? But Muse gets the blame? For deciding they needed to play Munich Jam as part of a 14 song setlist (12 if you count songs with words), yes they do, and they deserve to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyP117 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Poor form from the band, you get the feeling they just want this to all be over. They're putting in as little effort as possible which is a shame for the fans, they have every right to be pissed off. With that time slot they should be going all out. Replace The Globalist for Bliss and Stockholm and it's hugely improved. It still baffles me that Reapers has been dropped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Why did they drop the two best only good songs from the record? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forevermusic Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 75 minute timeslot is an odd one for festival headliner, but even odder is wasting a good chunk of that with The Globalist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Yeah like twice. Still more than the arena tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyP117 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Why did they drop the two best only good songs from the record? I remember something about them dropping Reapers on the US tour due to the band feeling it wasn't getting a good enough reaction. No idea about the reasons for dropping it on the current festival circuit though. I could be wrong but was Glastonbury the last time Reapers was was played live? These gigs could do with the intensity getting kicked up a notch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forevermusic Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Reapers hasn't been since Glastonbury, yeah. Not sure why. Handler I'm guessing was dropped for that 75m slot, given it also is doubled up with the Isolated System shortform, although I think that would've still probably gone down better than Globalist. And also Madness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 I remember something about them dropping Reapers on the US tour due to the band feeling it wasn't getting a good enough reaction. No idea about the reasons for dropping it on the current festival circuit though. Reapers hasn't been since Glastonbury, yeah. Not sure why. Same reason it was dropped/rotated in the US, I assume. Doesn't get the reaction they want, even if it is the best live song on the album by a mile They'd rather use the time to play stuff that people'll react to like...The Globalist and...UD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartianSpaghettiRider Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 If we're talking just the 2015 festival run: AP was a regular, CE was semi-regular, stuff like Micro Cuts, Uno, The Groove, New Born and Agitated were popping up, Reapers and Stockholm were staples, Madness wasn't at every gig, Resistance was reasonably uncommon, Feely G was dead, Starlight still had guitar, average set length was probs 16 or so songs (only one less than the arena tour), level of performance was generally higher and more consistent (bar Matt's vocals). It was pretty good mang, that's why a lot of people were surprised by the dip that came with the world tour. And still I've read of people complaining about the 2015 festival tour... For goodness sake, I'd sell a kidney of mine to go back in time and attend even just one of those gigs, compared to what's happening now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Still more than the arena tour Still proves Finn's point more. But the festivals were still better even as casual sets. Casual does not mean weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Little Animal Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 All Dutch newspapers are raving about Muse's set at Lowlands. Most mention that the rest of the lineup on Friday was pretty dull, so perhaps that's why Muse stood out. The Dutch press has always loved Muse though. Either way, they continue to harvest praise on less than autopilot, so unless they listen to this board's loony fanatics, they can continue on the same path for a while before the mainstream considers them stale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forevermusic Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 I thought they'd crossed over into being considered stale by some members of the UK press during The 2nd Law, given the derision Survival got when it was our Olympic anthem. But then their tours still get good reviews - the Drones arena tour got 4/5 across the board. Maybe it also helps of being less over-exposed to it - friends of mine saw them for the first time at Glastonbury and Download on this tour, and thought they were excellent. I dunno. We'll see what happens on the next tour, whether or not its isolated stuff next year or follows LP8. If, indeed, they do an LP rather than odd singles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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