topo_musero Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 (edited) I think it'll do with 1/2 slots for fans with songs like CE, Fury... Well, fan favourites in general. I always think: "okey, this setlist is good, that's fine" but through the middle it's always the same. Just 1 or 2 songs to make things a little unexpected. That's not too much to ask in a 16/17 songs setlist. I think they're still very good live, but the lack of some variation always makes me consider if I prefer to go to see another band in my country and not seeing Muse which is theoretically my favourite band. The problem is I feel kind of cheated, because I've bought all their albums, I buy merchandising, I support them, recommend them to almost every person I know. And I know I don't have more rights than any "casual" fan who enjoys them, but, I'll like them to listen to us just once. Edited February 27, 2016 by topo_musero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHappySpaceman Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Okay, here's a quick question. Would you guys be willing to settle for a fifteen-or-so minute break during the show, if it meant a longer setlist? Back when I still had a band, I would play eleven songs in the first set, then take a fifteen-minute break and play eleven more songs in the second set, and finish it up with a one-song encore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesWS Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 I feel they're doing themselves such a disservice with these sets. 2/3 extra songs would make a marked difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topo_musero Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Okay, here's a quick question. Would you guys be willing to settle for a fifteen-or-so minute break during the show, if it meant a longer setlist? Back when I still had a band, I would play eleven songs in the first set, then take a fifteen-minute break and play eleven more songs in the second set, and finish it up with a one-song encore. Yeah, of course, I'll even appreciate that since I'm tired of jumping at the 6th song :LOL: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Okay, here's a quick question. Would you guys be willing to settle for a fifteen-or-so minute break during the show, if it meant a longer setlist? Back when I still had a band, I would play eleven songs in the first set, then take a fifteen-minute break and play eleven more songs in the second set, and finish it up with a one-song encore. I felt like they take at least that, but spread over the whole gig. Matt in particular. Casual fans would no way want to stand around that long. Muse played the same or more, and more difficult, songs over a shorter timeline at festivals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozza Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 There is nothing on that setlist I really want to hear, except The Handler. A few songs are decent but I've seen them many times before and would see them again if i'm dumb enough to go to a gig on the next tour. I think I said this in 2009. Idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heyjackk Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 http://muse.mu/news.htm ahhh thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustyy Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 The Globalist is a problem in that, if I recall, they aren't playing that much below T2L tour (time wise, I believe), and it's taking up 2-3 songs worth of slots. Not that it's any excuse for the sets, but at this point I'd rather take 2-3 more than hear it, even though I would like to see the spectacle live Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 The US gigs varied by 1 song in length, and that was really all they needed to slot CE or Bliss in there with TG. Which they did in Mexico, Canada, and several early US dates. There's also like two minutes between songs. Remains to be seen if tonight was cut short due to late start, too, but I think they're typically always a little late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHappySpaceman Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 There's so much negativity here. It's funny because, before I found this site, I used to be so stoked to see Muse or to watch videos of them live because, well, they're Muse, and no matter what songs they play, they tend to be at least as good (if not better) live than in the studio. You can't say that about many bands or artists nowadays. Having been on this site for a while, I feel like I'm starting to feel like being amazing live isn't enough, and that they have to play certain songs, do certain things, etc. Am I turning into a snob? I don't know. I think I need some time off from Muse.mu. Not sure if I'll request the admins to ban me for a day, but I might be gone for a little bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel_Tufnel Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 The sets lag because of too much time between songs, too much prerecorded playback (Drones, IS, Prelude, JFK, Drones again) and 10 minutes of The Globalist is just kind of dull for most of the crowd. Even with that, the biggest disappointment is the lack of variation in songs, not just from show to show but from tour to tour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustyy Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 ^ You're not alone, it's struck me lately too... But it could also be a side effect of my having been very lucky with the sets I've seen. Either way, negativity won't help, and I'm sure I'd love tonight's set if that's what I get antway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustyy Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 If we take T2L Glasgow, switch songs from that album to this one, we get something like this: Unsustainable Supremacy Map of the Problematique Supermassive Black Hole Resistance Panic Station Animals Monty Jam Explorers Ruled by Secrecy Time is Running Out Liquid State Madness Follow Me Undisclosed Desires Plug in Baby Stockholm Syndrome Uprising Knights of Cydonia Starlight Survival Becomes: Drill Sergeant Psycho Dead Inside Map of the Problematique Plug in Baby Bliss Isolated System The Handler Supermassive Black Hole Resistance Starlight United States of Eurasia Munich Jam Madness JFK + Revolt Time is Running Out Reapers Stockholm Syndrome The Globalist Uprising Mercy Knights of Cydonia Don't fet how hard that would be, and it's a pleasing set Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 The band has been playing much of the same songs since release. Many of them for a decade. Fans are bound to get tired of them after that long, especially when that's really all there is. That's pretty normal. Not everyone wants to see the same songs gig after gig, no matter how good the performance. Muse's glaring issue is that in that last decade the hits have tended towards the very poppy, and being as diverse of a band as they are, it's also not as uncommon for the fans who love the band to maybe not be as into the pop singles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander DeLarge Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 (edited) Okay, here's a quick question. Would you guys be willing to settle for a fifteen-or-so minute break during the show, if it meant a longer setlist? Back when I still had a band, I would play eleven songs in the first set, then take a fifteen-minute break and play eleven more songs in the second set, and finish it up with a one-song encore. Ideally, it'd be 16/17 + 8/9/10 with an announcement telling people that this will be obscure material for the fans. Problem is, with their current stage design taking like 15 hours to build, if they have another gig in some other area of the country, they don't have the time to "start earlier" or play until midnight (generally not an option due to the sound curfew) Having been on this site for a while, I feel like I'm starting to feel like being amazing live isn't enough, and that they have to play certain songs, do certain things, etc. Am I turning into a snob? I don't know. I don't think it's snobby at all to hold them to a standard that they are clearly capable of (when they feel like it). What I find really insulting is how they'll play one of the best sets in the past decade to a crowd that got press for not even wanting them there. http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/muse/2015/donington-park-castle-donington-england-bc93dbe.html Versus a show full of hardcore fans that got this. http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/muse/2015/webster-hall-new-york-ny-23c8187f.html Edited February 27, 2016 by Alexander DeLarge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Okay, here's a quick question. Would you guys be willing to settle for a fifteen-or-so minute break during the show, if it meant a longer setlist? Back when I still had a band, I would play eleven songs in the first set, then take a fifteen-minute break and play eleven more songs in the second set, and finish it up with a one-song encore. Definitely. I made one in the setlist thread that implied many breaks. Wasn't very good but you get the idea. [Drill Sergeant] Psycho The Handler MK Ultra Fury Map of the Problematique Dead Inside Bliss Time Is Running Out Mercy Plug In Baby [JFK] Defector Butterflies & Hurricanes City of Delusion Animals Madness Sunburn Ruled By Secrecy United States of Eurasia Survival Revolt Aftermath The Globalist [Drones] Knights of Cydonia Supermassive Black Hole Stockholm Syndrome Apocalypse Please Uprising Reapers Flow is bad but basically try something where it can be broken up and made longer, and still contain usual and maybe mandatory hits. There's a lot of complaint about song choice and whatnot but at a length like that (and even shorter) they'd have to be actively trying to make a bad set to avoid playing some crowd pleasers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 There's so much negativity here. It's funny because, before I found this site, I used to be so stoked to see Muse or to watch videos of them live because, well, they're Muse, and no matter what songs they play, they tend to be at least as good (if not better) live than in the studio. You can't say that about many bands or artists nowadays. Having been on this site for a while, I feel like I'm starting to feel like being amazing live isn't enough, and that they have to play certain songs, do certain things, etc. Am I turning into a snob? I don't know. I think I need some time off from Muse.mu. Not sure if I'll request the admins to ban me for a day, but I might be gone for a little bit. Don't take it too seriously. But a lot of people have seen them do better. If you were around last tour it was mostly positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zepp Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 You could even fill some breaks with instrumentals, so that Matt can still rest his voice. Minimum, Forced In (2006 version), Piano Thing, more Bass & Drum... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odier Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 You could even fill some breaks with instrumentals, so that Matt can still rest his voice. Minimum, Forced In (2006 version), Piano Thing, more Bass & Drum... Or popcorn.. I almost forgot they did it in the past Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Remains to be seen if tonight was cut short due to late start, too, but I think they're typically always a little late. Doesn't look like it. Setlist pics show exactly what was played, only with the first run of Drones crossed off. Honestly, the song choices for this gig isn't even what bothers me 'cause I'm confident it'll improve over the next few nights. It's the fact that it looks like we're gonna be stuck with 17 songs until the end of the tour, which is just sad when you think about it. Even 2 more songs could massively improve any set but it just seems like they can't be arsed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 I still think rotations will improve significantly on subsequent nights. It's nothing we haven't seen over there before. I truly was not expecting that set, though. Even reddit was appalled. Maybe it really is that they "feel out" the crowd and decide if everyone is going to sing along or not... Wouldn't expect them to worry about France, though. Maybe they stuck to familiar territory because Matt sounded a little off from the last gigs: maybe wasn't feeling well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectrum IV Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 There is nothing on that setlist I really want to hear, except The Handler. A few songs are decent but I've seen them many times before and would see them again if i'm dumb enough to go to a gig on the next tour. I think I said this in 2009. Idiot You hit the nail on the head. If you went to a gig on the TR/T2L tours and then went to last night, odds are that 2/3 of the songs are the same, and the other 1/3 are new songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Just realized Reddit kind of fell for the fake setlist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johi36 Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 ^ You're not alone, it's struck me lately too... But it could also be a side effect of my having been very lucky with the sets I've seen. Either way, negativity won't help, and I'm sure I'd love tonight's set if that's what I get antway Ah, I'm usually one of those "how can you be so negative, you old grump??" people, but last night felt a bit off even for me. Just too many factors that made it a bit annoying (heat, less than ideal view, a little girl next to me that I felt I had to protect from the people around us, not so great view, achey legs, etc.). So I hope for a better night tonight, and that I'll be the annoying "oh they can't do ANYTHING wrong" person again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonisdead Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 I'm sure that Europeans would have joined in if you or any other American would have started a campaign. But Alex's argument against that was that you couldn't possibly have known at the time that it would be needed, and then I guess it was too late? Which makes you wonder why Europeans are blamed despite the fact that the same logic applies to us *Insert Redemption quote* If this whole Q&A thing hadn't popped up (at the most opportune time, might I add) I was getting in gear to attempt to start a Reddit AMA campaign... but of course that would have been total crap compared to this so it worked out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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