Gemsy Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 I don't really see why it matters, the 'I think' is generally implied. If I went to a restaurant and the food was shite, I'd just say 'this is horrible'. Saying 'I think this tastes shit' just sounds unnecessary, to me at least. The same applies to music. I agree. Had this debate with a friend years back, I said 'It's really cold', he said 'it's not cold, you're cold'. I said, 'I feel cold, which means I believe it is cold, which means, from my perception, and where else do we speak from, that it IS cold.' 'But it's not cold.' the debate raged on, I ended up doing a shit on him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trogette Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Well, shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemsy Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Proper shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemsy Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Can one really prove anything on an infinite timeline? We're just wondering if this tour is worth the massive amounts being charged, especially if we have to travel, really I think it's fair to want someone to put on a quality show for that kind of cash. ^^ So far, from what I've seen, even if I had the money, I'd still be like, 50/50 whether I'd get a ticket or not. The first 50 is like 'NOPE THEY'VE jumped the shark, his voice sucks, the setlist blows, that stage is going to be ridiculous, fuck those fuckers', the other 50 is ' but it's Muse, it's still going to be better than anything that isn't Muse...' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johi36 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 I don't really see why it matters, the 'I think' is generally implied. If I went to a restaurant and the food was shite, I'd just say 'this is horrible'. Saying 'I think this tastes shit' just sounds unnecessary, to me at least. The same applies to music. Maybe some people mean it like that, but more often than not, it seems more like "this is shit, how can you like it, you idiot?!!!". That's what I have a problem with. Of course, if your own opinion is settled enough, remarks like that won't change it and shouldn't make you feel irritated. EDIT: oh and I went to a restaurant once where the food was way too salty for my family, and they complained - the waiter just said "well, that's a matter of taste, isn't it". Ok, that I found very rude, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trogette Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 ^^ So far, from what I've seen, even if I had the money, I'd still be like, 50/50 whether I'd get a ticket or not. The first 50 is like 'NOPE THEY'VE jumped the shark, his voice sucks, the setlist blows, that stage is going to be ridiculous, fuck those fuckers', the other 50 is ' but it's Muse, it's still going to be better than anything that isn't Muse...' pretty much! I have a few 'second tier' faves but Muse are another matter, and we know that the show is going to be a *show*... Which is no doubt what's made Jobby shell out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trogette Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Maybe some people mean it like that, but more often than not, it seems more like "this is shit, how can you like it, you idiot?!!!". That's what I have a problem with. Yes, this! Of course, if your own opinion is settled enough, remarks like that won't change it and shouldn't make you feel irritated. EDIT: oh and I went to a restaurant once where the food was way too salty for my family, and they complained - the waiter just said "well, that's a matter of taste, isn't it". Ok, that I found very rude, too. My opinion is settled, but the 'it's shit, no it isn't' thing just leads to stupidity, and that's irritating also. and yeah that is rude! Were you in France?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 pretty much! I have a few 'second tier' faves but Muse are another matter, and we know that the show is going to be a *show*... Which is no doubt what's made Jobby shell out Pretty much the opposite actually. The simpler, the better for me. The descriptions of the show was one of the main things putting me off tbh. I'm only really going for the possible rarities + a couple of songs from Drones that I still haven't seen. (Well, plus some personal reasons but no need to get into those on a messageboard) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen Erased 01 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 love that CE is sticking around for a few gigs, I'm willing to stomach Resistance and Feeling Good for that. Unsustainable is just a bit too shit though tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johi36 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 My opinion is settled, but the 'it's shit, no it isn't' thing just leads to stupidity, and that's irritating also. and yeah that is rude! Were you in France?! No, in Vienna, but people here tend to be grumpy and rude anyway. I'm used to it. Still don't like it, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 ^^ So far, from what I've seen, even if I had the money, I'd still be like, 50/50 whether I'd get a ticket or not. The first 50 is like 'NOPE THEY'VE jumped the shark, his voice sucks, the setlist blows, that stage is going to be ridiculous, fuck those fuckers', the other 50 is ' but it's Muse, it's still going to be better than anything that isn't Muse...' This pretty much sums up what I'm feeling exactly, plus adding on a likely amount on travel and expenses that I would be an absolute idiot to spend even if it was the best fucking show of all time. Not to mention for some reason the band/management is being dicks about North American dates right now, and I'm putting other things on hold due to uncertainty. I can't reconcile how shit I think this tour is going to be with how sad I know I'm going to be when I miss it. I clearly have emotional problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johi36 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 I can't reconcile how shit I think this tour is going to be with how sad I know I'm going to be when I miss it. I clearly have emotional problems. Sounds very "normal" to me. I don't think it will be so shitty that I won't still love it somehow. Besides, I'm living such a hermit live most of the time, that it will be good for me to get out - so yes, I would be very sad if I missed it, even if it's going to be as bad or even worse as some people think it will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forevermusic Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 I can't reconcile how shit I think this tour is going to be with how sad I know I'm going to be when I miss it. I clearly have emotional problems. Seems to be a general vibe on here tbf. Probably why a fair few said "I'm not going", then caved and bought tickets... like I did. Although tbf I wanted to do something more elaborate than just going to London, as I did that on both the last two arena tours. But then nobody else wanted to come with so that's what I'm doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 I guess at this rate if there's going to be more US or Canada dates, we might have time to see if things improve. I would be severely disappointed if he sounded as bad as that Berlin gig, and honestly I haven't heard anything since then so that's what's really stuck in my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael8888 Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Can't wait for another bland set tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halo eighteen Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 5th show added in Milan for May 20. I wonder how different all these multi night residencies are going to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudia O Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 The Handler is back! https://twitter.com/musenewses/status/648489378109607936 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobe Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 (edited) madness and smbh in a row over now - well the handler and ap for resistance and feeling good isn`t that bad though I`d like ce and the globalist and showbiz and the handler in a row for the arena tour more than madness and smbh....but as matt said its a kinda best of thing now and it (hopefully) will be different for the drones arena tour Edited September 28, 2015 by Kobe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael8888 Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Ended. Hong Kong has a surprisingly good audience. I put up an UNO sign. Matt saw it and went "can't play it tonight" or something. Got CE, Handler returned. 10/10 It's okay IGN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicklord Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Ended. Hong Kong has a surprisingly good audience. I put up an UNO sign. Matt saw it and went "can't play it tonight" or something. Got CE, Handler returned. 10/10 It's okay IGN How long is the show? 90 minutes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael8888 Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 How long is the show? 90 minutes? Actually 2112 to about 2230 or 2245. A 16-17 songs set. Same length as the other Asian gigs and festival gigs. Fun fact: The Ruse had to rush out to chill out with the crowd since Muse was late again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAurelia Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 The Handler is back! https://twitter.com/musenewses/status/648489378109607936 Great!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAurelia Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Five dates in Milan and there are still tickets available... So, come on...what is happening? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 So Muse just tweeted a playlist of songs with the hashtag #Muse360 and Sing For Absolution is one of the videos ayyyy as well as Dark Shines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyP117 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 (edited) Sunburn, Fury, Dead Star and Micro Cuts too. Didn't someone recently mention to Dom about bringing back Sing For Absolution? Edited September 30, 2015 by cyborgninja117 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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