serpentsatellite Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 One of the streamed festival gigs had less bs and downtime between songs, managed to put extra songs in the setlist, and convinced me that's how the gigs should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Riffs after big, climactic songs like Stockholm or even New Born are great and appropriate. Songs like Hysteria, TIRO and Supermassive, however - no. It's just needless padding that you could use to play an actual extra song or two. Bit weird, but I remember there being a quote on one of the old Guitar Hero games that went something like "People don't pay money to watch you jam" and it always springs to mind when I think of Muse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudia O Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Riffs after big, climactic songs like Stockholm or even New Born are great and appropriate. Songs like Hysteria, TIRO and Supermassive, however - no. It's just needless padding that you could use to play an actual extra song or two. Bit weird, but I remember there being a quote on one of the old Guitar Hero games that went something like "People don't pay money to watch you jam" and it always springs to mind when I think of Muse. I think it is boring to play the same intro/outro riffs to the songs again and again....! Jamming means to me improvisation, so this is def not jamming. To see Muse jamming would be awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopix Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 I'd pay money to watch a band jam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudia O Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 I'd pay money to watch a band jam. Me too! Only a good band can jam and create something new, and Muse are great and bound together so...and if they lose themselves for half an hour in jamming it's ok! :Dand if they only play 3-4 songs then, wtf great! when I know it is a Jam-gig I am happy with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 I'd pay money to watch a band jam. Would you pay £70+ though? and if they lose themselves for half an hour in jamming it's ok! :Dand if they only play 3-4 songs then, wtf great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dockertae Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 I could understand that until I saw a video of The Mars Volta jamming while playing Cicatriz ESP live and it didn't even remotely resemble the original song - dullest thing ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanp16 Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Reddit Yep, there's your problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Yep, there's your problem. After reading through some of the threads for about 20 minutes, I know what you mean Shite place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forevermusic Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 So did I before this tour but I still recognise Feeling Good and Explorers as being dross live, particularly the latter. I think Animals is fine as it is, it just doesn't translate that well to bigger or more open venues. I imagine it sounds pretty beefy in a smaller club-size venue. Tbh, I've gotten tired of them needlessly adding riffs onto the ends of songs. It's not as bad as I remember it being during TR Tour (or was it T2L Tour?), but I still wouldn't want any more. In fact, I'd like less riffs/intros/wankery if anything. I find Explorers nice on record but live, meh. Was a reasonable break after Knights of Cydonia at SBE, which was wild, but not really memorable. I think making the Animals outro longer is a thing I felt about the record version - well, that and not having the squawking stockbrokers over the top. I liked the cash confetti live, even if I've since lost my Muse Euro, but it wasn't the best live song, put it that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunge Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Werchter this summer was how Muse should play. Hardly any gaps between songs - was a great set because it had momentum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudia O Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Would you pay £70+ though? Yes, I think so..would be a special opportunity to experience their genius. "Muse Jam Special" But I wouldn't pay as much as for the VIP tickets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectrum IV Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Animals is fine at its current length. The end riff already repeats a bunch of times. I wouldn't mind seeing Mercy with an extended outro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 My issue with Animals is that the ending riff really feels like a buildup to something that never comes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicklord Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 I love jams, that's probably why I love rhcp live and nobody else does When I saw them in 2003 they played 18 minutes after last song. Also, Dazed and Confused is the best Led Zeppelin live song. I would like to see Muse playing some improvised riffs instead of Nirvana or RATM. That would make shows different even with the same setlist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agitated2 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Although T2L gets a bad rap, Explorers for me is not a song, but a lullaby, even down to the 'go to sleep' bit at the end. When this album came out I had a young child and could definetly emphathise with the 'go to sleep' part as I had yet another night of not sleeping lol An absolutely beautiful song IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoyonco10 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 is the gig tomorrow in Chile featuring the new stage set up? or do we not know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LewisF Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 I know setlist fm isn't exactly the most reliable of sources but it claims they've recently been playing the Vuilstamen Riff.... Don't know if anyone can confirm but if it's true then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halo eighteen Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 is the gig tomorrow in Chile featuring the new stage set up? or do we not know The round setup starts in Mexico next month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kjell S. Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 I know setlist fm isn't exactly the most reliable of sources but it claims they've recently been playing the Vuilstamen Riff.... Don't know if anyone can confirm but if it's true then Yeah, they did in Hong Kong couple of weeks ago: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LewisF Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muse59200 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 When I read some posts here, I understand now why the prices for muse gigs keep increasing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanp16 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Anyone know what time the gig is at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aleluman Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Anyone know what time the gig is at? It's in 2 hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Shit, didn't realise the gigs started so soon. Doubt it'll be the full stage setup but could be interesting to see what the arena setlists look like and if any songs get brought back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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