Hat Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 the extended bit in Unnatural Selection was great Non-profesionals shouldn't be allowed to write their opinions . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Been listening to a lot of Tool lately, and imagining what Muse would sound like if they actually experimented with different time signatures (the handful of times that they've done anything other than 4/4 so far has been pretty standard stuff). Do you guys think Muse actually has the skill to pull off anything truly difficult? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn. Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 (edited) The extended bit of US is fantastic, and my opinion is better than yours, sorry guys. "Do you guys think Muse actually has the skill to pull off anything truly difficult?" Sure, they are great musicians, the question is if they want to do that. Lately they are dumbing down lyrics to be more accesible to general audiences, Wouldn't surprise me if they do the same with the music. The last "out of the norm" songs they did were Exogenesis and Drones, and weren't well received here because aren't "Rawr" and cannot headbang with them at the gigs, and outside here were mostly inadverted because is not mainstream music. Edited August 16, 2016 by Finn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Sure, they are great musiciansI don't think the answer is as simple as that. Their output isn't generally that difficult, and whenever Matt is faced with something a bit odd tempo wise, he seems to drop it completely (MK Ultra for example). I was surprised that he actually seemed to work to get the part in The Handler right, but that took him a while. And what, Exogenesis was very well recieved, both among fans and critics. But Matt HAS said that he often avoids doing anything truly difficult on the guitar so he won't have to work that much live, but then after that he has released songs which he described as him actually "trying", so maybe that's what we've seen in tracks like Animals and Reapers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn. Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 (edited) As long as they do it in the studio... I don't care if the song live don't match exactly the recording. Edited August 16, 2016 by Finn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudia O Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Don't know if you know this, but please watch it :LOL::LOL: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remco1993 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Seeing them again on Friday... Secretly hoping for Assassin, but knowing them, we'll probably get Resistance again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn. Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 They should sync his laugh with Isolated System Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denise3112 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Don't know if you know this, but please watch it :LOL::LOL: Hysterical :LOL: And that guy has no teeth! Symbolic?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forevermusic Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Seeing them again on Friday... Secretly hoping for Assassin, but knowing them, we'll probably get Resistance again At least you've set those expectations that low that no Resistance is probably a bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bs Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 I've had Resistance at every show I've seen them, but it does tend to go down well live to be fair. It's just that they've got too many songs like it already really. They seem determined to cram them all into the same set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinho Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Seeing them again on Friday... Secretly hoping for Assassin, but knowing them, we'll probably get Resistance again Same here. It kinda feels like roulette at this point. I'm just hoping on not getting Resistance, since I believe I've got that at every gig. Same for Hysteria. I'd be VERY happy with getting something like MotP, CE or Stockholm, since I've never seen the first two live. But yeah, it'll probably be Resistance, UD or Feeling Good... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwillbechasingastarlight Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Do you know if they have tried 'Map of the Problematique + Psycho'? I mean straight into Psycho with the 0305030 riff after MOTP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 They have not. That wouldn't work anyway since it's a different tuning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LewisF Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Do you know if they have tried 'Map of the Problematique + Psycho'? I mean straight into Psycho with the 0305030 riff after MOTP. At a festival in 2013 (may have been Personal Fest, probs wrong here) they played MOTP followed by (what was then) the 0305030 riff in drop C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 At a festival in 2013 (may have been Personal Fest, probs wrong here) they played MOTP followed by (what was then) the 0305030 riff in drop CI think it's with that in mind that the person is asking if they've done the whole song like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remco1993 Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 At least you've set those expectations that low that no Resistance is probably a bonus. It's the best way to go these days, who knows how they'll surprise me Same here. It kinda feels like roulette at this point. I'm just hoping on not getting Resistance, since I believe I've got that at every gig. Same for Hysteria. I'd be VERY happy with getting something like MotP, CE or Stockholm, since I've never seen the first two live. But yeah, it'll probably be Resistance, UD or Feeling Good... I've seen them six times since 2012 and think I've only had one gig without Resistance, a few more without Hysteria though (which I like better). Then again, I've also only seen Feeling Good once so I can't really complain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LewisF Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 I think it's with that in mind that the person is asking if they've done the whole song like that. Fair enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander DeLarge Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 At a festival in 2013 (may have been Personal Fest, probs wrong here) they played MOTP followed by (what was then) the 0305030 riff in drop C They did the riff at ACL and it sounded really fucking cool live. Probably one of the heaviest sounding things I've ever heard them do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 They did indeed do it at as well. Always thought Psycho would've sounded better in C tbh, on the album I mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 I preferred it in D tbh. I just wish it wasn't longer than 3 minutes. 3 and a half at most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forevermusic Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 I'd like to see a full song around a Drop C riff like those ones usually done as an outro to MOTP. Would be pretty great live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Still disappointed that Muse didn't do something crazy for Drones, right before the protagonist turned the whole thing around. The album (and I) needed a truly dark, twisted moment. But Muse haven't been that kind of band for like 15 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumpypotato Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Been listening to a lot of Tool lately, and imagining what Muse would sound like if they actually experimented with different time signatures (the handful of times that they've done anything other than 4/4 so far has been pretty standard stuff). Do you guys think Muse actually has the skill to pull off anything truly difficult? Well they have played with time signatures a bit here and there: Animals is in 5/4, and Micro Cuts fluctuates between 4/4 and 6/4. I don't see them writing something as complex as Schism or Rosetta Stoned, but I think they're entirely capable of writing more difficult music than what they have been. I'm assuming that it's less of an issue of their skill than them just not wanting to write anything particularly hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Yeah those were the songs I was referring to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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