jacjens Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 Jack Garratt finished 10 min. ago. Nice atmosphere and the arena is packed at the floor and lower tier - wasn't expecting that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuesch Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 Defector was also really nice to hear, but to be honest, I was kinda hoping for Stockholm at that point, I just felt like some more heavy stuff. Crowd was not quite as good as London, but pretty close. Mosh pit was a bit smaller, but other than that energy/jumping around seemed roughly on-par. So, that was my last Drones-360 gig. I had really great times at all of them, but I'm also really really glad this silly 360-stage thing is over for me now (unless they do it again next tour, which they better not ). I'm glad I was somewhat unspoiled for this tour. Had I known it was Defector vs. Stockholm Syndrome, I would have cried. I live for hearing SS live! Speaking of more heavy stuff: I went with a friend and her husband, and he found the setlist too pop-y. I'm glad non-fans think so too! I don't know what exactly it is with arenas, but I tend to blame them for the lack of fun. We stood at the back of the standing area and I had expected the crowd to move towards the stage and condense once the band started. But that didn't happen this time, so for me the gig lacked a bit of atmosphere. That 360° thing fascinates me. It was so different to be the furthest from the stage, but still so close that I had a good view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forevermusic Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 If anyone really cares, Psycho, Reapers, Bliss and Dead Inside have kicked things off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nkdmtro93 Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 Who really cares anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanp16 Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 Bliss, Map, Resistance all pre-SMBH. Wtf is going on? So definitely no TAB anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nkdmtro93 Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 Maybe a Starlight/Resistance rotation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanp16 Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 Resistance SMBH Starlight Feeling Good Madness Hysteria TiRO Uprising Wow. I really dodged a bullet there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 Lucky you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanp16 Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 Lucky you. I suppose considering Map, Bliss and Reapers it's still miles better than Oakland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemsy Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 yawn again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 Bliss and Map do put it par with the best US show, sadly... but I suppose we at least didn't get Feeling Good. I'm surprised at how that wasn't a staple for us, since it's the only OoS song Matt thinks we deserve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Little Animal Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 I suppose considering Map, Bliss and Reapers it's still miles better than Oakland. Yup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunge Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 May as well just have left after The Handler . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcatkinson77 Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 The thing lives. Extended thing this evening. Cruddy photo - sorry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 I've found a few of these from over the ages So maybe it's just a nervous tic like picking his nose in interviews. Way less fun that way, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fam201 Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 (edited) I'm glad I was somewhat unspoiled for this tour. Had I known it was Defector vs. Stockholm Syndrome, I would have cried. I live for hearing SS live! Speaking of more heavy stuff: I went with a friend and her husband, and he found the setlist too pop-y. I'm glad non-fans think so too! I don't know what exactly it is with arenas, but I tend to blame them for the lack of fun. We stood at the back of the standing area and I had expected the crowd to move towards the stage and condense once the band started. But that didn't happen this time, so for me the gig lacked a bit of atmosphere. That 360° thing fascinates me. It was so different to be the furthest from the stage, but still so close that I had a good view. Yes, that last point is one of the upsides of the stage. I've never been this close to the band at a Muse gig before. However, what really annoys me about the stage is the point you made before: I don't know how far arenas are to blame for the lack of atmosphere, but it's been widely discussed on here (and even mentioned to some extent by the band), that the 360 stage thins out the crowd a lot as everyone is spread along the length of the stage, creating pockets of "hardcore" fans and jumpy people (obviously this is not the case for every song, some songs have more people jumping) instead of them all meeting up in the middle and thus resulting in a less energetic crowd and worse atmosphere. Another annoying thing about the 360 is how often you're singing to the bands back. Edited June 9, 2016 by fam201 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Yes, that last point is one of the upsides of the stage. I've never been this close to the band at a Muse gig before. However, what really annoys me about the stage is the point you made before: I don't know how far arenas are to blame for the lack of atmosphere, but it's been widely discussed on here (and even mentioned to some extent by the band), that the 360 stage thins out the crowd a lot as everyone is spread along the length of the stage, creating little pockets of "hardcore" fans and jumpy people instead of them all meeting up in the middle and thus resulting in a less energetic crowd and worse atmosphere. Another annoying thing about the 360 is how often you're singing to the bands back. It was very obvious that quite a lot of the crowd didn't feel as much like getting into it when they couldn't see the bands front, either. There'd be a lot of cheering and handwaving when one was right in front of them, but it would stop the moment they moved on. Which really is only natural, as if you're trying to show your excitement or appreciation, you expect someone to see it. And it worked both ways, because the bulk of the movement from the band (or Matt, Chris never moved that much anyways,) was just moving from mic to mic, or skipping around in a circle, and the show wasn't exactly very dynamic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Museic Syndrome Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 I am starting to believe that the band have kind of regretted going for the 360 tour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanp16 Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 I am starting to believe that the band have kind of regretted going for the 360 tour. That was at least hinted at during the US leg when Dom said it would be really nice to our with a simpler stage instead of "this big conceptual nightmare". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacjens Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Some quick thoughts on last night's show in Hamburg (I was at lower section's seats in the middle - perfect view): Atmosphere and crowd were surprisingly good and up for it considering it was Monday. Band seemed to enjoy it smiling a lot to each other and having eye-contact with the front rows. In my opinion the sound was too muddy and unclear. Matt's vocals and guitar were good, but like in London I couldn't feel Chris' bass enough and ESPECIALLY not Dom's kick drum at all. All 12 drones and stage production worked perfectly - not a single malfunction at any point as I saw it. The dildrone was about to go down a couple of times but still kept on flying. Setlist start was very promising with Bliss (fuck, was so happy to see it again!) and Map. Unlike many people here I like Resistance a lot and it got a big crowd reaction. but then ... FEELING FUCKING GOOD, why won't you go away? Crowd needs to stop reacting so well to it, but yeah that must be why ... I love how they adjust the volume through some of the songs. Everything gets turned up in Reapers' outro, Map's outro jams, TIRO's chorus e.g. Knights was mega as always and they turned the outro so much up to 11 it almost hurt in the ears. I'm pretty sure Matt took notice of my big Assassin-For-Copenhagen sign after Knights with his body language saying "yes, I see you!". Going for barrier both tomorrow and Thursday, so hopefully it can happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 That was at least hinted at during the US leg when Dom said it would be really nice to our with a simpler stage instead of "this big conceptual nightmare". It really does seem like Dom is not on the same page with the direction they are going, both sets and setlists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corkscrewed Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 New Born will be back at some point. Late response, but I hope so. I freaking love New Born. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Luke Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 I am starting to believe that the band have kind of regretted going for the 360 tour. Honestly I think they are enjoying it more than they were in the USA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunge Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 The Muse shows I've enjoyed most? Reading 2011, Download 2015, Earls Court 2004 and Eden 2006. The thing they all had in common? They were (relatively) stripped back shows. Just screens and lights. No real 'production'. I just wish they'd do 'a tour'. Plain and simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 That was at least hinted at during the US leg when Dom said it would be really nice to our with a simpler stage instead of "this big conceptual nightmare". They always mention how much they like stripping back when they do it. They always talk about how much they like just rocking out to the rockier songs when they do it. They even made an album with the intention of capturing the above two points (and for the most part they succeeded). But when they actually start proper touring that's all gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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