Frakkles Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 I don't understand why people still post here if they're just going to complain about how horrible it is here. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Seems counter-productive to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 They've been stepping up the let's-mute-all-the-muse-live-videos thing even more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazy-Babie Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 At least we can agree that forums > Muse subreddit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander DeLarge Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 You're right, Zepp was pretty shit too. Eh, I don't care how many cool songs they play, if they close with Starlight (especially the guitar-less Starlight they've been playing recently) I'm gonna walk out disappointed and with a bad taste in my mouth. Objectively you have to admit that it's quite a let-down after getting something so fucking good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee3Dee Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Eh, I don't care how many cool songs they play, if they close with Starlight (especially the guitar-less Starlight they've been playing recently) I'm gonna walk out disappointed and with a bad taste in my mouth. Objectively you have to admit that it's quite a let-down after getting something so fucking good. You know, when people talk about something like the 20th anniversary petition making Muse fans seem annoying, I call bullshit. But when people say "yeah, we got a bunch of B-sides and it was awesome, until Starlight invalidated the whole gig and made it shit", I'm inclined to agree. What a goddamn stupid fanbase we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Yeah I'm sure all the people at Zepp left the venue disappointed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee3Dee Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Yeah I'm sure all the people at Zepp left the venue disappointed Oh yeah, did you miss the shitstorm that followed the Zepp gig? It got to the point where Bellz himself had to go on Twitter and say "Relax guys, we're never doing that again. #lol20thanniversary". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forevermusic Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 They've been stepping up the let's-mute-all-the-muse-live-videos thing even more. Is that really necessary by Warner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 It's like one big, final "fuck you" to all of us... I just don't see what the point of them doing this anymore is, and the fact that they are targeting a lot of fan favorite gigs and songs just makes it more personal feeling. Yeah, sure there's a lot of Dead Star vids up, but every single recent performance of Fury and Micro Cuts are muted, and you can't tell me it's a coincidence that many/most of the MM ones are too, going back to like 1999. And changing to muting them was a great idea to stop piracy... but I'm still not convinced cell phone videos count as piracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 I noticed it when I opened this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander DeLarge Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 You know, when people talk about something like the 20th anniversary petition making Muse fans seem annoying, I call bullshit. But when people say "yeah, we got a bunch of B-sides and it was awesome, until Starlight invalidated the whole gig and made it shit", I'm inclined to agree. What a goddamn stupid fanbase we have. Well at least with a normal arena gig, you'd walk out on a high note (Survival). With the Zepp, I'd walk out thinking "they're capable of THAT and they stick to doing THAT?" The gig wasn't shit, it was amazing but that really brought it down and I'm sure I'd feel the same way if I were there. Like seriously, what a bummer after something that amazing. Why end on something that is just so boring and so manufactured? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zepp Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 So you mean you'd prefer Muse not to play one more song than playing Starlight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 So you mean you'd prefer Muse not to play one more song than playing Starlight? Without a doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee3Dee Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Like seriously, what a bummer after something that amazing. Why end on something that is just so boring Yeah, like KoC at the end of every good TR gig*. * Yes, there were a few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witz Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Without a doubt. I would rather Matt play a 5 hour midi pad solo than play starlight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zepp Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Why end on something that is just so boring and so manufactured? Actually for me, of all the times they did it, Starlight closing made sense only at Zepp because of the whole party-style of that encore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthijs Posted May 2, 2014 Author Share Posted May 2, 2014 So far, only blackout has been blocked of last tour. My other live vids are still up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DifferentPerson Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Actually for me, of all the times they did it, Starlight closing made sense only at Zepp because of the whole party-style of that encore. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altbecky Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 I think the over zealous hatred of Starlight is ridiculous. Its not that bad of a song. The vocals are great, the piano is nice. I get being sick of it but come on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthijs Posted May 3, 2014 Author Share Posted May 3, 2014 The bridge is good, but I do wish he played the guitar parts again. Same goes for Follow Me, which was better with added guitars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 I think the over zealous hatred of Starlight is ridiculous. Its not that bad of a song. The vocals are great, the piano is nice. I get being sick of it but come on. It's decent on the record but I'd say the hate it gets live is justified, particularly when it's used as a closer. I remember when someone managed to get the setlist during/before the Coventry gig and everyone thought they were joking when they said that Starlight was closing. If it sounded like it did during the BHAR tour I'd be fine with it being played, but it's gotten increasingly naff with every tour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 I remember when the Saitama broadcast ended with Starlight and everyone complained cause it sounded like a shitty closer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forevermusic Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 It's decent on the record but I'd say the hate it gets live is justified, particularly when it's used as a closer. I remember when someone managed to get the setlist during/before the Coventry gig and everyone thought they were joking when they said that Starlight was closing. If it sounded like it did during the BHAR tour I'd be fine with it being played, but it's gotten increasingly naff with every tour. Aye the best live versions of Starlight were at the start of the BHaR tour when Matt played the piano parts on guitar. They got rid of that absurdly quickly, but its a bit much the progression has gone from Matt playing more guitar than there is on the record version to playing no guitar. Even then, the version on the Resistance tour was reasonable enough. But the current version isn't as good as the older ones were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunge Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Starlight would be fine live if they made it properly heavy again - massive bass, really loud piano + guitar playing it too, really crunching chorus and heavy outro too. I've always thought Starlight had the potential to be a bit like Bliss live, if they really went for it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-j3clZRH3M That one is a bit slow though, it's better played a tad faster. It sounds huge when the first chorus bit kicks in though . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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