MusoCuts Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 A very good song but i think there's something wrong with it. I don't know what, but it makes time to me to like this song. I prefer it live, so far better! The bassline is sooooo good 8/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Muser Posted July 3, 2010 Author Share Posted July 3, 2010 I love the bassline, I suppose for the fact it is so simple yet manages to stay memorable. We all know Chris can shred his bass or make melodic basslines, but seeing that he could make such a haunting, yet simple intro, was a sign that he was going to have a smashing career. As for the rest of the song, I'll admit, it can seem repetitive at some points, but Matt manages to liven it up with all his fuzz and voice octave effects. I hear a lot more hype about the Origin of Symmetry album (of which I can't disagree with) when I talk with my Muser friends, so I'm not sure where the idea of Muscle Musuem being overrated is from, but nonetheless, it's a groovy, and haunting song. I dig. 9/10 I think the overrated factor comes from this being singled out as one if the three good tracks on Showbiz. That argument shits me because I think there are lots of good tracks on that album. It probably does deserve to be in the top three but for me this song is just really good without really blowing my mind. It's hard to describe. I would kill cute little puppies and kittens to see it live though. This song has such incredible energy. Few more days on this song I think and then onto Fillip. Someone asked when b-sides will be done as well. I am thinking we do each album then all the B-sides from that era. Meaning once this is done we discuss Con-Science, Coma, Twin, Spiral Static, Twin, Do We Need this and Jimmy Kane and Agitated. Are there any Showboz era b-sides I have missed. Is Host here or is that around OOS time? Oh and yes, Hullabaloo tracks are done at the time of the CD which will be after Origin B-sides. Everyone like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riveon Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 9/10 Along with Sunburn, Uno, Showbiz and Unintended, and to a lesser extent, Cave, Muscle Museum makes up for the otherwise fairly average quality of the rest of the album. It has an interesting flamenco-inspired (I think it's flamenco, correct me if I'm wrong) melody and a simple but memorable bass line, and it builds to an amazing climax at the end, with great vocals throughout. Unfortunately the music video is abysmal. Even the band think so. Everyone like this? Sounds fine to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c6rman Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 ok, so you all basically summed up all of what i had to say, its a bloody brilliant, yet simple song (hey, its their first album, you cant expect Stockholm Syndrome quality right out of the gate). perhaps my favourite version is from Glasto '04, just the added little riffs and such made the song sound soo much better, especially the ending. Also love that live version because of Bomber Manson, my fave Manson yet! its a shame it got retired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryW7 Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 I love Muscle Museum, along with showbiz they are the only Showbiz songs in my top 20 I will give MM 8.5/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack259 Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 Sunburn - Musically an excellant album opener, especially for a debut. Some days I like it and some I don't for some reason. I love the piano playing, and the ending is very good (from the last chorus ish). 7/10 Muscle Museum - Simple melodic bassline starts us off. The song really gets me going when the guitar comes in before the chorus. Again, sometimes this song bores me and other times I love it. A Muse classic. 8/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Muser Posted July 6, 2010 Author Share Posted July 6, 2010 Ok, it's been a week and discussion was solid on MM. Onto a lesser light (in fact we have a few coming up) so we may not go the whole week. Fillip (actually, is it one or two l's - i never take notice) is not one of the most popular Muse songs and to me it is their most generic track. that doesn't mean I don't like it, it just means it's very bland and unorigi- OH WAIT A MINUTE!!!!! Where the hell did that piano interlude come from? See the thing I love most about this track is the fact that nobody really excpects that to happen and its just beautiful and haunting all at once. Who thought of putting a beuatiful piano piece right in the middle of a rock song. Then there's the slow build up into the final chorus. Lovely song 7/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiKeUltra Posted July 6, 2010 Share Posted July 6, 2010 Fillip Fillip is uhh... okay? That's really the best way I can describe it; it's nothing special, but it's by no means bad. 5/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riveon Posted July 6, 2010 Share Posted July 6, 2010 Filip 5.5/10 I'm with Aussie Muser, the bridge is what livens this track up. Until then, it is nothing special, and a tad bland, but then the piano with the beautiful, eerie falsetto kicks in and makes up for it. However, the rest of the song is rather dull; too dull for me to rate it any higher than what I've rated it. Not one of the best Showbiz songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davinq Posted July 6, 2010 Share Posted July 6, 2010 Direc-shoon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack259 Posted July 6, 2010 Share Posted July 6, 2010 I like Filip, it has cool lyrics and I love the breakdown, it's amazing. An underrated and overlooked track imo. Could work again live, but I doubt we'll ever hear it again. 7/10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUSEirik Posted July 6, 2010 Share Posted July 6, 2010 I like Filip, it has cool lyrics and I love the breakdown, it's amazing. An underrated and overlooked track imo. Could work again live, but I doubt we'll ever hear it again. 7/10. Agreed. It's not one of my favorites, not even on Showbiz, but I still like it. 6,5/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plug me in Posted July 6, 2010 Share Posted July 6, 2010 Fillip (never know if its with LL or just oneL: either:$) It's not a bad song, but it gets kind of boring for me... I Like the change in the middle, its fresh, but the song itself is average imo. 6,5/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuesch Posted July 6, 2010 Share Posted July 6, 2010 People don't seem to like Fillip much. I like it. Maybe because when I heard it start with "It's happening soon" it reminded me of Wir sind Helden - Wenn es passiert. That song is about something good happening and wanting to be there when it happens (makes me think of Wembley ). The mood of the sound also reminds me of that Wir sind Helden song. Only that Fillip is a bit... doomier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabijota Posted July 6, 2010 Share Posted July 6, 2010 Fillip: When I started listening to Showbiz at first I got into Muscle Museum and I was listening to it constantly, since Fillip is next track, sometimes I wouldn't notice Muscle Museum had finished playing so I would listen to Fillip too and slowly I began to like this song a little bit but still it never became my favourite. I think I would rate it 7/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryW7 Posted July 6, 2010 Share Posted July 6, 2010 It has grown on me recently, fillip, but it is fairly poor for muse. I prefer ashamed and agitated so I will give it 4/10 (1 is Guiding Light, and 10 is Stockholm Syndrome) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomparrot Posted July 6, 2010 Share Posted July 6, 2010 I don't understand how people dislike fillip I admit it isn't one of the best songs by muse and definately not one of the best songs on the album(Sunburn, Showbiz, Escape) but i find it a great song and it fits well between muscle museum and falling down. I especially like the breakdown and how it comes back into the song. 7/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Repeaterbeater Posted July 6, 2010 Share Posted July 6, 2010 I think that breakdown makes the song, and Bizzare Festival performance is epic in any sense of word. 6/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enemy Posted July 6, 2010 Share Posted July 6, 2010 Fillip is a quintissential burst of real crazy young Muse. Love the ferocity yet unrefined sound of the riff. When the track builds back up, cascading into that massive final chorus, my head explodes. Albeit, the seperate parts of the song don't gel together amazingly well. And while the chorus is catchy it's also kind of... annoying, I guess. But I do love listening to this. 7 / 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furygirl Posted July 6, 2010 Share Posted July 6, 2010 Direc-shoon? That drives me batty. I think that breakdown makes the song. I agree. It's not my favorite on the album, but I never skip it, and it's fun to sing. 7.5/10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In Ryanbows Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 Fillip is one of their most underrated songs, if not the most underrated. The lyrics hinder it a bit, but other than that it's awesome. 8.5/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomparrot Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 I think the overrated factor comes from this being singled out as one if the three good tracks on Showbiz. That argument shits me because I think there are lots of good tracks on that album. It probably does deserve to be in the top three but for me this song is just really good without really blowing my mind. It's hard to describe. I would kill cute little puppies and kittens to see it live though. This song has such incredible energy. Few more days on this song I think and then onto Fillip. Someone asked when b-sides will be done as well. I am thinking we do each album then all the B-sides from that era. Meaning once this is done we discuss Con-Science, Coma, Twin, Spiral Static, Twin, Do We Need this and Jimmy Kane and Agitated. Are there any Showboz era b-sides I have missed. Is Host here or is that around OOS time? Oh and yes, Hullabaloo tracks are done at the time of the CD which will be after Origin B-sides. Everyone like this? I think B-side songs should be less than a week or 2/3 a week to keep people interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Muser Posted July 8, 2010 Author Share Posted July 8, 2010 I think B-side songs should be less than a week or 2/3 a week to keep people interested. That's a good idea but what I'll do (and this is the same with any song) is guage the general reaction of each song so if a song looks like there's not much more discussion going on about it, we'll go to the next one. Fillip is actually getting quite a bit more discussion than i thought but yes - with B Sides I am thinking we probably could knock off 2 or 3 a week. Thanks for your input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomparrot Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 don't mention it, Fillip is strarting to slow down now though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Muser Posted July 9, 2010 Author Share Posted July 9, 2010 don't mention it, Fillip is strarting to slow down now though. Yer, true. one more day of Fillip and this then we move on to the next track (which I think will be even slower) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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