bbgunn34 Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 (edited) Since i became a Muse fan in the Absolution Era, their has always been a song off every album that has received a lot of criticism, from Endlessly and Soldiers Poem, to Guiding Light, and Explorers(Not limited to these, just examples). I have always seemed to like these songs(And all the rest on the album( bit what I'm wondering is: What song will you stand by and be a proud fan of despite the opinions of your fellow Musers. For me it's Endlessly, i really love what they did with the sound of it. And yes it is a personal song, much like Madness. But it was key to the development of the story behind the very much conceptual Absolution. It talks about how during this apocalypse someone has lost a loved one, and despite losing them; this person will hopelessly love them for the rest of their life. I think it's beautiful. Personal, but beautiful. I will stand by that. Edited October 14, 2014 by bbgunn34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Do you mean Sing for Absolution? I can honestly say I've never seen anyone say they don't like that song. Easily in my top 5, though I have a different interpretation of it. I do have a love of some truly hated/disliked Muse songs, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee3Dee Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Endlessly, Soaked, Glorious (mostly needs defending against Clunge because he is a clunge), Soldier's Poem, Neutron Star Collision, I Belong To You, Exo-Politics and probably some others that I can't think of right now. Edit: Oh, and Explorers. Edit 2: And Fillip. Always Fillip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom//P Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Exo-politics, explorers and survival. Survival is generally liked but still people say 'shit lyrics' or 'over the top'. As though OoS wasn't over the top or B&H was Matt's famous hour as a lyricist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Endlessly, IBTY, Easily (when it's needed) and...Knights of Cydonia (I'm looking at you, Dee) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redneonfish Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Resistance is one. I agree that the 'could be wrong' bits are little bit shit, but I don't think it ruins the song. Exo-Politics and Follow Me are others that I enjoy, and think get unfair stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Follow Me, for sure. Invincible. My boyfriend is reading over my shoulder, and wanted me to add: "if you don't like NSC, you don't really like Muse." However, I'm not sure I support that theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectrum IV Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Survival is generally liked but still people say 'shit lyrics' or 'over the top'. Meanwhile Jon Holmes of BBC Radio 4's The Now Show described it as an "Epically proportioned cacophany of enormous noise" that was like "the sound of an orchestra falling down some stairs" created by "throwing a hand-grenade into a music cupboard and recording the results". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 I'm pretty sure I remember Survival being almost universally mocked when it came out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 By the """outside world""", kind of yeah. Here, not really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 It's always been a bit backwards to the outside world on this board. I realize I do defend Survival to outside people, even though I truly don't like the song at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 It's always been a bit backwards to the outside world on this board. I realize I do defend Survival to outside people, even though I truly don't like the song at all. Probably because it's indirectly defending Muse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 I think it's more defending me, as people generally refuse to really distinguish one bad or "embarrassing" song, from the entire band being bad or embarrassing. I have absolutely no issues saying here that I can't stand Survival, and I've never warmed up to it, but with "regular" people, it feels more like admitting I like a shit band, instead of a good band with a shit song or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 I find that just saying "Yeah that's a shit song" usually solves that problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 In normal situations, maybe. Survival is such an OTT monstrosity, I mostly find people just assume Muse is a "joke" band or some such if they hear it and aren't familiar much with any of the other work (or, prior to Madness, it was mainly KoC, which could also been seen similarly as too OTT or jokey.) I shouldn't really give two shits what my house guests think of Muse, but for some reason it bugs me to have them think I'm "seriously into" something they put on a level with Weird Al records. I've never been ashamed to say I defend Muse to people, though. I think they've largely had some magnificent output, and the few misses (even when spectacular misses) shouldn't detract from that. But, to the outside world it's mostly down to my personal insecurities. And the fact most of my acquaintances are insufferable hipster wannabes. Having my bf stop playing the damn song when company is over would probably solve the issue, but unlike me, he seems to like when people think he's "different." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectrum IV Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 I think it's more defending me, as people generally refuse to really distinguish one bad or "embarrassing" song, from the entire band being bad or embarrassing. Conversely though, to assert that Survival is a good song relative to the Muse canon sets an expectation for uninitiated, potential fans that the band's "best" works are only a marginal improvement over what has just been regarded as trite. Instead, I would sincerely agree with their opinion that Survival is disappointing, if not redeemed slightly by its fun eccentricities. Then I would point out the gaping chasm in quality compared to Muse at their creative peak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 I don't think I've ever told anyone I think it's a good song, I've just downplayed how much I actively dislike it. Never really thought about it until now, and just remembered this happened last week; maybe also because it feels like insulting my boyfriend, as well. I guess, on topic, he has aggressively defended Survival, to me, as a "masterpiece." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn. Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Invincible and Survival Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Little Animal Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 I've always defended Endlessly, Fillip and Unintended. I used to defend Explorers, but now I'm thinking I may have been wrong about that one. Also, I stick up for Liquid State when it needs some help now and then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Little Animal Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 By the """outside world""", kind of yeah. Here, not really. Its role as an Olympic anthem was mocked here, there and everywhere though, a lot of us only warmed up to it in context of the rest of the album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Invincible Exo-Politics Feeling Good Unintended Oh, Escape too. I love that one, but I'm not too sure if it's widely disliked. The EP version is one of Muse's best songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 TOADA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Little Animal Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Oh, Escape too. I love that one, but I'm not too sure if it's widely disliked. The EP version is one of Muse's best songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim59 Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Fillip, NSC and Resistance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbgunn34 Posted October 14, 2014 Author Share Posted October 14, 2014 Do you mean Sing for Absolution? I can honestly say I've never seen anyone say they don't like that song. Easily in my top 5, though I have a different interpretation of it. I do have a love of some truly hated/disliked Muse songs, though. Fuck i meant endlessly what the figgity fuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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