Str4t0c4st3r Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Hey there, at first, im new in this Forum, and i'm from Austria (not Australia, lol) so, im sorry for my bad english. I've been a MUSE fan for more than 2 years right now, and in can't stop listening and i'm a guitarist and i love playing and covering muse. Well.. my question is : how can i make the map of the proplematique guitar sound? yes, i know that there are many threads with this question. im serious, i've read a lot of posts with the same question, but i'm not able to find out what i am doing wrong. equipment : BOSS ME-70, digitech whammy i already know that i need a programm which one i can control the whammy via MIDI. and theres my problem, i think. i tried a lot of programs, but most of the time the whammy didnt respone to that or i didnt know how to use the program, lol lets say, a FREE! software. I also read that a lot of people are using cubase but.. a bit expensive, huh? it would give me a great pleasure if there are any guitarist who can help me or doing a step-by-step instruction what i need and what i have to do (..for dummies.) i hope my english is not that bad and i wish you a nice day thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james90 Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 what program(s) are you using now, and how do you have the whammy hooked up to your computer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Str4t0c4st3r Posted December 11, 2011 Author Share Posted December 11, 2011 I didn't find many free software yet, but i tried it with a Guitar Rig demo (but i dont had enough time ) Reaper (but i dont know how to use it) and a few others.. The whammy is connected with a USB-MIDI cable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james90 Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 I didn't find many free software yet, but i tried it with a Guitar Rig demo (but i dont had enough time ) Reaper (but i dont know how to use it) and a few others.. The whammy is connected with a USB-MIDI cable Well all you need is a MIDI sequencer. Are you using a PC or a mac? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Str4t0c4st3r Posted December 11, 2011 Author Share Posted December 11, 2011 Windows 7 64Bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.Valencia Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 The closest sounding/least expensive way to get the MOTP sound is to go to this guy: http://www.youtube.com/user/aorfix ask for the midi file, I don't know if I'm supposed to say this but when I asked for the midi file he also sent me a Cubase file which I ended up not using but if you ask him for it he might send it to you. Once you get the midi file and Cubase, you hook up your midi cable to your whammy and then to your computer, open up Cubase and load the midi file, make sure your midi cable is being recognized, once it is you just press the play button and off you go. Also make sure your whammy is on and the treadle is pushed down to the toe position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 The closest sounding/least expensive way to get the MOTP sound is to go to this guy: http://www.youtube.com/user/aorfix ask for the midi file, I don't know if I'm supposed to say this but when I asked for the midi file he also sent me a Cubase file which I ended up not using but if you ask him for it he might send it to you. Once you get the midi file and Cubase, you hook up your midi cable to your whammy and then to your computer, open up Cubase and load the midi file, make sure your midi cable is being recognized, once it is you just press the play button and off you go. Also make sure your whammy is on and the treadle is pushed down to the toe position. I can recommend Aorfix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will_ Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 I can recommend Aorfix Me too, it's great. I got nowhere near it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthijs Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Merge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Str4t0c4st3r Posted December 16, 2011 Author Share Posted December 16, 2011 Thanks everyone. I wrote aorfix a message one week ago.. he didnt write back yet. But thanks anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 I didn't find many free software yet, but i tried it with a Guitar Rig demo (but i dont had enough time ) Reaper (but i dont know how to use it) and a few others.. The whammy is connected with a USB-MIDI cable I actually use Reaper more than Cubase. I'd like to know if it's possible to do MIDI commands in Reaper. I can never get it to work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomrulez Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 I actually use Reaper more than Cubase. I'd like to know if it's possible to do MIDI commands in Reaper. I can never get it to work It is and I've done the whole motp thing in reaper. Create a new midi track and view it in event view then insert the appropriate cc messages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Ok I just got a Digitech Whammy for christmas. I've never used MIDI before or any guitar software so I could really do with a step-by-step of what to do if anyone has the time I've checked out Cubase as well, bit too expensive to be honest, I need something free if possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthijs Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Merge? Ok I just got a Digitech Whammy for christmas. I've never used MIDI before or any guitar software so I could really do with a step-by-step of what to do if anyone has the time I've checked out Cubase as well, bit too expensive to be honest, I need something free if possible. Read through this thread. Not sure about free midi controlling programs though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomrulez Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Use Reaper. I must have recommended Reaper about a million times on this board now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 The answer to everytihng MOTP related is aorfix, even the software I just recorded a cover of MOTP which I'll upload in a sec. Uses Aorfix's stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olly. Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Stealing my thunder bitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze015 Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Did this a while ago with a vocoder - http://www.sendspace.com/file/acbq0b Didn't have an amp sim at the time, but you get the idea. Do remember reading that they got the sound in a similar way, rather than with a Whammy or any other form of pitchshifting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 We really need a Soundcloud embed option on here http://soundcloud.com/d0mgreen/motp As you can see by the waveform I have taken inspiration from the production of BH&R to have it all very COMPRESSED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearAndPanic Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 I've checked out Cubase as well, bit too expensive to be honest, I need something free if possible. Is mentioning the notion of Cubase potentially being free taboo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olly. Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 We really need a Soundcloud embed option on here http://soundcloud.com/d0mgreen/motp As you can see by the waveform I have taken inspiration from the production of BH&R to have it all very COMPRESSED what tab do you use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 what tab do you use? I use a combination of some tabs I've found online and stuff I worked out myself from a certain video (think it's one of Pip's from Stade de Suisse). I posted it on here somewhere I'll have a look for it. As far as I can tell apart from the little fill bits it's accurate as to what he played in 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomrulez Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Anyone got Aorfix's midi file and are willing to upload it somewhere where we can grab it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 what tab do you use? Had to go back 5 pages to find the right thread, but this is what I posted a while ago Seriously the amount of searching it took me to find this...It's kind of a blend between studio and live version. Most of it is what he plays live, but like the last four bars and four bars in the middle where live he does some bends and shit I just put in what he plays on the album Tuning is CADGBe obviously Intro: D--5--5--5--5-- A--3--3--3--3-- Intro after the intro which isn't quite the intro but I'll call it the intro anyway: C--0--3--8--5-- Verse: e--------------------------------- B------------(3)--4--4--4--6-- G--5--5--5--5--5--5--5--5--- D--5--5--6--3----------6--3--- A--3--6----------3--6----------- C---------------------------------- Pre-chorus & Chorus: A--3--6--11-8-- C--0--3--8---5-- Random 4 bars in the middle (obviously he plays this different live) D--5--5--5--5-- A--3--3--3--3-- C--0--0--0--0-- Then this again: A--3--6--11-8-- C--0--3--8---5-- Second Verse: e--------------------------------- B------------(3)--4--4--4--6-- G--5--5--5--5--5--5--5--5--- D--5--5--6--3----------6--3--- A--3--6----------3--6----------- C---------------------------------- Le slow chorus: e--8----11--11---8--- B--8----8----9----9--- G--8----8----8---10-- D--10---8---10--10-- Outro (again, he'd play something else live, but this is more similar to the studio version): A--3--3--3--3-- C--0--0--0--0-- Judge for yourselves http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsNCLUrWyZc&feature=player_embedded Anyone got Aorfix's midi file and are willing to upload it somewhere where we can grab it? I might have it in my YouTube inbox actually... Re:MOTP file Cubase 5 Portable -> http://www.megaupload.com/?d=F8EEXL0Y It was on btjunkie torrent site but it's gone now. It's portable, so no installation needed. The file say Photos from Wedding, only for precaution and not to be blocked. It's on .rar, so you need winrar or 7zip to extract it. Extract it, run Cubase5.exe and the program will run perfectly. Map of the Problematique Cubase File Here is the Cubase file with everything (midi track and the original by muse) -> (Map of the Problematique version 1) http://www.megaupload.com/?d=T9PH5ZS7 -> the file is the "motp work on 2" Recently I've updated the midi track to a new version (Map of the Problematique Version 2) http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2M5JZBU9 -> The file is "motp work on 3-01 You only need to open the file and press play. Don't forget to connect your midi cable (like the M-Audio Uno Usb/Midi) to the digitech whammy 4 by the Midi In and to press your Whammy pedal down If anyone thinks I should remove that then just tell me. I'm only pasting it here since he seems willing to let people have it anyway, just no one can seem to get hold of him at the moment. To be honest I don't even know if the links still work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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