james90 Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Hey, at least we got Bs to type in paragraphs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthijs Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 @xtinction: they mean your post is: tl;dr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtinction Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 tl;dr?.. does tl mean too long? And does anyone have Guitar Rig 4 settings/patch for the volume swell-type effect just before the vocals kick in? I'm guessing it's an analogue sequencer and a volume pedal but i'm unsure of the settings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthijs Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 it means: too long, didn't read. Type in paragraphs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtinction Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 oh, my bad, I was kinda desperate for help with it so I didn't think about that, well, one of the problems I mentioned has been sorted already, but the other one: the sequencers I use on guitar rig to control the pitch pedals run all the time, not just when I play, so the effect isn't always in time, is there any way to fix this? A way to ensure the sequencers only run when I start playing? Oh and sorry to be impatient and all, (I've posted this request in the Tab Request thread already) but I really need an MotP guitar backing track for tonight, even if it's just a MIDI one, I can't find, real or MIDI anywhere, any ideas/links? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthijs Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Doesn't a count-down synch the settings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtinction Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Count down? On guitar rig? Either i dont know how to use that or havent foun it yet; im very new to Guitar Rig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthijs Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Oh I naturally assumed you'd use it in Cubase. If you don't, no idea. Sorry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtinction Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 aha, no, would it be easier if I used it in Cubase? (however my pitch pedal has no MIDI jack, would that be a problem?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 I try the Molten MIDI 2 method but the damn thing doesn't work. I plug it all in but the MM2 is just unresponsive and is always stuck on a yellow/orange light. Anyone know what the problem could be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtinction Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 well, aside from the fact I don't have the cash atm to get a Molten MIDI and a Whammy, the MM method doesnt allow you to switch between the 2 pitch shifting patterns does it? that's what Ive been told, so I went for the software option Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidious911 Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 well, aside from the fact I don't have the cash atm to get a Molten MIDI and a Whammy, the MM method doesnt allow you to switch between the 2 pitch shifting patterns does it? that's what Ive been told, so I went for the software option Guitar Rig has a VST plugin, can use it in other programs. I create my effects, and load them into Reaper, and can then control the whammy through MIDI in Reaper. This allows you to sync everything up exactly with the track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muse59200 Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Where can I find the midi file for MOTP ?? thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xMrPickles Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 Where can I find the midi file for MOTP ?? thanks Yeah +1 thanks guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtinction Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 There was a guy on YT who had a link to the MIDI file download, but the link's long been broken it seems. The file itself isn't that difficult to make yourself, so long as you know the octave patterns for the song (1 main one, 1 variation) You can use a sequencer in Guitar Rig too, but it's overall more easy and less time consuming to make an accurate one in Cubase or Reaper or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze015 Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 http://www.sendspace.com/file/pgd6ux Done this before, but done a new one quickly to demonstrate roughly what it sounds like when done correctly with a vocoder and not a Whammy. Done in Ableton Live using Tension for the "guitar" with the channel muted. Analog for the synthesizer set to a square wave with the filter turned down a bit > Vocoder with the carrier signal from the "guitar" and everything left on default settings > Marshall JCM800 emulation for no specific reason. The synth plays the pattern, which changes root note based on the chord being played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtinction Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 1. Is this method doable in Ableton Live 8.0.4? 2. If so, could you do a brief tutorial on how to achieve what you did? 3. Probably should have asked this first, but, did you use a hardware vocoder, or a software one that is/is not included with Ableton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze015 Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 I use Ableton Live Suite 8.4.1 (If you're still using 8.0.x, upgrade immediately to a newer version as they added one or two things in 8.2.0, but basically everything needed is in all versions of 8.x) and everything was done using Ableton's stock instruments and vocoder, only the guitar amp emulation was 3rd party. The setup is quite simple actually: 1 - Create an audio channel for your guitar (In my example I used a synthesizer because I was being lazy) and the mute this channel 2 - Create a MIDI channel and choose any synthesizer you like, its only being used for a basic square or saw wave anyway and create a clip with the note pattern. 3 - On the MIDI/synth channel add Ableton's vocoder or a 3rd party one if you happen to have one, although this may require more messing about. With the vocoder, change the carrier input to that from the audio channel with your guitar 4 - Either output the signal to your amplifier or add an amp simulation if you want. If unsure of anything, look on Youtube for a video on setting up Live's vocoder. The setup won't be much different to the traditional way of using one, just instead of vocals, you're using a guitar. The only difference is to use the vocoder on the synth track with the carrier signal from the guitar, rather than the opposite way round/traditional method. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyChemGd1234 Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 i´ll buy a whammy... so what do i need to get this effect? just the pedal? i don´t want to spend more money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtinction Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Cheers! Never used Ableton before (more of a Cubase guy myself) but it shouldn't be too hard to get done, been looking for a new MOTP sound as the quality I get from GR's pitch shifting is pretty bad. And yes, the Whammy is all that's required money-wise, I mean, you need to get something like Cubase, Ableton, or Reaper, but those can be, ah, acquired, if you know what I mean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyChemGd1234 Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 but i want to play the effect without my computer D: any options? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 but i want to play the effect without my computer D: any options? No there's really nothing that won't require either more spending or a computer. You need something to automate the Whammy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyChemGd1234 Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 No there's really nothing that won't require either more spending or a computer. You need something to automate the Whammy. ok and spending a little bit more for a controller or something like that? how much would be one? would be awesome if it would be available in germany Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomrulez Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 ok and spending a little bit more for a controller or something like that? how much would be one? would be awesome if it would be available in germany A Molton Midi unit will kind of do it, you'll be limited pattern wise though. http://www.moltenvoltage.com/molten_midi_2.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyChemGd1234 Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 A Molton Midi unit will kind of do it, you'll be limited pattern wise though. http://www.moltenvoltage.com/molten_midi_2.html damn expensive! i thought about somehing for 25 euros D: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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