Mattestro Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 And, less of a gripe, but it seemed like all of the people revolting were women and all of the soldiers were men? I don't mind coz it's just the actors' genders, but I hope it's not another thing that's trying to suggest that men are all oppressive and evil :/ wut about the robots tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alesi08 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 freedom has been banished fucking hell "drones will take over the world" "look at our awesome stage with 16 drones flying around" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That_Italian_Guy Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Well, this video kinda ruined the Drones era for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninsp Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Song still sucks, video looks like CoD and the Hunger Games had an illegitimate child. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Well, this video kinda ruined the Drones era for me That's sort of overdramatic even by my standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAurelia Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 The video made me even love this song more, it's gonna be so good live. I fully agree This video, and particularly the 360 version, is amazing. Revolt is not my favourite song of the album, but it's catchy and danceable. Revolt will be great live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAurelia Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Well, this video kinda ruined the Drones era for me Really?? A very pessimistic post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johi36 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 That's sort of overdramatic even by my standards. I kind of liked that virtual reality thingy. Still not my most favourite video, but I don't think it's bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeterna Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 #NotAllMen No, not all men. And I'm not gonna stop saying that because a few crazy kill-all-men Tumblr feminists started a hashtag because they simply can't stand any valid argument against half of their stupid claims. Just because women have been oppressed for thousands of years doesn't mean that now it's time for 'revenge' and men should start being portrayed as vile pigs that should be crucified. If I say "I'm sick of all women obsessing over band members", are you going to disagree with "Not all women do that", or is that just not being able to handle criticism? Seriously, hashtags and trends like that are so stupid and I'm sure it would have been started by a few teenage Tumblr users who have no clue about anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 I kind of liked that virtual reality thingy. Still not my most favourite video, but I don't think it's bad. I'm actually kinda sad I can't see the "virtual reality" one. No, not all men. And I'm not gonna stop saying that because a few crazy kill-all-men Tumblr feminists started a hashtag because they simply can't stand any valid argument against half of their stupid claims. Just because women have been oppressed for thousands of years doesn't mean that now it's time for 'revenge' and men should start being portrayed as vile pigs that should be crucified. If I say "I'm sick of all women obsessing over band members", are you going to disagree with "Not all women do that", or is that just not being able to handle criticism? Seriously, hashtags and trends like that are so stupid and I'm sure it would have been started by a few teenage Tumblr users who have no clue about anything. You realize saying all women fantasize about band members is also sexist and repressive, right...? Or minimalizing the feminist movement as a delusion started by "teenage Tumblr users"? Wowza... I don't get what's so difficult to understand about how the ruling/oppressive class has historically been a men's club. Instead of making actual progress, people just want to take every damn thing personally, and overreact with this "makes all men seem evil and disgusting" line... and completely ignore the fact that MAYBE IT'S NOT ABOUT YOU. This video made me feel a bit more favorably about Matt's "I see the protagonist as a woman" statement, which I thought was a bit of a blunder previously. Or at least an intentional misdirect because the album's about him, but he needs to tell his kid something someday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeterna Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 I'm actually kinda sad I can't see the "virtual reality" one. You realize saying all women fantasize about band members is also sexist and repressive, right...? Or minimalizing the feminist movement as a delusion started by "teenage Tumblr users"? Wowza... I don't get what's so difficult to understand about how the ruling/oppressive class has historically been a men's club. Instead of making actual progress, people just want to take every damn thing personally, and overreact with this "makes all men seem evil and disgusting" line... and completely ignore the fact that MAYBE IT'S NOT ABOUT YOU. This video made me feel a bit more favorably about Matt's "I see the protagonist as a woman" statement, which I thought was a bit of a blunder previously. Or at least an intentional misdirect because the album's about him, but he needs to tell his kid something someday. I'm saying that people who say that the 'Not All Men' is stupid are stupid. I said that Tumblr started the NotAllMen hashtag as a way to say that men should shut up and accept that they're all oppressive pigs who should burn in hell. That's literally what it is. I used the women being obsessed with band members to show how sexist the NotAllMen statement is. Try reading my freaking comment before you go on at me about something entirely irrelevant, because I am a freaking feminist. I said that I don't like what the video could be implying because it fuels some people with more arguments about how all men oppress them and hate them and shouldn't exist. The NotAllMen hashtag is the most stupid trend I've ever seen on the Internet. Feminism is supposed to promote people expressing their feelings, but they're literally telling men to 'shut up and take it like a man' with that statement. It's sexist, stupid and it DID start on Tumblr. I've seen the post that started the trend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwingsrock Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 I don't know that I have ever seen a Muse music video that I would consider "good". That being said, this video was worth watching for the drone kick alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Song still sucks, video looks like CoD and the Hunger Games had an illegitimate child. Black Ops 3 comes out Friday. Also the last Hunger Games movie comes out this month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chryse Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 The bit where they throw gas into the crowd and Matt dons the gas mask is the best part. Otherwise, the video is just okay. The song and video will go down great here in America, for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 I'm assuming it's all fish-eyed because of the VR thing? Might have to try and snag the boyfriend's cell phone while he's sleeping and check it out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemsy Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 (edited) No, not all men. And I'm not gonna stop saying that because a few crazy kill-all-men Tumblr feminists started a hashtag because they simply can't stand any valid argument against half of their stupid claims. Just because women have been oppressed for thousands of years doesn't mean that now it's time for 'revenge' and men should start being portrayed as vile pigs that should be crucified. If I say "I'm sick of all women obsessing over band members", are you going to disagree with "Not all women do that", or is that just not being able to handle criticism? Seriously, hashtags and trends like that are so stupid and I'm sure it would have been started by a few teenage Tumblr users who have no clue about anything. The thing about these arguments though, is that people don't say 'all ...' in the first place. They say 'I'm sick of women obsessing over band members.' Then if people say 'I'm a woman and I don't obsess over band members' you have every right to laugh and say 'Then I'm not complaining about you am I, #notallwomen lol' Edited November 4, 2015 by Gemsy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemsy Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 I'm saying that people who say that the 'Not All Men' is stupid are stupid. I said that Tumblr started the NotAllMen hashtag as a way to say that men should shut up and accept that they're all oppressive pigs who should burn in hell. That's literally what it is. I used the women being obsessed with band members to show how sexist the NotAllMen statement is. Try reading my freaking comment before you go on at me about something entirely irrelevant, because I am a freaking feminist. I said that I don't like what the video could be implying because it fuels some people with more arguments about how all men oppress them and hate them and shouldn't exist. The NotAllMen hashtag is the most stupid trend I've ever seen on the Internet. Feminism is supposed to promote people expressing their feelings, but they're literally telling men to 'shut up and take it like a man' with that statement. It's sexist, stupid and it DID start on Tumblr. I've seen the post that started the trend. It started on Twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johi36 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 I'm assuming it's all fish-eyed because of the VR thing? Might have to try and snag the boyfriend's cell phone while he's sleeping and check it out... Yes. You can move your phone to see different parts of the screen. Like you're steering the drone and the screen is what you see through it. And where exactly is that bloody kick? I missed it the first time on my PC, and the second time I was distracted by my drone phone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 No, not all men. And I'm not gonna stop saying that because a few crazy kill-all-men Tumblr feminists started a hashtag because they simply can't stand any valid argument against half of their stupid claims. Just because women have been oppressed for thousands of years doesn't mean that now it's time for 'revenge' and men should start being portrayed as vile pigs that should be crucified. If I say "I'm sick of all women obsessing over band members", are you going to disagree with "Not all women do that", or is that just not being able to handle criticism? Seriously, hashtags and trends like that are so stupid and I'm sure it would have been started by a few teenage Tumblr users who have no clue about anything. I'm saying that people who say that the 'Not All Men' is stupid are stupid. I said that Tumblr started the NotAllMen hashtag as a way to say that men should shut up and accept that they're all oppressive pigs who should burn in hell. That's literally what it is. I used the women being obsessed with band members to show how sexist the NotAllMen statement is. Try reading my freaking comment before you go on at me about something entirely irrelevant, because I am a freaking feminist. I said that I don't like what the video could be implying because it fuels some people with more arguments about how all men oppress them and hate them and shouldn't exist. The NotAllMen hashtag is the most stupid trend I've ever seen on the Internet. Feminism is supposed to promote people expressing their feelings, but they're literally telling men to 'shut up and take it like a man' with that statement. It's sexist, stupid and it DID start on Tumblr. I've seen the post that started the trend. You're totally missing the point with the hashtag. It is usually used in a context where the speaker tries to defend himself from whatever was said about men. "Not all men. I don't do that". Which kills any productive discussion regarding issues with the male gender, such as an extreme history of oppression, as well as toxic behaviour which is promoted by the very same men. It's literally some guy who stops a debate about toxic gender roles simply to prove that he is a nice guy. It's also ironic that the people who complain about men being portrayed as oppressive pigs never seem to complain about negative female portrayals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Museic Syndrome Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 In a long time? If we're talking music videos only, not lyrics, I'd say the last good ones were only a couple of years back in The 2nd Law. Panic Station is just hilarious and doesn't take itself seriously, and I love both music videos for Animals, the animated fan one and the original one. What's the original one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 There isn't one so I assume he means the one they play on the screens at gigs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogles. Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 You're totally missing the point with the hashtag. It is usually used in a context where the speaker tries to defend himself from whatever was said about men. "Not all men. I don't do that". Which kills any productive discussion regarding issues with the male gender, such as an extreme history of oppression, as well as toxic behaviour which is promoted by the very same men. It's literally some guy who stops a debate about toxic gender roles simply to prove that he is a nice guy. It's also ironic that the people who complain about men being portrayed as oppressive pigs never seem to complain about negative female portrayals. What does any of this have to with Revolt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Why would I want to talk about Revolt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemsy Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 What does any of this have to with Revolt? It's a discussion about the female lead in the video Whom incidentally I didn't even notice, I don't know what that means Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogles. Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Why would I want to talk about Revolt? Because this is the Revolt single thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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