haze015 Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 It's true, Origin of Simetry doesn't contain any 'cheesy' songs, but the lyrics aren't that good as the lyrics from Resistance, except Feeling Good WHICH IS A COVER and definitly there's nothing cheesy on it. So stop complaining and go and read meanings of their songs. Sorry, but TR's lyrics are cringeworthy at best, sounds like a 13 year old who has discovered governments aren't good "WE WANT THE TRUTH" Then there's Micro Cuts, which is far, far more interesting & fucked up Nick Cave » The Curse Of Millhaven Lyrics Send “The Curse Of Millhaven” Ringtone to your Cell I live in a town called Millhaven And it's small and it's mean and it's cold But if you come around just as the sun goes down You can watch the whole town turn to gold It's around about then that I used to go a-roaming Singing La la la la La la la lie All God's children they all gotta die My name is Loretta but I prefer Lottie I'm closing in on my fifteenth year And if you think you have seen a pair of eyes more green Then you sure didn't see them around here My hair is yellow and I'm always a-combing La la la la La la la lie Mama often told me we all got to die You must have heard about The Curse Of Millhaven How last Christmas Bill Blake's little boy didn't come home They found him next week in One Mile Creek His head bashed in and his pockets full of stones Well, just imagine all the wailing and moaning La la la la La la la lie Even little Billy Blake's boy, he had to die Then Professor O'Rye from Millhaven High Found nailed to his door his prize-winning terrier Then next day the old fool brought little Biko to school And we all had to watch as he buried her His eulogy to Biko had all the tears a-flowing La la la la La la la lie Even God's little creatures, they have to die Our little town fell into a state of shock A lot of people were saying things that made little sense Then the next thing you know the head of Handyman Joe Was found in the fountain of the Mayor's residence Foul play can really get a small town going La la la la La la la lie Even God's children all have to die Then, in a cruel twist of fate, old Mrs Colgate Was stabbed but the job was not complete The last thing she said before the cops pronounced her dead Was, "My killer is Loretta and she lives across the street!" Twenty cops burst through my door without even phoning La la la la La la la lie The young ones, the old ones, they all gotta die Yes, it is I, Lottie. The Curse Of Millhaven I've struck horror in the heart of this town Like my eyes ain't green and my hair ain't yellow It's more like the other way around I gotta pretty little mouth underneath all the foaming La la la la La la la lie Sooner or later we all gotta die Since I was no bigger than a weavil they've been saying I was evil That if "bad" was a boot that I'd fit it That I'm a wicked young lady, but I've been trying hard lately O fuck it! I'm a monster! I admit it! It makes me so mad my blood really starts a-going La la la la La la la lie Mama always told me that we all gotta die Yeah, I drowned the Blakey kid, stabbed Mrs. Colgate, I admit Did the handyman with his circular saw in his garden shed But I never crucified little Biko, that was two junior high school psychos Stinky Bohoon and his friend with the pumpkin-sized head I'll sing to the lot, now you got me going La la la la La la la lie All God's children have all gotta die There were all the others, all our sisters and brothers You assumed were accidents, best forgotten Recall the children who broke through the ice on Lake Tahoo? Everyone assumed the "Warning" signs had followed them to the bottom Well, they're underneath the house where I do quite a bit of stowing La la la la La la la lie Even twenty little children, they had to die And the fire of '91 that razed the Bella Vista slum There was the biggest shit-fight this country's ever seen Insurance companies ruined, land lords getting sued All cause of wee girl with a can of gasoline Those flames really roared when the wind started blowing La la la la La la la lie Rich man, poor man, all got to die Well I confessed to all these crimes and they put me on trial I was laughing when they took me away Off to the asylum in an old black Mariah It ain't home, but you know, it's fucking better than jail It ain't such bad old place to have a home in La la la la La la la lie All God's children they all gotta die Now I got shrinks that will not rest with their endless Rorschach tests I keep telling them they're out to get me They ask me if I feel remorse and I answer, "Why of course! There is so much more I could have done if they'd let me!" So it's Rorschach and Prozac and everything is groovy Singing La la la la La la la lie All God's children they all have to die La la la la La la la lie I'm happy as a lark and everything is fine Singing La la la la La la la lie Yeah, everything is groovy and everything is fine Singing La la la la La la la lie All God's children they gotta die Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunatic59 Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 maybe you're right about microcuts...but sorry, plug in baby? ok, it's nice to sing this song when somebody's pissing me off:), but there's nothing interesting and fucked up in it, the same is it with space dementia, new born,...don't get me wrong, I like OoS very much and so do TR...I don't know I just started to look on everything from different perspective. And I was talking about 'Love' lyrics...you really can't compare Unintended to Undisclosed Desires or Guiding Light or I belong to you becouse they are much better, the way of writing is nicer and deeper...still Matt's not a poet, but all I want to say is, that you have nice love songs and cheesy love songs and that some songs have a deeper meaning although they maybe sound 'cheesy'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbroken_ideals Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 I don't know why are you complaining so much about Resistance. There's nothing wrong about it, it's their masterpeace and something Matt really wanted to do and was very exited about it (as he said in many interviews). Can't you see? This is a REAL MUSE. They're growing with each album musically and personally and lyrically. So don't expect matt will always write some hard rock tunes how he's disapointed about the world. And specially, don't expect every their album to be the same. You never know, what they're going to do next and that's the reason why they're so great and special. And I don't find songs like Resistance to be cheesy, there has been much progress in Matt's lyrics. I belong to you is a really good song and it definitly wasn't written for twilight...come on, the opera section from Samson and Delilah??? How on the earth can you say it was written for vampire movie. Maybe the lyrics from Neutron Star Collison aren't that good, but sorry, there are some much more terrible lyrics in Muse collection;). So, I agree, muse 'cheesyness' didn't start with Resistance, it started with Unintended. It's true, Origin of Simetry doesn't contain any 'cheesy' songs, but the lyrics aren't that good as the lyrics from Resistance, except Feeling Good WHICH IS A COVER and definitly there's nothing cheesy on it. So stop complaining and go and read meanings of their songs. Okay, firstly, just because TR is all classical and shit, doesn't mean it's their masterpiece. Absolution has always been their masterpiece, TR doesn't come close. What are you talking about? 99% of the OoS lyrics are far better and more interesting than the cheesy TR lyrics- OoS lyrics all have an unlikely, hidden meaning; Something really interesting beneath the surface. TR lyrics are so straightforward, like communicating with a child. Compare "Open minded, I'm sure I used to be so free" to "They will not control us, we will be victorious", or "I'd cut your name in my heart" to "Please me and show me how it's done". It doesn't compare. What you call "nice love songs" are just a bunch of uninteresting, cheesy pop songs. Sorry, but it's true. TR lyrics have nothing on anything post-BH&R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gretterati Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 Okay, firstly, just because TR is all classical and shit, doesn't mean it's their masterpiece. Absolution has always been their masterpiece, TR doesn't come close. What are you talking about? 99% of the OoS lyrics are far better and more interesting than the cheesy TR lyrics- OoS lyrics all have an unlikely, hidden meaning; Something really interesting beneath the surface. TR lyrics are so straightforward, like communicating with a child. Compare "Open minded, I'm sure I used to be so free" to "They will not control us, we will be victorious", or "I'd cut your name in my heart" to "Please me and show me how it's done". It doesn't compare. +5000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 Unintended is EPIC OH NO YOU DIDN'T! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niall Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 It is hard to tell tbh... You forgot Endlessly. That's the only love song Muse have done that I really like. It isn't like the others... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbroken_ideals Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 Endlessly That's brilliant It drives me to buggery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopix Posted May 27, 2010 Share Posted May 27, 2010 Endlessly is lame, like other Muse love songs. Some of them are awesome though such as: Unintended Sing for Absolution IBTY ect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superimposition Posted May 27, 2010 Share Posted May 27, 2010 Cheesy album songs; Unintended is average. FG is a cover FAWY is alright Endlessly is great, but seems a bit out of place. Invincible is a tad boring, but the solo is fantastic. GL is bad. So is IBTY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozza Posted May 27, 2010 Share Posted May 27, 2010 I'd like IBTY much more if it didn't have the french break-down in it. I actually like the groove of the verses and choruses but that bit just makes me cringe so much, it's like an in-joke I just don't find funny at all, some people love it, I just don't for some reason Also, people are allowed to have other opinions, so telling them to shut up because they're different to yours is very childish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemsy Posted May 27, 2010 Share Posted May 27, 2010 For those who say Muse's soft spot for cheesy love songs has led to their downfall, please refer to the following: Unintended Feeling Good Starlight This is not a new phenomenon. You can pretty much count on one every album (except Absolution for some reason -- and I can't really put Endlessly in that category). So can the complainers please not have a selective memory and forget about Muse's past cheesiness. It's always been there. This is nothing new. (by the way I don't mean to poke fun at these songs, they're all great imo) Endlessly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemsy Posted May 27, 2010 Share Posted May 27, 2010 It is hard to tell tbh... You forgot Endlessly. That's the only love song Muse have done that I really like. It isn't like the others... *hi5* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superimposition Posted May 27, 2010 Share Posted May 27, 2010 I'd like IBTY much more if it didn't have the french break-down in it. I actually like the groove of the verses and choruses but that bit just makes me cringe so much, it's like an in-joke I just don't find funny at all, some people love it, I just don't for some reason Also, people are allowed to have other opinions, so telling them to shut up because they're different to yours is very childish Matt's French is horrible. It really is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levus Posted May 27, 2010 Share Posted May 27, 2010 You forgot Endlessly. That's the only love song Muse have done that I really like. It isn't like the others... :3 It's great to see that Endlessly isn't completely hated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a-museing Posted May 27, 2010 Share Posted May 27, 2010 Cheese <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris D B Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 Am I the only person who likes unintended? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 Am I the only person who likes unintended? What makes you think that? There are a lot of people who like it in this thread. I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dockertae Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 I don't mind the cheesy stuff really, the only one I think is particularly subpar is FAWY. On the other hand IBTY is one of my favourite Muse tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareeh Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 Am I the only person who likes unintended? what a stupid thing to ask. i do but there's also the muse fans that like every single song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuutar Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 What's wrong with cheese? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jyrgen Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 What's wrong with cheese? It is (OFTEN) made of milk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VHBravo Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 What was matt thinking when he wrote feeling good.....starlight isn't that bad but what the hell was that about?!!?! it's on their album origin of symmtery haven't you heard it, and it was performed by MUSE I promise you, Matt didn't write that. It's from the musical Roar of the Greasepaint, Smell of the Crowd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgenstern Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 I'd like IBTY much more if it didn't have the french break-down in it. I actually like the groove of the verses and choruses but that bit just makes me cringe so much, it's like an in-joke I just don't find funny at all, some people love it, I just don't for some reason Also, people are allowed to have other opinions, so telling them to shut up because they're different to yours is very childish You just don't get it. It's not a joke at all, it's love in its purest form like screaming feeling, it's beyond logical understanding and just about emotions. But I think, to understand that completely you should be (or have been) deeply in love yourself. And probably he is:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze015 Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 You just don't get it. It's not a joke at all, it's love in its purest form like screaming feeling, it's beyond logical understanding and just about emotions. But I think, to understand that completely you should be (or have been) deeply in love yourself. And probably he is:) A lot of moments on TR sound a bit like in-jokes. I can't imagine a band existing without in-jokes. Karma Police by Radiohead was an in-joke amongst the band for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niall Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 Some of the jokes in IBTY are pretty blatant really. The lightning strike bit, the overdue bit, and probably Matt using "soul" rhymed with "whole", they're like in jokes with anyone who knows the band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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