Jobby Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Pfff, like there's ever any worthwhile discussion in this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 We're on a forum talking about a band. "Worthwhile" is pretty subjective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemsy Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 I think Carrot Fan appreciates the frustration from us though - she gets it. A few m8s were at Montreux and they can appreciate where the salt's coming from. Still a lot of people insisting we should think ourselves lucky we get missionary in the Facebook Musers group though. Dee's shutting them down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanp16 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Still a lot of people insisting we should think ourselves lucky we get missionary in the Facebook Musers group though. Dee's shutting them down Oooh link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 I think Carrot Fan appreciates the frustration from us though - she gets it. A few m8s were at Montreux and they can appreciate where the salt's coming from. Still a lot of people insisting we should think ourselves lucky we get missionary in the Facebook Musers group though. Dee's shutting them down I'm actually sad I'm missing that. What have I become? If she appreciates the frustration, why even write that, though? It wasn't exactly compassionate. Be appreciative for what you have gotten, and don't tell others how to feel about what they did or didn't get. That's some pretty basic shit, there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Like someone said (probably Serpent?), it's funny that it's mainly the people who went to these gigs that are saying "why can't you just be happy with what you got?". #RarityPriviledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 It's a sad little social experiment, really, that proves why society will never improve. :'( I did all the work of going to all the gigs, and had the money to do so, so why do YOU think you deserve a healthcare... I mean, rarity... handout? Lazy pigs. (Also, if you get nice things, I'm no longer a special snowflake...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 We should be grateful we get to discuss whether we should be grateful we get to see Muse live Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denise3112 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Room for middle ground? not to Fabri's post above, but SS TJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Room for middle ground? You mean kinda like being aware that Muse can't cater solely to hardcore fans, but thinking that it shouldn't be that hard to put a few rarities into every set instead of doing them all in one gig unannounced? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 No, he means the "middle ground" sex position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 What could be more middle ground than asking Muse to put one rarer song into every set? Or thinking it's disingenuous to tell people how to feel when you've gotten the best available and they got little or nothing, and maybe being compassionate (or silent) would be better? I've openly stated that I think it's hilariously inappropriate that the Europeans who got decent sets are cussing out a band because they didn't do a full Montreux set on the arena tour. That actually WOULD be a stupid thing for Muse to do. Playing Assassin, Butterflies, or something comparable (or CE or Bliss, if you're unlucky to be in the US,) is barely middle ground. It's such a tiny thing to ask for. Asking for Muse to donate 4-5 minutes to hardcore fans per gig being seen as "extreme" and unreasonable is kind of concerning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn. Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 #RarityPriviledge Japan>Switzerland>Europe>USA>Sweden Some people are chosen, some not, deal with it. (Or make yourself japanese citizens instead of all the whining). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denise3112 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 You mean kinda like being aware that Muse can't cater solely to hardcore fans, but thinking that it shouldn't be that hard to put a few rarities into every set instead of doing them all in one gig unannounced? Depends what you call rarities. Drones Europe had rarities. And Montreux wasn't really Drones. More a one off. I get the frustration of those who weren't there, but particularly those in the US....And yes, the US Drones tour looked lame. And yes there are too many of the pop regulars, (for my taste anyway). But that's not really what I mean. I mean the extreme fan against fan stuff. Like telling peeps in the US they should go to Europe to get better setlists. Not a good thing to say. Or claims of being shafted for not getting Futurism in Brighton. Disappointment (for how many?) gets escalated to a consensus view of being shafted. Also not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanp16 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 (edited) Or claims of being shafted for not getting Futurism in Brighton. You really don't fucking get it, do you? Edited July 20, 2016 by ryanp16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denise3112 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 You really don't fucking get it, do you? how unecessarily unpleasant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanp16 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 how unecessarily unpleasant. Sorry - I fixed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Asking for a rare song, considering the area, seems more than fair. And while sadly CE and Bliss are rare in the US, they're not in Europe. So while I would have killed for a lot of those Europe sets, it's also understandable that those songs aren't as big of a deal to them, and Assassin and Butterflies are requested, etc., after a gig gets all the rares. The UD/TaB rotation is a good European example. And the fan vs fan in this case has once again been initiated by someone who got what everyone is bitching about wanting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Depends what you call rarities. Drones Europe had rarities. And Montreux wasn't really Drones. More a one off. I get the frustration of those who weren't there, but particularly those in the US....And yes, the US Drones tour looked lame. And yes there are too many of the pop regulars, (for my taste anyway). But that's not really what I mean. I mean the extreme fan against fan stuff. Like telling peeps in the US they should go to Europe to get better setlists. Not a good thing to say. Or claims of being shafted for not getting Futurism in Brighton. Disappointment (for how many?) gets escalated to a consensus view of being shafted. Also not good. Which rarities exactly? Sure there were previously rare songs that showed up at 50% of the gigs at most (Like AP and TaB), but most songs only made a handful of appearances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 I do forget I was lucky Matt got too lazy to change the set in the latter US part and we got AP at least. Still wish I could have actually seen the piano, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frozenbanana Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Once we got past "Muse should make their setlists more consistent and play a couple more rarities each night", which we did ages ago, there really hasn't been much to say on this thread (other than , or something) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemsy Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 *grateful* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander DeLarge Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 But to some extent, they're effing right, we can't deny it. Just think about Turkish fans who now won't be able to see them, even after years and years, because of the disastrous socio-political situation they're in the middle of. (Some of them are mercilessly insulting the band because of this, but still.) My friend was deployed in Turkey for 7 months and trust me, the people of Turkey have far bigger problems than not being able to see a band. If my country were a literal war zone, I wouldn't want or expect my favorite band to come around either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemsy Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 perspective people at least u get a muse gig You should think yourself lucky you were born on earth and not somewhere with no oxygens Facetiousness aside, I'm sick of being told what I can't chat shit about online. I complained yesterday about people calling women 'females' and apparently people are offended about my being 'offended' - it was a brief post about a personal pet hate, not a call to arms. Being told 'More important things to worry about love' is the one thing that winds me up the most about the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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