UVB-76 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Literally love everything about it. Love the Morricone-ness (big fan of Morricone), love the guitar slides, love the middle section with the haunting vocals over the guitar, and I love the piano section (even though I was sure I wouldn't.) I think the problem with calling it a sequel to CE is that everyone was expecting another CE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destroya Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Love the track but noticing some clipping in the whistling and slide guitar parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 All 3 parts of Exo would not make a much more (if at all) cohesive song if they were cut down to fit under 10 minutes total. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopix Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 The verse section from about 3 to 5 minutes really is sublime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manualex Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 The verse section from about 3 to 5 minutes really is sublime. The part where Matt sings the "They laugh as they watch us fall" is so amazing, just a bit annoying that I cant remember the real lyrics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LewisF Posted June 8, 2015 Author Share Posted June 8, 2015 The part where Matt sings the "They laugh as they watch us fall" is so amazing, just a bit annoying that I cant remember the real lyrics That melody is great. I also really like the lyrics in the first part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 All 3 parts of Exo would not make a much more (if at all) cohesive song if they were cut down to fit under 10 minutes total.Not sure why it matters? Why would they need to be cut down? Was The Globalist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Yeah not sure the length means much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manualex Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 If anything this song is way too short to bring any coherent conclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunge Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 The Globalist is three minutes shorter than Exogenesis, but makes three times less sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Not sure why it matters? Why would they need to be cut down? Was The Globalist? Considering one of the biggest complaints of the middle section was its length and early cutoff. Each part of Exogensis had time to build and fade. Putting it into a single track (I think the vinyl transitions better) wouldn't change that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Considering one of the biggest complaints of the middle section was its length and early cutoff. Each part of Exogensis had time to build and fade. Putting it into a single track (I think the vinyl transitions better) wouldn't change that.But it was Muse's decision to do so, it wasn't as if they were forced to keep it at a maximum of 10 minutes, so not sure what you're making an argument for. And of course putting it into a single track wouldn't change that, who said it would? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 I see a big issue in the lack of cohesion in The Globalist as these unexpanded poorly transitioned parts. "the three parts of exogenesis make a lot more cohesive song than the three parts of the globalist though." And I say the three parts of Exo are more fleshed out serving as a fitting beginning middle and end with each part being satisfying. They're not really cohesive but this is why I would see it as at least a more cohesive song. Trying to compress Exogenesis into 2/3 of its running time might result in the same feeling of unexpanded sections that rushes through poorly paced. This could analogously be the same thing that happened with The Globalist. Not to say The Globalist started out as 3 longer songs but that each movement ends up feeling inconclusive as if it were 3 different songs chopped up and put together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Cohesion or not, The Globalist is still better than Exogenesis imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 I see a big issue in the lack of cohesion in The Globalist as these unexpanded poorly transitioned parts. "the three parts of exogenesis make a lot more cohesive song than the three parts of the globalist though." And I say the three parts of Exo are more fleshed out serving as a fitting beginning middle and end with each part being satisfying. They're not really cohesive but this is why I would see it as at least a more cohesive song. Trying to compress Exogenesis into 2/3 of its running time might result in the same feeling of unexpanded sections that rushes through poorly paced. This could analogously be the same thing that happened with The Globalist. Not to say The Globalist started out as 3 longer songs but that each movement ends up feeling inconclusive as if it were 3 different songs chopped up and put together. I'm with you up until that last part. I just don't see why this is even mentioned. Compressing The Globalist has never been mentioned, and there is no reason to believe that ever happened. Obviously The Globalist would have felt more cohesive if each part had more time to fit into the next, but that didn't happen. It's like saying T2L would have been more cohesive if they put more similar songs on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 there is no reason to believe that ever happened. I said that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopix Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Cohesion or not, The Globalist is still better than Exogenesis imo. It's up there, will probably mature in a positive way too, as I'm sure CE and Exogenesis have done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigGeorge Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 The Globalist really could have fit inside The Resistance pretty well, probably would have improved it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 It's more bhar than TR for me. No place for a western intro on the latter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alibros Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Cohesion or not, The Globalist is still better than Exogenesis imo. that's your opinion. . . . and incorrect! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 that's your opinion. . . . and incorrect! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 I said that.Yes but then why discuss this as if there is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 I don't know how else to say this. "Maybe the reason Exogenesis would seem like a more cohesive song put together is because each movement is more fulfilled than the movements of The Globalist." It was a passing unimportant thought. If it still seems confusing I'm dropping it anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 I don't know how else to say this. "Maybe the reason Exogenesis would seem like a more cohesive song put together is because each movement is more fulfilled than the movements of The Globalist." It was a passing unimportant thought. If it still seems confusing I'm dropping it anyways. No that makes total sense, what was confusing was the argument about cutting Exo down to 10 minutes in your first post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 You'd make a good thesis reviser I'll give you that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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