kueller Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 I wouldn't mind Glorious closing the main set, but not the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthijs Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 That would be as big an anti-climax as Starlight closing. I want to see Showbiz close again: http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/muse/2006/presquile-de-malsaucy-belfort-france-2bd7b432.html . Switch TIRO and PIB around and that's among Muse's best festival sets ever. Damn that is a hot setlist. Bootlegged? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forevermusic Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 That would be as big an anti-climax as Starlight closing. I want to see Showbiz close again: http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/muse/2006/presquile-de-malsaucy-belfort-france-2bd7b432.html . Switch TIRO and PIB around and that's among Muse's best festival sets ever. Starlight being 3rd in that setlist is also a bit strange. Saying that a set with Assassin and Showbiz would be incredible, nevermind also keeping all of MOTP, Hysteria, New Born (with Matt playing piano and at proper tempo) and Stockholm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
church Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 If TK can make When You Were Young a decent closer than certainly Muse could do it with Glorious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunge Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Nah, Starlight was a regular earlier in the sets during the first part of the BH&R tour - and it sounded really good too because it was so meaty. In fact, the Knights > Bliss > Starlight opening meant Matt used the same guitar for all three I think so it flowed really well too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tttBnbZ-IFU Everything sounds so meaty . Shame his tones went absolutely to shit for almost two years after this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forevermusic Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 If TK can make When You Were Young a decent closer than certainly Muse could do it with Glorious. In fairness WYWY is a big single and works with the fireworks, although Mr. Brightside feels better as a closer. Glorious, not so much. Nah, Starlight was a regular earlier in the sets during the first part of the BH&R tour - and it sounded really good too because it was so meaty. In fact, the Knights > Bliss > Starlight opening meant Matt used the same guitar for all three I think so it flowed really well too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tttBnbZ-IFU Everything sounds so meaty . Shame his tones went absolutely to shit for almost two years after this. That sounds a lot better than Starlight on HAARP and Live at Rome did, and also sounds closer to a heavier version of the album. Why did Muse change the tuning of it from later that year onwards? Maybe it looks weird from a 2014 perspective given what Starlight has morphed itself into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunge Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Songs tend to be most exciting the first time they're toured because they're yet to settle down into a kinda standard version. Hence why Knights sounds immensely boring these days because it's been pretty much exactly the same since the start of the TR tour. Starlight's just got worse and worse and worse though. If it was like the above live these days, I wouldn't mind it being in the set at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 I think Knights peaked, on average, during The Resistance tour though. Putting aside the whole closing-every-gig thing it sounded incredibly huge compared to a lot of recordings I've heard during the BH&R era. I surely enjoyed it every time from 09 to 11 while I don't remember much of it from the T2L gig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 I think Knights peaked, on average, during The Resistance tour though. Putting aside the whole closing-every-gig thing it sounded incredibly huge compared to a lot of recordings I've heard during the BH&R era. I surely enjoyed it every time from 09 to 11 while I don't remember much of it from the T2L gig. Agreed. 2010 had the best KoC performances. The vocal effects added so much. But yeah generally the performances of songs are more energetic and fun during the first tour, but they have usually figured out the best tones, riff varieties etc during the second tour. After that it's usually a bit boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 I doubt they'll ever top the Fuji 2010 Knights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 I doubt they'll ever top the Fuji 2010 Knights. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
church Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 In fairness WYWY is a big single and works with the fireworks, although Mr. Brightside feels better as a closer. Glorious, not so much. Nah, add a nice big bombastic outro on the end and it'd be great as a closer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 +1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAyrPurTh-I even MWAH feels better here... Those drums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forevermusic Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAyrPurTh-I even MWAH feels better here... Those drums. The drums on the pro-recordings from that gig are awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frakkles Posted May 21, 2014 Author Share Posted May 21, 2014 Stop ruining the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heyjackk Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 What's He Building In There Intro Supremacy Supermassive Black Hole Map of the Problematique - Who Knows Who Riff Hysteria Invincible (I love this song ok) Fury Assassin DMG Version Citizen Erased Sunburn Hoodoo Space Dementia Bliss extended w falsetto Time is Running Out City of Delusion Knights Of Cydonia Dead Star Micro Cuts Stockholm Syndrome Agitated - Freedom riff Take A Bow Plug In Baby Showbiz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthijs Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Regarding Eurockeennes: Is that clicky sound the bass drum??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunge Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 I think so, it's very high in the mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectrum IV Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 Top picks from 5 songs you want to see live at least once 1. Take a Bow 2. Assassin (DMG outro) 3. Dead Star 4. Hyper Music 5. The Small Print 6. Citizen Erased 7. Space Dementia (guitar outro) 8. Butterflies & Hurricanes 9. City of Delusion 10. Fury 11. Bliss 12. Hate This and I’ll Love You 13. Glorious 14. Sing For Absolution 15. Muscle Museum 16. Showbiz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamsUprising Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 (edited) Revised Setlist. Much shorter than last time. Main Set What's He Building? 1. Dead Star (Micro Cuts Outro) 2. The Small Print/Uno 3. Hysteria 4. Citizen Erased - Take A Bow Interlude 5. Space Dementia 6. Falling Down (Piano)/Cave (Piano) 7. Megalomania/Apocalypse Please 8. Endlessly 9. Darkshines 10. Muscle Museum 11. Futurism/Fury/The Groove/In Your World 12. City Of Delusion 13. Time Is Running Out (Host Intro) 14. Unnatural Selection 15. Agitated Encore 1 16. Soldier's Poem 17. Unintended (Electric) 18. Blackout Encore 2 The 2nd Law: Isolated System (Short Version) 19. Showbiz (Ashamed Outro) 20. Uprising 21. Survival Encore 3 22. Exogenesis: Overture 23. Stockholm Syndrome (Crazy Days Riffage) 24. Hyper Chondriac Music Edited and cleaned up at the very insistent request of frackles or whatever his/her name is. I am not removing encore 1 as I believe there should be a sort of calm before the storm. Update: Keeping this set on the thread whether you like it or not. Edited May 26, 2014 by AdamsUprising Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DifferentPerson Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 It's good up until the encore, then Wtf. Also I'm assuming US/Yes Please is a mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frakkles Posted May 25, 2014 Author Share Posted May 25, 2014 (edited) Encore 1 is just boring and unnecessary. Absolutely NOTHING encore worthy happens (except for the Blackout riff which is only good if Matt actually plays it). Encore 2 is a mess. You have a build song that has a relatively big climax flowing into another build song that has an even bigger climax into a song that pretty much keeps up the same pace all song into a good encore closer. The flow just doesn't work. Showbiz into City Of Delusion just doesn't work. If you want to follow Showbiz up with something in an encore, it has to be a beefy, riffy song (Stockholm Syndrome for example). COD just doesn't fit. Survival as the encore closer is fine and IS is fine as an opener too (though I hate IS in sets because it's rather boring live). The third encore just needs reshaping. Overture->Uprising->Stockholm->HCM. 3 Encores in general is just overkill. As far as the US/Yes Please thing goes, it's a horrible rotation. Just compare the two songs. One is a mediocre B-Side that's like 3 and a bit minutes long and the other is one of Muse best live songs and tops 7 minutes live. That's about as constructive I can get before I start raging and getting infractions. Edited May 25, 2014 by Frakkles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DifferentPerson Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Thanks Frakkles <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthijs Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 That's about as constructive I can get before I start raging and getting infractions. Very good (and: actually constructive) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frakkles Posted May 26, 2014 Author Share Posted May 26, 2014 Then why even bother asking for feedback? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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