FabriPav Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 In your opinion. You could say exactly the same about IS and yet you love it to the point of overrating it. Of course it's my opinion. And since when loving something = overrating it? And if you find IS 2 minutes too long, fair enough. And at least it's not the same all the way through (with just a key change near the end) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The2ndwub Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 The Small Print The Small Print is criminally overrated and is in my view one of the best songs they've ever done do you know what thread this is ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangeseas Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 wat do you know what thread this is ? It's obvious that he/she meant underrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 It's obvious that he/she meant underrated. I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangeseas Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 I know. No u You get the same treatment as The2ndwub And since when loving something = overrating it? And if you find IS 2 minutes too long, fair enough. And at least it's not the same all the way through (with just a key change near the end) Overrating/underrating is an opinion. There is no such thing as objectively overrated/underrated. For example: A casual fan may think CE is underrated whereas a hardcore muser could argue that it is overrated. It's a matter of perspective. I said you overrated it, because you gave the song more credit than it deserves imo. @ Explorers argument: Do you really want to deny that is has an actual build up? Check out Fantano's review of T2L again. Yes, it has a key change, but it works nicely, because it isn't an overused component in Muse songs. IS uses the same piano phrase the whole 5 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 The Small Print is criminally overrated Agreed. Also, I don't get all the hate for Explorers. It's not one of there best or anything like that but I don't get how it can be boring when it seems to progress nicely throughout the song It doesn't really progress into anything interesting though, does it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 If you call Explorers' one a buildup... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 Overrating/underrating is an opinion. There is no such thing as objectively overrated/underrated. For example: A casual fan may think CE is underrated whereas a hardcore muser could argue that it is overrated. It's a matter of perspective. I said you overrated it, because you gave the song more credit than it deserves imo. @ Explorers argument: Do you really want to deny that is has an actual build up? Check out Fantano's review of T2L again. Yes, it has a key change, but it works nicely, because it isn't an overused component in Muse songs. IS uses the same piano phrase the whole 5 minutes. The irony of adding "in your opinion" to someone's post and then giving them a lesson on opinions after having to explain that what you previously said was just your opinion. I really don't think Fabri needs a lesson on opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangeseas Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 I really don't think Fabri needs a lesson on opinions. Attention from Sippe <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picko Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 The Small Print City Of Delusion Exogenesis Pt 3: Redemption Escape Hate This & I'll Love You Was tempted to put In Your World in there too. Quite a short and basic song but it's still a catchy number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nipso Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 Explorers is beautiful, it doesn't need to build to anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will_ Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 Easily Easily Easily Easily Easily Easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJUltra Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 wat How is Explorers ruined by poor placement on the sets? Where would you put it? It's just plain boring and 2 minutes too long. It's decent-ish on the album but it's definitely the last song I'd want see at a Muse gig. Sorry I meant that The Small Print was underrated And personally I can see where your coming from with explorers being too long but I don't think it deserves all the hate it gets. Regarding sets I wouldn't put it after Knights I would put it in the middle of the piano songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Assassin Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 City of Delusion Futurism Shrinking Universe Exogenesis Symphony Part 3: Redemption Darkshines Although Exo-Politics, Con-Science and Twin are all quite underrated too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domaaa Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Sorry I meant that The Small Print was underrated And personally I can see where your coming from with explorers being too long but I don't think it deserves all the hate it gets. Regarding sets I wouldn't put it after Knights I would put it in the middle of the piano songs. Considering they only play 2 piano songs it would be pretty hard to get it in the middle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJUltra Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 I was thinking about stadiums where they play Eurasia/Sunburn and Feeling Good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 I was thinking about stadiums where they play Eurasia/Sunburn and Feeling Good So your suggestion is to play Explorers instead of Dead Star/Butterflies/Hysteria. Right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJUltra Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Nope I'm saying move that rotation until after Feeling Good and before Follow Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 I was thinking about stadiums where they play Eurasia/Sunburn and Feeling Good Wait, are you suggesting they play Explores and Feeling Good...next to each other? Mother of god... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJUltra Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Wait, are you suggesting they play Explores and Feeling Good...next to each other? Mother of god... Well personally I would prefer that than its current placement even if it is not ideal. It's just my opinion though I understand everyones opinion is going to be different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Yeah why not going for Soldier's Poem into Invincible into Follow Me into UD into Explorers into Feeling Good into Guiding Light Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJUltra Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Yeah why not going for Soldier's Poem into Invincible into Follow Me into UD into Explorers into Feeling Good into Guiding Light Well I would rather Explorers didn't get played all together but if it does I would rather be before Feeling Good. I understand where your coming from though but the setlist can't be perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zolic Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Yeah why not going for Soldier's Poem into Invincible into Follow Me into UD into Explorers into Feeling Good into Guiding Light Into Resistance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Hate This & I'll Love You Screenager City Of Delusion Ruled By Secrecy Uno EDIT: And oh god yes, the outro to Spiral Static is insane. Always thought Shrinking Universe was a good song too. Screenager, RBS and Shrinking Universe definitely I would say City of Delusion definitely as well, but I swear a lot of people do say how good it is which I guess doesn't make it underrated? Is good though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TERZi Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Hmph. Cave (is it even underrated?) Futurism Ruled By Secrecy City Of Delusion The Small Print Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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