That Little Animal Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 2 hours ago, Timbo59 said: Matt was on the subreddit (and got banned lol). If you're curious on some of his takes on politics that inspired the album's lyrics. https://www.reddit.com/r/Muse/comments/v6b2pn/summary_of_uwillthehacker2022_activity_on_rmuse/ If that’s indeed Matt then I’m glad he’s on Reddit and Twitter and not on the board. Because this place is so dead I feel that old grumps like me are overrepresented here, which makes this place even more negative and critical than it traditionally already was. But hey, Matt, we’re also engaged in discussing the topics you’re singing about, isn’t that what you wanted? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudia O Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 Maybe he‘s here lately, and we didn‘t know 👀👻👽 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen_Eraser Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 9 hours ago, Timbo59 said: WOTP is my new worst Muse song. I hate everything about it. At least KOBK sounds promising. I think thats jumping the gun a bit. Its super repetitive and doesn't have too much going for it. But don't forget that Aftermath, Revolt and GUAF exist. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Little Animal Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Claudia O said: Maybe he‘s here lately, and we didn‘t know 👀👻👽 They know it’s not a pleasant experience to visit this place. Maybe only when they’re in a masochistic mood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silentgod86 Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 Probably got locked out of his account when the forum upgraded. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudia O Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Citizen_Eraser said: I think thats jumping the gun a bit. Its super repetitive and doesn't have too much going for it. But don't forget that Aftermath, Revolt and GUAF exist. You forgot Neutron Star Collision … Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudia O Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 Well, Kill or be killed and Won’t stand down are full of anger …. the Muse-boys can come here now 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbo59 Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 12 hours ago, Citizen_Eraser said: I think thats jumping the gun a bit. Its super repetitive and doesn't have too much going for it. But don't forget that Aftermath, Revolt and GUAF exist. The 'will of the people' line just rubs me the wrong way. Super annoying and way too similar to the beautiful people. Those other three songs aren't as annoying to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silentgod86 Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 Question is WOTP the most lack lustre opening track? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankly_tart Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 5 hours ago, Silentgod86 said: Question is WOTP the most lack lustre opening track? It’s the worst opening track to any of their albums for sure. It’s ok, but it’s not great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen_Eraser Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 8 hours ago, Timbo59 said: The 'will of the people' line just rubs me the wrong way. Super annoying and way too similar to the beautiful people. Those other three songs aren't as annoying to me. Oh yeah true. Honestly when we heard the snippet I was hoping that would just be for the intro. Not driving the entire song. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Little Animal Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 9 hours ago, Timbo59 said: The 'will of the people' line just rubs me the wrong way. Super annoying and way too similar to the beautiful people. Those other three songs aren't as annoying to me. It's their worst opener for sure, bumping Supremacy off that spot. I'm very curious how they justify the Will of the People chant's similarity to the beautiful people. It's not possible not a single band member or person involved in creating the album didn't notice the similarity. So either they asked permission, they consulted a music lawyer to make sure it was different enough, or they're gambling that they'll get away with it. It seems that about a fourth of the FB comments under the post with the song's video are jokes about copyright infringement. We all know Muse likes to "borrow", so this is nothing new. But jeeeezz has their source of 'inspiration' taken a dive with Manson. Rachmaninoff, Bach, Tchaikovski, RaTM, John Williams, Vangelis, Marilyn Manson. Speaking of borrowing, I just watched Squid Game for the first time and now I know where the WoTP mask and outfit inspiration came from. Though interestingly in that show it's the elites in power who mask up, not the oppressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbo59 Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 Yeah I also caught how similar those masks were. Also curious on their rationale behind the 'will of the people' line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Little Animal Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 7 minutes ago, Timbo59 said: Yeah I also caught how similar those masks were. Yup, seems like Matt was watching tv during the lockdown and was ‘inspired’ by what he watched, both fiction and non-fiction. So which song will be about Tiger King? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silentgod86 Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 (edited) Simulation Theory's audio and visual design is pretty much Stranger Things. (To the point where they got Stranger Things poster artist to make the album cover) Anyone want to pitch in and get Matt an Apple Plus account? Wouldn't mind a track or two about For All Mankind or Mythic Quest. Edited June 8, 2022 by Silentgod86 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Little Animal Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 7 minutes ago, Silentgod86 said: Simulation Theory's audio and visual design is pretty much Stranger Things. (To the point where they got Stranger Things poster artist to make the album cover) Anyone want to pitch in and get Matt an Apple Plus account? Wouldn't mind a track or two about For All Mankind or Mythic Quest. Severance is where it’s at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozza Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 19 hours ago, That Little Animal said: It's their worst opener for sure, bumping Supremacy off that spot. I'm very curious how they justify the Will of the People chant's similarity to the beautiful people. It's not possible not a single band member or person involved in creating the album didn't notice the similarity. So either they asked permission, they consulted a music lawyer to make sure it was different enough, or they're gambling that they'll get away with it. It seems that about a fourth of the FB comments under the post with the song's video are jokes about copyright infringement. We all know Muse likes to "borrow", so this is nothing new. But jeeeezz has their source of 'inspiration' taken a dive with Manson. Rachmaninoff, Bach, Tchaikovski, RaTM, John Williams, Vangelis, Marilyn Manson. Speaking of borrowing, I just watched Squid Game for the first time and now I know where the WoTP mask and outfit inspiration came from. Though interestingly in that show it's the elites in power who mask up, not the oppressed. The Psycho riff always makes me think of Disposable Teens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternallyPissed Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 20 hours ago, That Little Animal said: It's their worst opener for sure, bumping Supremacy off that spot. I'm very curious how they justify the Will of the People chant's similarity to the beautiful people. It's not possible not a single band member or person involved in creating the album didn't notice the similarity. So either they asked permission, they consulted a music lawyer to make sure it was different enough, or they're gambling that they'll get away with it. It seems that about a fourth of the FB comments under the post with the song's video are jokes about copyright infringement. We all know Muse likes to "borrow", so this is nothing new. But jeeeezz has their source of 'inspiration' taken a dive with Manson. Rachmaninoff, Bach, Tchaikovski, RaTM, John Williams, Vangelis, Marilyn Manson. Speaking of borrowing, I just watched Squid Game for the first time and now I know where the WoTP mask and outfit inspiration came from. Though interestingly in that show it's the elites in power who mask up, not the oppressed. I don't know. I think a decent percentage of the public has long viewed Marilyn Manson as style over substance, but the guy has been cranking out records for 30 years. It takes a lot more than simply shock appeal to last three decades in the music industry. In my opinion, his stage persona has long overshadowed his musical ability, and he's been extremely underrated as a musician as a result. Not only that, but assuming "The Beautiful People" was a key influence for "Will of the People," it wouldn't be the first time it sounded as though Muse was inspired musically by Manson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternallyPissed Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 I'll take it upon myself to be the outcast. I love "Will of the People" and think it's far from the worst opening track in the band's catalog (I actually love all 9 opening tracks). Here's how the outcast would rank them, in descending order: 9. Take a Bow 8. Apocalypse Please 7. Supremacy 6. Uprising 5. Sunburn 4. Dead Inside 3. Will of the People 2. Algorithm 1. New Born Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunge Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 Take A Bow ninth and AP eighth? Get out. I prefer WOTP to Uprising, Supremacy and Algorithm, for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternallyPissed Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 8 minutes ago, Clunge said: Take A Bow ninth and AP eighth? Get out. I prefer WOTP to Uprising, Supremacy and Algorithm, for sure. lol, yep. Great tracks, but definitely my least favorite of the 9. I probably would have ranked "Uprising" at the bottom a few years ago, due to it getting overplayed to death, but it's grown on me again. I love "Algorithm," though. It's my favorite song off "Simulation Theory" by a fairly substantial margin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Little Animal Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 2 hours ago, EternallyPissed said: I'll take it upon myself to be the outcast. I love "Will of the People" and think it's far from the worst opening track in the band's catalog (I actually love all 9 opening tracks). Here's how the outcast would rank them, in descending order: 9. Take a Bow 8. Apocalypse Please 7. Supremacy 6. Uprising 5. Sunburn 4. Dead Inside 3. Will of the People 2. Algorithm 1. New Born 1. New Born 2. Sunburn 3. Take a Bow 4. AP 5. Algorithm 6. Uprising 7. Dead Inside (Great song, better than 5 and 6, but not a great opener for me.) 8. Supremacy 9. WOTP (Time will tell if it's a better opener in the context of the album. For now, I'm not a fan.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silentgod86 Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 (Cheat number 1: Dead Star) 1. Sunburn 2. Take a Bow 3. Apocalypse Now 4. New Born 5. Algorithm 6. Uprising 7. Dead Inside 8. Supremacy (Really should have been Unsustainable) 9. WOTP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankly_tart Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 1. Take A Bow 2. New Born 3. Sunburn 4. Dead Inside 5. Supremacy 6. Algorithm 7. Apocalypse Please 8. Uprising 9. WOTP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbo59 Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 On 6/9/2022 at 5:19 PM, EternallyPissed said: I'll take it upon myself to be the outcast. I love "Will of the People" and think it's far from the worst opening track in the band's catalog (I actually love all 9 opening tracks). Here's how the outcast would rank them, in descending order: 9. Take a Bow 8. Apocalypse Please 7. Supremacy 6. Uprising 5. Sunburn 4. Dead Inside 3. Will of the People 2. Algorithm 1. New Born Blasphemy. TAB is number 1! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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