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Silentgod86

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  1. Can you cut out the personal insults? This is not the time to be abusing people online. We're all a bit stressed right now so it would be nice if you didn't use me as an avenue to work out your own frustrations. Thanks
  2. The answer to all your questions is that this is a Muse forum and if we can't complain about inconsequential things here, where can we go (I refuse to go to Reddit). My original post was pretty ineffectual before you paid it more attention than it honestly deserved. I could argue more but I never intended to troll someone into getting so irate. I apologise I've upset you and will think not just twice but three times when posting here.
  3. Easily staggered then. It's not as if I'm directly tweeting the band or shouting that I'll boycott future releases. It was Tom Kirk that hinted/promised that the full gig would be released. That's where the expectation came from so this release is a step down from that. I'm not sure if it's true to say that fans have been explicitly asking for just the 2nd encore for 7 years either. And yes there have been times I've been underwhelmed by gifts and as I've done here, not pushed it directly into the givers face. So you say that £120 is not exactly extortionate but then say £60 is massively expensive. Odd... My point is that a lot of fans were priced out of the collection due to its marketing strategy especially those in less prosperous parts of the world. Personally I can easily pay £120 but I recognise I'm lucky. £120 is a lot more expensive for fans in Brazil or Mexico than it is the UK or US. It's not unreasonable to gripe that Muse should have released OOM the same way they released the last four albums, with a tiered release structure. This gives greater access to fans, and it puts more money back into Muse which rewards the hard work that went into the release. The only people who would lose out are people like me who would have one less thing to moan about. Unnecessarily wanky in relation to Muse? I'll take that as a compliment!
  4. Good to see the band doubling down by releasing not one but two Zepp Tokyo Panic Station t-shirts....
  5. The problem with OOM could have easily been fixed by also releasing a CD only package for £60 at most. Not everyone is interested in coloured vinyls or paying for them just to get access to the new material. This is something that other bands do for such releases (and Muse do with their new releases), so I'm hoping Muse or their marketing come to their senses and re-issue a less extravagant package in the near future.
  6. I think your argument would hold more water if Tom Kirk didn't troll fans on the Zepp gig for so long. Muse aren't obligated to put anything out, ever. I get that. But as a fan, I'm sick of Muse missing open goals. I agree it's not really valid comparing to other bands, but Radiohead have been on a roll lately making their music and art available for all via their Public Library, whereas Muse seem to throw out a single pro shot (or less) once a year and puts Origin of Muse behind an expensive package and limited release. After 19 years it would be nice to get more than a bone and I'm more interested in Muse's music than laughing at them wearing funny sunglasses ... In terms of gratitude, I express it by buying albums and attending gigs, not by refusing to share my opinion when I don't like what they're doing, on a board that they might only occasionally browse. It's hard to excited about a Pro Shot of Panic Station... Plus it's a discussion board, if people didn't moan, and others moan and people moaning, this board would be dead...oh wait...
  7. XI'll give you Eyes but does anyone really need another video of Starlight and Supermassive Blackhole? My memory was that the first part of the gig got more attention given the setlist included Fury, Futurism, Microcuts, Hyper Music, Dead Star, Yes Please and Agitated. You can dress up Panic Station in costumes but it's still Panic Station...
  8. What Muse fans want - Zepp gig in full What Muse thinks fans want - 10 minutes of footage of the band trying on sunglasses, and four heavily setlisted songs from rarites gig... I wish I was a bigger Radiohead fan, they're getting regular uploads of full gigs into YouTube...
  9. Mark Beaumont nominating himself I see...
  10. Well Matt's basic response to a fan requesting something is to inform that fans don't really want it...
  11. I'm talking more about Music rather than physical media. 95% of fans aren't collectors so packaging the vinyls with the CDs have made them unaffordable for some. Take account that hours after I made my post, Radiohead launched their public library sharing quite alot of music, videos, artwork for free which puts the creativity up front rather than the physical media with a scare supply. Nothing stops Muse from doing something similar.
  12. While I'm happy some new material has come out, I'm sort of disappointed by the lack of era specific live material. For those old enough to remember, Muse made their reputation as a live band before gaining critical or commercial success. 2000-2002 was the peak of their live performances, Matt ad-libbed like hell and was too young to worry about his voice, and it's not reflected in this compilation bar from three or four Astoria 2000 songs. Granted, a lot of this stuff is available on youtube but it would have been nice to have a properly mastered CD containing highlights from Eurocockenees de Belfort 2000, Bizarre 2000 and La Route Du Rock 2001, or even a DVD considering how expensive the boxset is. And no Plus in Baby acoustic? Come on!
  13. Can someone comment in the OoS instrumental demos? Anything interesting in there?
  14. I type this as my cat is sitting on my chest so please forgive any typos. HAT, I meant the rest of OoS was recorded during late 2000 and early 2001, nothing less, nothing more. That time period. The recordings of Bliss and Plug in Baby are quite different to the live versions that preceded them, hence they were re-arranged in studio. Listen to PiB in the video I linked from late 2000, or even read the comments for that matter, it sounds like the album version, not what they had been playing for most of 2000 prior to the Bottril sessions. Yes, the band tried to capture their live sound for the OoS sessions but that's a different issue to how the songs are composed. I don't think we're disagreeing here but you're mis-interpreting a lot of things I've written. edit: I'm currently just four miles from real world studios!
  15. Oh stupid me, I bloody forgot, Futurism was produced by Bottrill, so that must be what "The Other" is above.
  16. Okay here's the timeline (which is quite clear on the musewiki page for origin): October 2000, Muse go into the sudio with Bottrill. PiB, NB, DS, Bliss and possibly some other song, are recorded while the band were high on Mushrooms. Some songs like PiB and Bliss are re-arranged from the versions the band had being played live. Late October 2000, Muse go back on tour with PiB played with the OoS album arrangement rather than the showbiz tour arrangement. Refer to: Late 2000-Early 2001, Muse return to the studio with John Cornfield and remix (not re-record) the songs from the David Botttrill sessions owing too many overdubs and poor mixing. The rest of the album is recorded and mixed during this time. I honestly don't see where there is definitive proof of OoS demo's being left on the cutting room floor though I think it's a great shame there is no disc with the 2000 era live performances of OoS material but alas youtube has plenty of that material anyway.
  17. They are the recordings on OoS but different mixes with a couple of overdubs. The late 2000 live versions are based on these. You can find the club Quattro Gig on YouTube and listen for yourself. The other MM is the 2nd single release which should be available somewhere on YouTube. There's also another take on one of the showbiz b-sides. For Bliss PiB and Newborn demos, there are numerous good quality live versions widely available. It's a shame the live versions aren't on the box set, I'd much prefered remastered versions of those as opposed to reading 2011.
  18. I don't think these are Demo's. OoS was being recorded during this period. I assume these are from the David Bothril session who's credited with producing NewBorn, Bliss, Plug In Baby and Darkshines. I woonder if one of the PiB mixes is of 2000 -era version of the song. No idea what the other is though.....
  19. Well Christmas is the usual time for these things, gifts and all that. Though knowing Matt I can see it delayed further. They were talking about packaging in last December....
  20. Why's that? ( I'm beginning like origin of Muse is becoming akin to Chinese Democracy....)
  21. wow, that's pretty shit really though the Psycho video from Glasgow is a thing of beauty.....
  22. Seems a bit light at 20 minutes. Anyone find any easter eggs?
  23. It doesn't really fit. It reminds me of that bit in interstellar where the female scientist says something like "Love is the one thing we’re capable of perceiving that transcends dimensions of time and space." It just sounds so out of place. If love was the key, it would have set him free. The system didn't make the protagonist stop loving anymore, his love stops because he gets rejected and then he joins the system for some vague reason. Love doesn't really gets mentioned until 'aftermath' which seems a bit tacked on if you ask me. For me this so called love story doesn't really fit in with the narrative. If you look at 1984, love flourishes in spite of the system but is then used to crush the protagonist. That makes sense in terms of the over arching theme of the book.
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