no3chris Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 yeah but that whammy thing didnt sound really the same. it was close though, i know its possible with an octaver - pitch shifter with sequencing though but how would you keep that in time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dramatic Hammer Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 Click track or tap tempo - the same way they keep the Bliss arps. in time.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3chris Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 ohh nooo, i mean like well.. i dunoo what i mean, void that lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simno Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 Nah, I was wrong, blatently a guitar effect. Simno managed to get something very similar sounding, can't remember how he did it. Its a kaoss pad pre-set its a "bpm" effect that basically uses a wierd kinda dancey tremelo effect with a bit of phase too... then put through the whammy first time I think +1 octave down and then shifted to +1 octave up plus the original signal... thing is I can't get the EXACT rhythm. I also saw some guy (sorry if someone else has posted this I only noticed this thread now) but on You tube someone is using a Digitech step-phase effect which sounds pretty much dead on at first in the recording, but gets worse (might just be the playing though ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuz Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 Its a kaoss pad pre-set its a "bpm" effect that basically uses a wierd kinda dancey tremelo effect with a bit of phase too... then put through the whammy first time I think +1 octave down and then shifted to +1 octave up plus the original signal... thing is I can't get the EXACT rhythm. I also saw some guy (sorry if someone else has posted this I only noticed this thread now) but on You tube someone is using a Digitech step-phase effect which sounds pretty much dead on at first in the recording, but gets worse (might just be the playing though ) i have that digitch pedal (x-series hyper phase) and its step-phase sounds does sound pretty similar though i'm pretty sure the real thing is like you said, basically a sequenced sample&hold filter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YellowSphere Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 I thought it was something on the Kaoss Pad too. Failing that I thought it could well be using the kill switch to get the chopping right, but I haven't seen any live videos and apparently this is not the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splinter Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 I have a question about Butterflies & Hurricanes. What kind of flange/phrase effect does he use for the intro live? You know the: "Change, everything you are, and everything you were" part. I want to use a boss flanger for this, anyone got some settings for me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze015 Posted September 26, 2006 Author Share Posted September 26, 2006 I have a question about Butterflies & Hurricanes. What kind of flange/phrase effect does he use for the intro live? You know the: "Change, everything you are, and everything you were" part. I want to use a boss flanger for this, anyone got some settings for me? MXR Phase 90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splinter Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 MXR Phase 90 Yah I thought that was the one, its built into his silver manson innit? Can it be recreated with a flanger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_and_tv Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze015 Posted September 26, 2006 Author Share Posted September 26, 2006 Flanging and Phasing are two different things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_and_tv Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dramatic Hammer Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 But at certain settings they sound pretty much the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_and_tv Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 yep...ish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisemaster Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 Hello Everyone, This is my first post. I'm a guitarist and percussionist for 10 years and I've just get an electric guitar to play some Muse song. I have a question about the B-Side Hyper Chondriac Music : I would like to know what is the FX effect at the beginning and at the end of this song, it sounds like a siren or something like that. I hope you will answer me. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 there's some fuzz factory oscillation in there and the ending is delay speed and time being messed around with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisemaster Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 Thank for your answer I see... I have a fuzz factory but I can't find this sound. Do you know the setting ? Because I really love this FX sound Thank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 the noise at the end is delay with infinite repeats and turn the delay time up and down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisemaster Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 Phill, can you tell me more about the sound at the beginning ? And what does Matthew use for the end with the delay you said ? thank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 sound at the beginning? isn't it just acoustic guitar? i'll listen a sec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze015 Posted September 26, 2006 Author Share Posted September 26, 2006 For the siren sounds, a Probe is probably better, because when you use the probe, you don't get all the hiss and stuff like you get when you move the Stab on the FF (Turning the Stab on the Probe is exactly the same), then add some delay or reverb, or both, then turn the Stab control/move your hand over the probe while turning the pedal on and off. Sounds at the end, don't assume it's a DL4, because Matt will have access to more pedals in the studio, afterall, they used Echoplex's on Absolution, but he used an Echo Pro for touring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveno1 Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 Just got my whammy pedal, and im messing around with fury at the moment. Im using a fuzz factory, digitech whammy and zoom multi effects pedal. Now wat i was wondering is... Does matt definately use the fuzz factory in this song? I know u rock pedal harmony octave setting but is that with FF on as well instead of distortion? Anyone know the delay time also? And when its verse when guitar goes down an octave does FF stay on then? And is it on alone or with the delay still on a little? Any help would be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 Hmmm i'd use a fairly quick delay time with a few repeats, no delay in the verse. sounds better with fuzz for the riff and the verses but switch to crisper distortion for the chorus so the harmony up sounds clearer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze015 Posted October 9, 2006 Author Share Posted October 9, 2006 Hmmm i'd use a fairly quick delay time with a few repeats, no delay in the verse. sounds better with fuzz for the riff and the verses but switch to crisper distortion for the chorus so the harmony up sounds clearer Just switch between the neck and bridge pickups, saves switching pedals then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 ooh true, although i use fuzz over my amps distortion so it's just as easy to click the fuzz of than switching pick ups of you could roll off the volume, although not sure how well that would work on the FF if it's ocsillating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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