musedan Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 if somebody cared enough to vote on day 1 and be upset that a particular song was missing, then they will care enough to send an email to correct it. Also, you can't assume everyone that voted on day one will be aware of the list change. All voters won't be lurking here or reading Reddit, many will be settled on the fact they've submitted their vote. That's why I think a mass email is the next logical step to make everyone aware of what's happened. Even if it's just to let attendees know they can email to request a change. Not emailing and relying on twitter responses is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyena17 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 They're not going to scrap it, ffs, everyone's already paid. There's a chance they'll lie about the poll winners, but that's existed since the inception of the idea. It's not like paying for a ticket gets you exactly what they billed (a request gig). We can't get a refund if they don't do it. They can do what they want - yeah, lying about the poll winners has always been a possibility. If things worked logically, they would realize this mess is because they chose a shitty company and not use them in the future. Unfortunately with Muse, that's not how things always work. If people are telling Muse that the polling site isn't working properly and their response is "wow lets not do request sets again", then that's on them. Are we really gonna avoid telling Muse their promised gig isn't gonna turn out as promised because we're scared it's gonna upset them? *shrug* I'm not going to, I just don't feel a need to add to the pile. If other people doing it solves the problem, then that's great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 (edited) Has anyone thought of asking this website to include more songs that weren't there for those who will re do their vote? No point. They'd almost certainly say no and the 2nd batch of songs will mostly suffer for votes anyway, not to mention an even smaller 3rd batch for people bothering to revote (plus a good chunk of people have already submitted their revote emails). It's not like paying for a ticket gets you exactly what they billed (a request gig). We can't get a refund if they don't do it. Refund? I'm pretty sure you could sue, dude. That'd be outright false advertising. Edited July 13, 2017 by Jobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technica Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Updated poll in an fb group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyena17 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Refund? I'm pretty sure you could sue, dude. That'd be outright false advertising. All they'd have to do is say it was due to technical issues, something beyond their control, they didn't have enough time to resolve it before the date. It would prob fly here in the States. Maybe the UK actually enforces laws, that would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technica Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 And from a separate group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustyy Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Can you post it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 I'm not going to say Muse hasn't bulled a bag full of dick moves over their career. Hell, their entire attitude towards US gigs has been unacceptable over the last decade and is only getting worse. But I feel pretty confident that they're not going to back out of the entire premise of this gig. Just take a deep breath. (And remember that there's TONS of people voting that don't go to Reddit, here, FB... and probably are voting for KoC...) Hopefully enough people are smart enough to read the email they were sent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technica Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Can you post it? the groups?? https://www.facebook.com/groups/130449347543089/?ref=group_header https://www.facebook.com/groups/1403000209781703/?ref=group_header I'm not going to say Muse hasn't bulled a bag full of dick moves over their career. Hell, their entire attitude towards US gigs has been unacceptable over the last decade and is only getting worse. But I feel pretty confident that they're not going to back out of the entire premise of this gig. Just take a deep breath. (And remember that there's TONS of people voting that don't go to Reddit, here, FB... and probably are voting for KoC...) Hopefully enough people are smart enough to read the email they were sent. Just remember how small this gig is and how many tickets most likely went to the hardcore, I wouldn't say there are a ton of votes for the staple songs, maybe a few but not many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technica Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 fucking hell you really deserve Madness and Starlight at evey gig say what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 the groups?? https://www.facebook.com/groups/130449347543089/?ref=group_header https://www.facebook.com/groups/1403000209781703/?ref=group_header Just remember how small this gig is and how many tickets most likely went to the hardcore, I wouldn't say there are a ton of votes for the staple songs, maybe a few but not many. The only source for how many tickets went in the presales was a random guy on Facebook, and the Reddit source was someone quoting Jobby quoting the FB guy... I'm not sure how solid that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyena17 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Updated poll in an fb group Omg that first list you posted. I hope the real results so far look like that...my god. I wouldn't even know what to do with myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technica Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 The only source for how many tickets went in the presales was a random guy on Facebook, and the Reddit source was Jobby quoting the FB guy... I'm not sure how solid that is. Didnt he get those stats from Ticketmaster themselves? im fairly sure that was the source. Anyways people are stupid but I don't believe they are that stupid is my point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Didnt he get those stats from Ticketmaster themselves? im fairly sure that was the source. Anyways people are stupid but I don't believe they are that stupid is my point The original person claimed they were told that by calling Ticketmaster, but I have serious doubts about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhHiJoms Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Omg that first list you posted. I hope the real results so far look like that...my god. I wouldn't even know what to do with myself Literally just joined those FB groups and seen the poll. Mother. Of. God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 COD needs every vote it can get so if any of y'all are considering not revoting at all (I can understanding waiting, I don't trust them rn either), please reconsider to see justice done by putting it in your list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhHiJoms Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 COD needs every vote it can get so if any of y'all are considering not revoting at all (I can understanding waiting, I don't trust them rn either), please reconsider to see justice done by putting it in your list. Buy me a gin & tonic and I'll consider it Jokes aside, I'd love to hear COD again, it's been a very long time since I heard it live but I'm struggling to see what I'd drop to replace COD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustyy Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 What's this poll looking like? Perfectly willing to tow the line instead of wasting some of my votes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technica Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 (edited) What's this poll looking like? Perfectly willing to tow the line instead of wasting some of my votes Basically the 4 most consistant songs in everyones votes are Easily, Eternally Missed, Glorious and Showbiz. Then looks like Muscle Museum, Sing For Absolution and Falling away with you make up the next few and then after that its a shit show One thing ive noticed is that people are using their re votes to actually boost the top 4/5 which is nice to see Edited July 13, 2017 by Technica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephymastyx Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 What's this poll looking like? Perfectly willing to tow the line instead of wasting some of my votes Current Top 20 from one of the facebook groups 26 Showbiz 22 Eternally Missed 19 Muscle Museum 18 Easily 18 Glorious 14 Sing for Absolution 13 Fury 12 Falling Away With You 11 The Groove 10 Invincible 9 Dead Star 9 Assassin 9 Map Of Your Head 8 Exo-Politics 8 City of Delusion 8 Space Dementia 7 The Small print 7 Futurism 6 Butterflies and Hurricanes 5 Ruled By Secrecy Note that anything added in the updated list will most likely do worse on the real voting due to the lack of reset Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustyy Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 I bet those top tracks will fall and some will go up, eswlxially given the amount of votes Unknown... Gonna vote for Glorious now tho which I wasn't before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Ended up saying fuck it and sent my revote email. Almost certain this is as good as we're gonna get, let's just hope they don't fuck this up too (though we've no way of knowing I suppose). Final list: City Of Delusion Showbiz Muscle Museum Cave Easily Futurism Invincible Glorious Exo-Politics Ruled By Secrecy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephymastyx Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Had another thought though, maybe the non-reset will have less influence than we may fear? I'd suspect people who aren't aware the list changed are mostly casuals who would vote for Starlight, SMBH etc either way, regardless if there are more choices or not. I would think that the majority of those who vote for real rarities are following the whole voting and would notice one way or the other the options have changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troymellor Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 I think people voting for Exogenesis will backfire massively. There is absolutely NOTHING to indicate that it's all three parts, and even when you click the snippet on settheset, it's just part 1. email states its just part one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuffers Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Held off on voting because I suspected more songs might get added. I was right, but I'm still skeptical just in case they add more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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