WeirdF Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 The Second Law definitely did leak guys. There was an anonymous YouTube upload of the entire album about a week before release (I assume it was uploaded somewhere else before this) and then only after that were the Australian stream and the Guardian stream made available. Madness also leaked before it was officially released as a single, I remember Zane Lowe mentioning the leak when he first played it on R1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonisdead Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 once again, where is this hype you're talking about? Tjet returns to the thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomesickSubterranean Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 So about 4 weeks till the album is released. What do you guys expect we'll get until then? I'm really curious to see if they'll release a third track (not necessarily a single) before the album comes out. Full tour dates would be nice too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckmuser14 Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 A Reapers studio version will probably be released on iTunes this month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickerman Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 How do you know?Or are you just assuming? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Tjet returns to the thread Let me guess, it feels more real this time because you were part of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alibros Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 The "hype" doesn't exist anywhere other than on here occasionally, with a very small number of people compared to the industry's "audience". T2L had a bit of a public hype as the Unsustainable teaser was kinda controversial (for the lack of a better word). They're generally getting better at controlling leaks and although obviously that's always a possibility, I doubt anything will happen until couple of days beroe re Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonisdead Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Let me guess, it feels more real this time because you were part of it? Lol two posts and you're already at an inflammatory high. No, there is hype because of the content of the album versus the fact that there is an album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPsycho Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 I agree with you guys, despite how badly I want to listen the new album I think it won't leak, I remember clear the deal with T2L and I think it will be the same with this album, the band might stream a week before or five days before.. ...what I don't know if it will be seven or five days before the album release in Australia (June 5) or worldwide (June 8) And about another single, or song released, I really don't know Blur and Mumfor & Sons released 3 o 4 songs before the album release, this month we have a few gigs and such, so... who knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redneonfish Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 I dunno, I rated T2L pretty low after initial listens. As an album it's bad, though it has some standout songs. Yeah, listens. Having people rank the album isn't the scientific method you think it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumpypotato Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 I could see a new song coming out this month to build the hype a week or two before release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPsycho Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 I could see a new song coming out this month to build the hype a week or two before release. agreed, it's been a month since DI and I'm not very hyped right now, and an Instagram clip and days later a new song (Reapers, Mercy, Defector) could up the hype to ridiculous level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonisdead Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Yeah, listens. Having people rank the album isn't the scientific method you think it is. It doesn't matter about it being the "scientific method", I just don't expect anyone to say this is the best album they've ever put out because no fan would've said that about TR or T2L after an initial listen. Hence, if any feedback is along the lines of "their best work yet" or "gives OoS/Aboslution a run for their money" it would be very significant. From what I remember hearing around here as well, BHAR wasn't well received initially either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redneonfish Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 It doesn't matter about it being the "scientific method", I just don't expect anyone to say this is the best album they've ever put out because no fan would've said that about TR or T2L after an initial listen. Hence, if any feedback is along the lines of "their best work yet" or "gives OoS/Aboslution a run for their money" it would be very significant. From what I remember hearing around here as well, BHAR wasn't well received initially either. Except it wouldn't be really, because the views expressed after the listening party are obviously gonna be subject to hyperbole: hyberbole like "their best work yet" or "gives oos/abso" a run for their money." Yes, exactly. Bhar wasn't well received initially, then after some time, a more measured approach developed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonisdead Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Except it wouldn't be really, because the views expressed after the listening party are obviously gonna be subject to hyperbole: hyberbole like "their best work yet" or "gives oos/abso" a run for their money." Yes, exactly. Bhar wasn't well received initially, then after some time, a more measured approach developed. You're missing my point. Hyperbolic or not, it's a bit ridiculous to expect fans to say "it's the beeeest thing ever omg!!!!!!!!" You can choose not to see any value in those opinions, but I do. Same logic you're using can be applied to critics who review albums just as they come out or just as soon as they're allowed to. You don't need to wait for years at a time before developing a proper opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobiiiaaas Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 As far as I'm concerned the only opinion of the album that matters to me, is mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redneonfish Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 You're missing my point. Hyperbolic or not, it's a bit ridiculous to expect fans to say "it's the beeeest thing ever omg!!!!!!!!" You can choose not to see any value in those opinions, but I do. Same logic you're using can be applied to critics who review albums just as they come out or just as soon as they're allowed to. You don't need to wait for years at a time before developing a proper opinion. I just noticed you made a typo. You said it would be very significant, so I apologise. But still, the fact you want people to rank the albums is basically just a numerical version of saying 'best thing eva.' It's not the same logic at all though. We can assume that critics probably listen to the album a few times before penning their reviews + there's at least a little expectation that they remain impartial. We don't know how many times the people are the listning even are gonna get to listen to it and if you think Muse fans who're hyped for a new album are gonna give a balanced view of how the album sounds, you're just wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redneonfish Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 As far as I'm concerned the only opinion of the album that matters to me, is mine. Also this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Lol two posts and you're already at an inflammatory high. No, there is hype because of the content of the album versus the fact that there is an album.what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonisdead Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 I just noticed you made a typo. You said it would be very significant, so I apologise. But still, the fact you want people to rank the albums is basically just a numerical version of saying 'best thing eva.' It's not the same logic at all though. We can assume that critics probably listen to the album a few times before penning their reviews + there's at least a little expectation that they remain impartial. We don't know how many times the people are the listning even are gonna get to listen to it and if you think Muse fans who're hyped for a new album are gonna give a balanced view of how the album sounds, you're just wrong. People can be hyped and still give a balanced review. I expect such from Mr. DeLarge, and Anthony Fantano for example (not that he's the best critic out there) does it routinely. what? Your points in this thread don't contribute very much of anything besides playing devil's advocate as you love to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobiiiaaas Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 I don't know where Drones will end up for me, I'm loving the sound of it so far but it's still probably three weeks or so before I hear any more of it. At the moment, (and this is just my own personal opinion), I'd rank each Muse album as thus: Absolution Black Holes and Revelations Origin of Symmetry Showbiz The Resistance The 2nd Law I'd expect Drones to be somewhere between Origin and Showbiz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Your points in this thread don't contribute very much of anything besides playing devil's advocate as you love to doI disagree when complete bullshit is posted as truths. Getting asked what makes you say the album is more hyped and replying with "the content" along with a very iffy usage of versus doesn't make much sense. Where are you seeing a hype? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolFunkMan Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 (edited) Deluxe Edition Is this definitely legit? If so, then it's awesome, I'm glad I pre-ordered the Deluxe Edition! EDIT: Just seen it's legit, it's on the US Muse store page. Derp. Edited May 7, 2015 by CoolFunkMan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asmodius Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 I don't know where Drones will end up for me, I'm loving the sound of it so far but it's still probably three weeks or so before I hear any more of it. At the moment, (and this is just my own personal opinion), I'd rank each Muse album as thus: Absolution Black Holes and Revelations Origin of Symmetry Showbiz The Resistance The 2nd Law I'd expect Drones to be somewhere between Origin and Showbiz. If we get something really heavy and good then this would be mine: Absolution Origin of Symmetry Showbiz Drones and BHR in same spot A pile of dog shit The 2nd Law The Resistance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonisdead Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 I disagree when complete bullshit is posted as truths. Getting asked what makes you say the album is more hyped and replying with "the content" along with a very iffy usage of versus doesn't make much sense. Where are you seeing a hype? Complete bullshit? Iffy usage of versus? Christ, is it observation and grammar derision time on this thread again? Apparently I've been long overdue... You clearly understood what I meant, and I observed that people are more excited about Muse's return to form because there's something tangible there to look forward to that pleases older fans, whereas TR only really mentioned Exogenesis which the hype centered around, and T2L had no major focus around which any hype had grown. Expectations are higher for this album because we know what to expect. Satisfied? If we get something really heavy and good then this would be mine: Absolution Origin of Symmetry Showbiz Drones and BHR in same spot A pile of dog shit The 2nd Law The Resistance Interesting that you like Showbiz so much. Judging from what the band have said and what hints we've gotten, I think this will be a top three album for me (Absolution/Origin of Symmetry/Drones), and might help me define a solid spot for each of those two since I see them constantly competing for my #1 spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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