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people need to calm the fuck down, this is just a simple case of teenage girl excitment that a massive band like muse are refering to them (infowars/prisonplanet) and it has got the office boys of infowars excited so they've done a piece giving muse props back, Its nothing new, muse and aussie band cog have being promoted on their website for speaking out against the NWO tyrants before. To all the people who are saying this is "crazy" , the further you go into the rabbit hole, the scarier it gets, stuff that isnt under any normal persons comprehension level makes perfect sense and shatters your reality.

Chances are matt bellamy would anilate any doubters on this MB with TRUTH and FACTS.

Say what you want that makes you sleep easier at night.

"In a world of universal deciet,Telling the truth is a revolutionary act" - Thomas Jefferson

 

matt bellamy is spot on and i respect his song writing and being brave enough to voice his opinions in a society that is quick to judge and demonize alternitive thinkers as "crazy conspiracy theorists" , which i hate that term.

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people need to calm the fuck down, this is just a simple case of teenage girl excitment that a massive band like muse are refering to them (infowars/prisonplanet) and it has got the office boys of infowars excited so they've done a piece giving muse props back, Its nothing new, muse and aussie band cog have being promoted on their website for speaking out against the NWO tyrants before. To all the people who are saying this is "crazy" , the further you go into the rabbit hole, the scarier it gets, stuff that isnt under any normal persons comprehension level makes perfect sense and shatters your reality.

Chances are matt bellamy would anilate any doubters on this MB with TRUTH and FACTS.

Say what you want that makes you sleep easier at night.

"In a world of universal deciet,Telling the truth is a revolutionary act" - Thomas Jefferson

 

matt bellamy is spot on and i respect his song writing and being brave enough to voice his opinions in a society that is quick to judge and demonize alternitive thinkers as "crazy conspiracy theorists" , which i hate that term.

 

No, but you usually are crazy conspiracy theorists. The more you listen to lunatics like Alex Jones the more indoctrinated you get until you can't see the wood for the trees. Saying it's beyond "any normal persons comprehension" only serves to make you look even more ridiculous. You miss the real crimes in society in favour of made up stories that are more exotic and science fictiony. It does an even greater disservice from the truth by detracting attention from the real problems in the world.

 

This thread is pretty much junk so if you want to bring some of your reality shattering truths up feel free.

 

And also, Matt really doesn't buy into to all these crazy conspiracy theories. He has distanced himself from most of them now. It was just a gimmick, like it should be.

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That's a bit of a silly thing to do.

 

I guess. I can see both sides of the argument. I just don't know which I'm on.

 

And there's no point in people saying 'Matt thinks this, Matt thinks that' because no one knows what he think and he constantly contradicts himself

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I love this article. I could have wrote it my self. You only have to looks at face book and see all the teen girls who all look the same and think you have to be sexy. kids are so obsessed with looks and being cool that they don't have time to look at the big picture. But that's what the corporates want. Keep us busy so we look the other way. Not like the 60s 70s where teens wanted to take over the world and stop war. Hippy s I salute you. Or in the 80s ware rock music sent a message about how to be proud of who you are and not try to fit in a box. What dose music tell kids today? . You have to look sexy all the time, and be popular. . Muse are the only band I know that are shouting out to the kids saying wake up, .

As conspiracies unwind

Will you slam shut

Or free your mind

Or stay hypnotised

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I love this article. I could have wrote it my self. You only have to looks at face book and see all the teen girls who all look the same and think you have to be sexy. kids are so obsessed with looks and being cool that they don't have time to look at the big picture. But that's what the corporates want. Keep us busy so we look the other way. Not like the 60s 70s where teens wanted to take over the world and stop war. Hippy s I salute you. Or in the 80s ware rock music sent a message about how to be proud of who you are and not try to fit in a box. What dose music tell kids today? . You have to look sexy all the time, and be popular. . Muse are the only band I know that are shouting out to the kids saying wake up, .

As conspiracies unwind

Will you slam shut

Or free your mind

Or stay hypnotised

 

This is kind of true. I think a lot of things today are highly sexualised. Although I wasn't around 30/40 years ago so I cant comment on what it was like then...

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No, but you usually are crazy conspiracy theorists. The more you listen to lunatics like Alex Jones the more indoctrinated you get until you can't see the wood for the trees. Saying it's beyond "any normal persons comprehension" only serves to make you look even more ridiculous. You miss the real crimes in society in favour of made up stories that are more exotic and science fictiony. It does an even greater disservice from the truth by detracting attention from the real problems in the world.

 

This thread is pretty much junk so if you want to bring some of your reality shattering truths up feel free.

 

And also, Matt really doesn't buy into to all these crazy conspiracy theories. He has distanced himself from most of them now. It was just a gimmick, like it should be.

 

i know i deleted my original post, only because i thought " fuck it" im sick of trying to argue my point, i believe when the time is right you'll realise that the " conspiracy theorists" have being right all along, this is something i cannot force other people to see, it's something of a natural progression into alternitive politics and seeing through the bullshit, its more of a deep curiosity for the truth and who the fuck runs this joint . If you dont want to take an open minded look at "conspiracy theories" or "made up stories" which you call them , (by the way AJ must go to ALOT of trouble to make up all these stories that are featured on his website everyday) then to each his own. i dont give a fuck.

 

i was speaking more from my self experience because it did shatter my perception of reality,hearing ickes own take on this matrix reality we live in , i watch ALOT of this stuff but doesnt mean i believe 100% of it, i just love hearing other outside thinkers thoughts on this stuff. Its interesting.

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No, but you usually are crazy conspiracy theorists. The more you listen to lunatics like Alex Jones the more indoctrinated you get until you can't see the wood for the trees. Saying it's beyond "any normal persons comprehension" only serves to make you look even more ridiculous. You miss the real crimes in society in favour of made up stories that are more exotic and science fictiony. It does an even greater disservice from the truth by detracting attention from the real problems in the world.

 

This thread is pretty much junk so if you want to bring some of your reality shattering truths up feel free.

 

And also, Matt really doesn't buy into to all these crazy conspiracy theories. He has distanced himself from most of them now. It was just a gimmick, like it should be.

 

Personally I think that Matt does still believe some of this stuff has grounds. Probably some of it has. I don't think Muse use it as a gimmick. But I don't get the impression that he's as blinkered as some of the people who come on declaring all of it as the truth. I reckon he's open minded and I think everyone should be. In discarding every conspiracy theory there is a danger of throwing out the baby with the bathwater because the distortion of the truth goes on all the time. Saying that I'm pretty sure myself there is no such thing as a NWO. There is no such thing as an illuminati who brainwash people. There is a natural elite in society - the people who are born with the silver spoon in their mouths and get the most opportunities; there are power struggles which involve corruption at times; and there is Capitalism which favours the powerful.

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This is kind of true. I think a lot of things today are highly sexualised. Although I wasn't around 30/40 years ago so I cant comment on what it was like then...

 

And that it's done to keep people dumbed down.

 

I'm young and naive and I don't really know what to believe in. Although there is definatly more than meets the eye in this world.

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Saying that I'm pretty sure myself there is no such thing as a NWO. There is no such thing as an illuminati who brainwash people.

 

ok i was agreeing with you all the way up till what ive quoted..Is this enough evidence for you to believe the hidden elite rulers of the world want to create a NWO ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3Fo1zEjCRw

 

and please PLEASE read this before saying theirs no brainwashing on the public.

http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=3571

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If you want to understand what's going to happen in the future you must first study the past. There is so much you can learn from history.

Power and control over the people gos way back . The scary thing is, that they now know how to do it in a way we wont object.

Mind control is to make people think they are happy and want the things that are happening. That way they wont try and stop it. For kids its easy feed them with TV games and internet . Give them toys to keep they happy and have them worrying about looking good and being cool. It keeps them dumb and unaware of what's happening. If they don't care ,they wont be in the way. Don't study politics kids its boring. Or is that want they want you to think ?

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If you want to understand what's going to happen in the future you must first study the past. There is so much you can learn from history.

Power and control over the people gos way back . The scary thing is, that they now know how to do it in a way we wont object.

Mind control is to make people think they are happy and want the things that are happening. That way they wont try and stop it. For kids its easy feed them with TV games and internet . Give them toys to keep they happy and have them worrying about looking good and being cool. It keeps them dumb and unaware of what's happening. If they don't care ,they wont be in the way. Don't study politics kids its boring. Or is that want they want you to think ?

 

 

I must say I agree with this. Also, those old signs I think from around ww2, "Keep calm and carry on". Don't you think they're a bit sinister? As in "No need to worry! Everything's fine, you go about your lives just like the rest of you ignorant puppets...we're in control, we'll take care of things around here." ..Or is that just me being paranoid? :LOL:

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If you want to understand what's going to happen in the future you must first study the past. There is so much you can learn from history.

Power and control over the people gos way back . The scary thing is, that they now know how to do it in a way we wont object.

Mind control is to make people think they are happy and want the things that are happening. That way they wont try and stop it. For kids its easy feed them with TV games and internet . Give them toys to keep they happy and have them worrying about looking good and being cool. It keeps them dumb and unaware of what's happening. If they don't care ,they wont be in the way. Don't study politics kids its boring. Or is that want they want you to think ?

 

Finally someone talking some sense apart from me :LOL:, i love how this thread is turning out, finally a topic thats in my neck of the woods.

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ok i was agreeing with you all the way up till what ive quoted..Is this enough evidence for you to believe the hidden elite rulers of the world want to create a NWO ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3Fo1zEjCRw

 

and please PLEASE read this before saying theirs no brainwashing on the public.

http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=3571

 

Right okay, this is my understanding. I am aware that I'm only partly informed as I haven't thoroughly investigated the stuff on these sites, and I'm not at a high academic level in relation to the sociological aspects yet. But anyway the first video appears to me to be a collection of clips which have been deliberately put together in a sensationalist form to make an entity appear to exist which doesn't. What I think is being quoted is political rhetoric. The NWO these politicians are referring to is change to make improvement, deal with problems or adjustment to globalisation. It's not an entity, it's a condition. The world is always changing and adjustment is needed. Politicians often promise some kind of utopia which they are never able to deliver. But basically I think the idea is to recognise a new epoch. Yes propaganda will be involved and yes there are some with less than helpful outlooks, and there are elites and it's important to attempt to recognise that, but there isn't one body of people who are ruling the world, in cooperation with each other with the motive of gaining ultimate power over the people.

 

I am suspicious of the agenda behind someone who is deliberately attempting to manufacturer this delusion and confused by it. Maybe he really believes it but it looks more likely to me that there is a right wing, anti-socialist agenda underlying it. When you see this sensationalist stuff you should quickly be suspicious, because the reality of the situation is most likely to be a lot more mundane.

 

The second piece is interesting as it's a direct switch to Marxist type outlook and a lot of it I agree with. By that I'm saying it reflects neomarxist ideas of what damages society. Brainwashing is a crude term for it though. What it is referring to is advertising and propaganda and the power of conglomerates. But the distortion is that this isn't a manipulation by a small group of people (the illuminati or NWO) though the result is that a few gain huge power, it is the result of profit making and material wealth being seen as an ultimate goal in life which outweighs all other. It's about money and Capitalism. Where the interlink between government and corporations comes in is in the power relationships. Some of these corporations have as much money as a whole country. Not only does it mean that they have the highest degree of resources at their disposal to lobby government but they also have the leverage in where they choose to employ people and thus can have an effect on the economy of individual countries.

 

I'm pretty passionate about people opening their minds to this sort of stuff. However I would also say that I think society is a lot more complex than there being one overarching factor and people are more complicated too, than simply being pawns. The whole thing is entwined. People influence what happens in society as well as the the society around them influencing them.

 

As for the "conspiracy theorists", maybe if I start thinking this stuff is a right wing conspiracy to undermine left wing movements, I'm doing the same as them, maybe it is simply Libertarianism, but I do wonder why someone like Alex Jones would latch on to this. What seems to me to be a blurring between legitimate theories and facts and bizarre propaganda is confusing and not particularly helpful in the goal of producing an informed population. Has that type of thing always been part of his propaganda?

 

Corruption no doubt exists but basically there is no such thing as a perfect system.

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If you want to understand what's going to happen in the future you must first study the past. There is so much you can learn from history.

Power and control over the people gos way back . The scary thing is, that they now know how to do it in a way we wont object.

Mind control is to make people think they are happy and want the things that are happening. That way they wont try and stop it. For kids its easy feed them with TV games and internet . Give them toys to keep they happy and have them worrying about looking good and being cool. It keeps them dumb and unaware of what's happening. If they don't care ,they wont be in the way. Don't study politics kids its boring. Or is that want they want you to think ?

 

Actually I watched an interesting programme by Richard Dawkins on religious school segregation, and while this is a slightly different topic, what a psychologist doing a study found was that children are predisposed to believe that naturally occuring things have been designed for a purpose. They thought it was down to being surrounded by manmade things that have. So for instance when asked whether ripples in a river were due to water moving in from another source or it was to keep the animals in the river cool, the majority of children answered that they thought it was to keep the animals cool. Thus Richard Dawkins concluded that religious indocrination has an unfair advantage as we are already psychologically predisposed to believe in a creator. I thought about conspiracy theorists then, because the idea that things which occur in society are the result of a mega plan, is very similar. While these things are occurring they are the result of random motives not the result of some big conspiracy. There is no one sitting in a big white chair like Dr No, conspiring to take over the world. Not to say that you don't get megalomaniacs but it's not that simple.

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The idea behind a n.w.o.is to have a one world government. A government that's in change of the world rather than septate government for septate countrey's

This government will control not just how we live but also control population.

Keeping the population down and under control . .

This is something that's being worked on and has been worked on for a long time.

 

Once a long time ago you would have lived on some land that was passed to you from family. You would grow your own food, raise chickens and hunt for food. It was hard work but you were free.

 

One day a king decided the land was his and ordered you to pay taxes on the land. If you could not afford this, your house was burnt down and you could be killed. This was control.

We have been so domesticated now that we live in box houses and buy food from a shop. Most of us cant hunt and don't Know how to grow food, most of us are foresd to work in jobs we hate to make money to pay the government and buy food that is wrapped up ready to go. We are no longer free but slaves to the government . But we are happy as long as we got TV and a mobile phone.

If we don't stand up and be counted, there will come a time when you cant even buy a house or choose were we live , or is that now?

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