Dramatic Hammer Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 It's definately this: C|x---------------| H|--x---x---x---x-| S|----x-------x---| B|x--xx--xx--xx--x| ive studied this song for too long now trying to find out what he does - plus ive seen it live twice. lol Dunno why, I always assumed it was: C|----------------| H|x-o-x-o-x-o-x-o-| S|----x-------x---| B|x-xx--xxx-xx--xx| but your way is a bit more interesting... I wish I had some drums here to try it out:(. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADAM Posted September 6, 2006 Author Share Posted September 6, 2006 Dunno why, I always assumed it was: C|----------------| H|x-o-x-o-x-o-x-o-| S|----x-------x---| B|x-xx--xxx-xx--xx| but your way is a bit more interesting... I wish I had some drums here to try it out:(. Thats quite a funky way to do it - but im about 97% sure its the way I tabbed it. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3chris Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 Thats quite a funky way to do it - but im about 97% sure its the way I tabbed it. lol i think you're right, your tab seems spot on with what i can hear anyway lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dramatic Hammer Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 Thats quite a funky way to do it - but im about 97% sure its the way I tabbed it. lol Oh yeah, I'm pretty sure yours is right - I just don't listen properly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Zilcho Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 I think he plays some ghost notes on the snare in between the regular hits, might only be live though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADAM Posted September 6, 2006 Author Share Posted September 6, 2006 I think he plays some ghost notes on the snare in between the regular hits, might only be live though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niles Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 He does that in every song, one of his habits like constantly pedalling the hats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Zilcho Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 He does that in every song, one of his habits like constantly pedalling the hats. But in this case it actually seems to be on purpose, to make the beat even more gallopping or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niles Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 Oh I've no doubt he does it deliberately but I doubt it's intended to contribute to the beat cos you cant hear it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Zilcho Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 Oh I've no doubt he does it deliberately but I doubt it's intended to contribute to the beat cos you cant hear it. You can in some live versions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niles Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 Muserist, your sig makes it near impossible to read the board at uni without getting cast disapproving glances from the people around me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6ixty_6ix Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 Muserist, your sig makes it near impossible to read the board at uni without getting cast disapproving glances from the people around me. can i 2nd that, im in college and the amount of guys who have stared at my screen is phenomanel Akira Jimbo is actually awsome, Portnoy also rocks but i see Dream TheaTER as a bit TO pretentious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richiejazz Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 It's definately this: C|x---------------| H|--x---x---x---x-| S|----x-------x---| B|x--xx--xx--xx--x| ive studied this song for too long now trying to find out what he does - plus ive seen it live twice. lol Yeah this is the general jist of it....not sure about the second bass drum beat with the snare though....maybe. What Muserist said I think is nearly right although the galloping nature of the song means Muserists version would probably work if it was swung a bit. As for the whole beat sounding busier than this with ghost notes etc I think its a bit of an illusion - Dom basically plays the relatively simple beat above but its this combined with Chris's bass and more importantly the Arpeggio synth backing throughout the whole song that makes it sound even more ferocious - ithe build up of layers creates tight fitting polyrhythms. Dom also on occassion throws in an off beat tom/gong bass note (usually on with the last bass drum note of the bar) which adds a bit of depth.. Also are people suggesting Dom plays this song with the heel toe method??? I havnt mastered this method yet...and it would interesting to know for sure.... I can play KOC with foot flat on the pedal at the correct speed - Its not too difficult once you get the hang of it - although if your are not used to playing such it takes practice!! Im getting better at this song but a first it gave me chronic foot ache playing all three verse sections!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dramatic Hammer Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 I should point out that my way was literally how I played it in my head from memory - little to do with what he's actually playing! Sorry about the sig - should I put a few of these in it instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niles Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 Na, the current one's fine. EDIT: How bout this: http://www.metacafe.com/watch/68223/bouncy/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADAM Posted September 8, 2006 Author Share Posted September 8, 2006 Yeah this is the general jist of it....not sure about the second bass drum beat with the snare though....maybe. It is As for the whole beat sounding busier than this with ghost notes etc I think its a bit of an illusion - Dom basically plays the relatively simple beat above but its this combined with Chris's bass and more importantly the Arpeggio synth backing throughout the whole song that makes it sound even more ferocious - ithe build up of layers creates tight fitting polyrhythms. I can play KOC with foot flat on the pedal at the correct speed - Its not too difficult once you get the hang of it What? Like this? C|x---------------| H|--x---x---x---x-| S|----x-------x---| B|x--x---xx--x---x| I can play that ^^^, but im certain the extra bass drums are in there which fucks me right off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richiejazz Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 What? Like this? C|x---------------| H|--x---x---x---x-| S|----x-------x---| B|x--x---xx--x---x| I can play that ^^^, but im certain the extra bass drums are in there which fucks me right off! Yes like that - thats my general interpretation. Im sure though he does through in extra notes here and there though with his flexible foot!!V.difficult to tell for sure. He also adds the gong bass sometimes like this (and other places) may/may not be replacing the BD on the same note. C|x---------------| H|--x---x---x---x-| S|----x-------x---| GB|-------x--------| B|x--x---xx--x---x| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niles Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 Yes, after time will waste you it's like this: G|-------x--------| H|--x---x---x---x-| S|----x-------x---| B|x--x----x--x---x| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.:josh:. Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 I have been learning KoC. I wrote out charts for it and i think it is this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niles Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 What do my eyes see? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADAM Posted September 14, 2006 Author Share Posted September 14, 2006 i dont understand.... where are the sextuplets in the song? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.:josh:. Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 i dont understand.... where are the sextuplets in the song? sorry, they're in the fills. there is just one bar there of the beat then the rest is the fills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADAM Posted September 15, 2006 Author Share Posted September 15, 2006 sorry, they're in the fills. there is just one bar there of the beat then the rest is the fills. ahh gotchya! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3chris Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 What do my eyes see? a stingray... run mayte, crikey! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_and_tv Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 a stingray... run mayte, crikey! coooooooold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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