rainer219 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 I find it baffling that people still say the globalist beginning is a complete l'arena rip-off and Morricone should be credited. While it's an obvious homage (with the whistling and orchestration and everything) the chord progression and whistling melodies are different (for example L'arena starts with Dm, then moves to G, F and Bb, Muse uses the classic andalusian cadence in the beginning Am G,F,E). They are very similar of course but Morricone would/should be credited only if the melodies were *identical*, right? Am, G, F, E... is that a general example of the cadence, or of The Globalist's use of it? Because then The Globalist is in C. (vi V IV III) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p_of_cydonia Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Am, G, F, E... is that a general example of the cadence, or of The Globalist's use of it? Because then The Globalist is in C. (vi V IV III) I think the first time it goes like AmGFE and then it changes and goes to AmDmGF and then goes to C chord. I *think* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPsycho Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Now listenning ' L'Arena '. Amazing song... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandOmegaBoss Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 This song would have been a PERFECT album opener. It's the perfect buildup. Or, an album ender. I reckon they've kicked themselves over this song because being a sort of concept album, they had to keep The Globalist where it fit with the lyrical story. But can anyone imagine this opening live? Actually, lyrically, this song is a separate narrative from the rest of the album, I think along with Drones which is why they close it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 This song would have been a PERFECT album opener. It's the perfect buildup. Or, an album ender. I reckon they've kicked themselves over this song because being a sort of concept album, they had to keep The Globalist where it fit with the lyrical story. But can anyone imagine this opening live? It might yet be the end of the album, we still don't know what Drones is. Mutt described it as the end of the album so who knows. Also, 9-10 minutes is too long for a main set opener, it'd probably be more appropriate as an encore opener. To be honest, I'm not sure how they're gonna play it considering the 3 different guitar parts we've heard so far. Maybe Morgan will play the acoustic part while Matt does the slide on a 7-string? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LewisF Posted May 15, 2015 Author Share Posted May 15, 2015 I think Morgan will do acoustic and Matt do slide (on the 7-string) so that there is no need for a guitar swap halfway through the song Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uneety Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 ...or they will never play it live because of its complexity/difficulty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyndris Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 ...or they will never play it live because of its complexity/difficulty. This is actually probably what's going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uneety Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 That orchestral part is just won't work live because without proper orchestra they will have to play it just as a backing track, and I doubt they'll do that. But maybe they will make different live intro for the song... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LewisF Posted May 15, 2015 Author Share Posted May 15, 2015 Well they've previously said that they can play the full album live, and have mentioned doing full album gigs, so that's probably not the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 That orchestral part is just won't work live because they will have to play it just as a backing track, and I doubt they'll do that. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uneety Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Well they've previously said that they can play the full album live, and have mentioned doing full album gigs, so that's probably not the case. Yeah, hope so. But anyway I don't think that The Globalist will be a regular part of the setlist, so don't expect it to be played at the festivals. Maybe those full album gigs (it they will happen) will be the only opportunities to see it live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uneety Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Why? Because it sounds like it will be pretty calm and atmospheric part, and as a backing track I think it will sound just... weak. Even with acoustic guitar and slide over it. But we'll see, hope I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Because it sounds like it will be pretty calm and atmospheric part, and as a backing track I think it will sound just... weak. Even with acoustic guitar and slide over it. But we'll see, hope I'm wrong. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ey5nhD2MWWI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogles. Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 We'll probably get a huge drone flying over the audience during the intro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uneety Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ey5nhD2MWWI Yea, forgot about Exo. Maybe it'll be okay. Ah, just need to hear the actual song to see how it goes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonisdead Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 New interview on reddit with Matt and Dom confirms there will indeed be whistling on The Globalist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPsycho Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 New interview on reddit with Matt and Dom confirms there will indeed be whistling on The Globalist. L'Arena whispers are quite awesome... great interview BTW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-FutureStar- Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 New interview on reddit with Matt and Dom confirms there will indeed be whistling on The Globalist. Ahhh, I need to hear whether it's good or not... Otherwise, hilarious interview! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudia O Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 Oh, didn't read this thread..I posted the link in the media section to that interview Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPsycho Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Lots of info about the song today. From yesterday french magazine "Long intro, western style wistled melody, bolero rythm & Floyd guitars. Quite epic!" From today italian review which says it's pretty much the best song of the album,then talks about thing we already know, the L'Arena whistles, epic song, and such.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Isn't all of that info we already had? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Isn't all of that info we already had? Yarp. Slightly concerned that it doesn't really sound like there's much in the song to warrant it being 9-12 minutes long. From what we know, the only parts seem to be Whistling + acoustic > slide guitar > metal riff/heavy section > dramatic piano + strings outro. Hope it doesn't feel overly-long and strechted out for no reason like Psycho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Heat Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Am i wrong or Itunes said is 9 minutes long but Chris said 12? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobiiiaaas Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Am i wrong or Itunes said is 9 minutes long but Chris said 12? The iTunes track times were fake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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