Hat Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 And in Europe it was the first time they were able to play some of the biggest stadiums available, first time headlining R/L, their biggest commercial success in general, and the Wembley gigs which the band has claimed to be two of their best gigs ever. But I'm sure that's insignificant to the band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander DeLarge Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Oh shit, I confused 2009 with 2007, they didn't play the o2 or anything like that leading up to the stadiums did they? My bad, not to mention the RAH gig in 2008. My bad. Suppose it was quite special there too. I really doubt they'll do a BH&R gig though, seems like they want to forget about the material rather than bring it back, unless they want to give City of Delusion/Exo-Politics a send off of sorts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 (edited) I really doubt they'll do a BH&R gig though, seems like they want to forget about the material rather than bring it back, unless they want to give City of Delusion/Exo-Politics a send off of sorts. To be fair, the same could've been said about Origin before R/L. Edit: I doubt they'd choose to do an album anniversary gig in the US as well, considering how they seem to feel about the crowds there. Edited January 28, 2016 by Jobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanp16 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 To be fair, the same could've been said about Origin before R/L. In the context of the TR tour, sure, but they were barely touching the majority of Absolution or BHAR at that point either. TR tour still had New Born, Bliss, Plug in Baby, Citizen Erased and Feeling Good before R/L was considered. About as much as got played from BHAR and Absolution, Origin was strongly represented on the BHAR tour; New Born, Bliss, Space Dementia, Plug in Baby, Citizen, Micro Cuts, Feeling Good, Megalomania and similarly on the Abso tour. On the other hand, half of BHAR was put to sleep before the tour even ended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonisdead Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Edit: I doubt they'd choose to do an album anniversary gig in the US as well, considering how they seem to feel about the crowds there. Always going for the easy commentary doubt they'd go for an anniversary gig period anyways anymore. They did nothing for Abso, highly unlikely they'd do one for BH&R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 But we're obviously talking hypothetically so I don't see the issue. The OoS anniversary was highly unlikely as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 (edited) On the other hand, half of BHAR was put to sleep before the tour even ended. To be fair, a fair amount of Origin pretty much died straight after it's respective tour as well: Hyper Music, Dark Shines, Screenager and Megalomania (aside from the one-off at RAH). Comparing that to Invincible, Exo-Politics, COD and Hoodoo (not sure whether to count Assassin and Soldier's Poem since they did come back very briefly but you can if you want), there isn't too much difference. I get what you're saying though with more of Origin sticking around for longer, albeit as rotations/rarities. Always going for the easy commentary doubt they'd go for an anniversary gig period anyways anymore. They did nothing for Abso, highly unlikely they'd do one for BH&R. But it's...true? I'm not personally slagging off the US fans/crowds, I'm just saying it's pretty obvious that Muse doesn't value them as much. Also, I'm pretty sure they said the main reason they didn't do one for Abso was because they didn't want to get caught in the trap of doing an anniversary gig every time, which is fair. It's been 4 years since their last one and arguably Origin and BH&R are their two most significant albums in terms of their growth. I'm just saying, it's about as possible as Origin was at the time. Don't see any reason to totally dismiss it if it's true that the band or people connected to them have been mentioning it to fans. Edited January 28, 2016 by Jobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanp16 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 You could argue that they at least somewhat acknowledged Absolution in 2013 on the stadium tour with the return of Blackout and B&H (which was probably going to come back anyway). Emirates night 2 had the most number of Abso tracks played at a gig since 2007 and Fury came back a few months later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustyy Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Take a Bow Map of the Problematique MK Ultra Bliss Interlude + Hysteria Supermassive Black Hole Assassin Dead Inside Hoodoo New Born Exo-Politics City of Delusion Starlight Invincible Time is Running Out Uprising Reapers Soldiers Poem Stockholm Syndrome Plug in Baby Knights of Cydonia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozza Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 (edited) BHaR Tour Night 1: Take a Bow Reapers The Handler Map of the Problematique Supremacy City of Delusion Hysteria Forced In Bliss United States of Eurasia Soldiers Poem Hoodoo Invincible Dead Inside Uprising Supermassive Black Hole Starlight Time Is Running Out Survival Citizen Erased Sunburn Knights of Cydonia Night 2: BHaR Tour Night 1: Knights of Cydonia Psycho New Born Assassin Plug In Baby Starlight Map of the Problematique Butterflies and Hurricanes Hoodoo Apocalypse Please Cave (2009 version) Madness Invincible Uprising Exo-Politics Supermassive Black Hole Mercy Time Is Running Out Unnatural Selection Muscle Museum Stockholm Syndrome Take a Bow Edited January 28, 2016 by Mozza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLionSlicer Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 To be fair, the same could've been said about Origin before R/L. Edit: I doubt they'd choose to do an album anniversary gig in the US as well, considering how they seem to feel about the crowds there. The only anniversary gig I could see making sense here is TR seeing as that's probably their biggest album here. It also seems to me that people in the US know those songs pretty well based on who I've talked to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogles. Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 [We Are The Universe/Stadium siren] Reapers Psycho Map of the Problematique Showbiz New Born The Handler Butterflies and Hurricanes The Globalist Apocalypse Please Ruled By Secrecy Space Dementia [JFK] Defector Revolt Bliss Plug In Baby Assassin Knights of Cydonia -Encore- Blackout Aftermath Glorious Muscle Museum -Encore 2- Citizen Erased Survival Stockholm Syndrome Take A Bow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 I remember when there was hopeful talk about a BH&R show around the time of R/L and it seemed such a far away event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regilistic Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Origin was strongly represented on the BHAR tour; New Born, Bliss, Space Dementia, Plug in Baby, Citizen, Micro Cuts, Feeling Good, Megalomania and similarly on the Abso tour. Wasn't Megalomania a one-off at the RAH simply because of the organ there? And Space Dementia was at V fest and 2-4 other South American gigs. But on the topic of putting an album to sleep, is anybody surprised by how extinct T2L is becoming in the setlists. The only T2L that is around is Madness. That's the most songs dropped off the previous album between touring cycles. Even worse than the BHAR-TR transition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanp16 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Wasn't Megalomania a one-off at the RAH simply because of the organ there? And Space Dementia was at V fest and 2-4 other South American gigs. But on the topic of putting an album to sleep, is anybody surprised by how extinct T2L is becoming in the setlists. The only T2L that is around is Madness. That's the most songs dropped off the previous album between touring cycles. Even worse than the BHAR-TR transition. Yeah those ones and Dublin. It's completely disappeared from the current sets, but it's still around in a sense. They're playing Isolated System, Unsustainable was played at the SA and Asia gigs (and the Mexican festival after the 360 gigs), Animals was played in Asia and on the festival tour and Psycho tour and Supremacy was also on the festival tour. So I doubt they're done with it yet. I'd say more might return for the European gigs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 I think there's a reason to why it's mostly the instrumental tracks that have survived. I keep saying it. Matt's voice has a big impact on the setlists. Supremacy was really rough the few times it was performed this tour. Survival and Follow Me are way too demanding, and Madness only works because he avoids the difficult notes. And then we had two songs by Chris who doesn't wanna sing anymore so...not much left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nkdmtro93 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 But on the topic of putting an album to sleep, is anybody surprised by how extinct T2L is becoming in the setlists. The only T2L that is around is Madness. That's the most songs dropped off the previous album between touring cycles. Even worse than the BHAR-TR transition. Not so much..T2L songs do not fit at these shows and the concept of them..They also play Supremacy now and then,which i don't really like but is a blast listening live! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DifferentPerson Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Not so much..T2L songs do not fit at these shows and the concept of them..They also play Supremacy now and then,which i don't really like but is a blast listening live! Undisclosed Desires doesn't fit at the current shows or with the 'concept' and they're still playing it, so I don't think that's really a factor... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustyy Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Europe: All albums represented, all fan types spoken for, breaks for Matt, not too many rarities but enough **Drones** 1. Psycho 2. Map of the Problematique 3. Dead Inside 4. Plug in Baby 5. Bliss / Citizen Erased 6. Isolated System 7. The Handler 8. Interlude + Hysteria 9. Supermassive Black Hole 10. Starlight 11. Apocalypse Please / United States of Eurasia / Sunburn 12. Muscle Museum / Showbiz / Assassin 13 Munich Jam 14. JFK + Revolt 15. Time is Running Out 16. Uprising 17. Reapers 18. Stockholm Syndrome / New Born 19. The Globalist 20. Take a Bow 21. Mercy 22. Knights of Cydonia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LewisF Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Europe: All albums represented, all fan types spoken for, breaks for Matt, not too many rarities but enough **Drones** 1. Psycho 2. Map of the Problematique 3. Dead Inside 4. Plug in Baby 5. Bliss / Citizen Erased 6. Isolated System 7. The Handler 8. Interlude + Hysteria 9. Supermassive Black Hole 10. Starlight 11. Apocalypse Please / United States of Eurasia / Sunburn 12. Muscle Museum / Showbiz / Assassin 13 Munich Jam 14. JFK + Revolt 15. Time is Running Out 16. Uprising 17. Reapers 18. Stockholm Syndrome / New Born 19. The Globalist 20. Take a Bow 21. Mercy 22. Knights of Cydonia Id rotate B&H with CE and Bliss with PIB, but that set would leave me very happy indeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trailfreak Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 (edited) Hope Supremecy is in the set for the o2 this year as it's brilliant and was an awesome opener when I saw you at the Emirates stadium a couple of years ago. Muse fans love it, so stick it in there please. Just thinking out loud now, with such an awesome staging and set to come, I guess you can't really change the main set, so please do Supremecy in the encore. It's amazing. Thank you from us Muse fans Edited January 29, 2016 by trailfreak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LewisF Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Hope Supremecy is in the set for the o2 this year as it's brilliant and was an awesome opener when I saw you at the Emirates stadium a couple of years ago. Muse fans love it, so stick it in there please I've no problem with it myself, but I'd like to see you say that after a while on the board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 with such an awesome staging and set to come, I guess you can't really change the main set They've already changed the main set a few ways since the start of the tour, apparently there's more changes to come as well iirc. As for Supremacy...I mean, I might not mind it if it was rotated with Madness...? Nah, even then, I'd probably prefer Madness. I reckon it'll stay dead and I kinda hope it does tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luigi. Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 I'd gladly take Supremacy over Madness. 1. Assassin 2. Psycho 3. The Small Print 4. Supermassive Black Hole 5. Panic Station 6. Muscle Museum 7. City Of Delusion 8. Citizen Erased 9. Endlessly 10. Megalomania 11. Defector 12. Bliss 13. Unnatural Selection 14. Dead Star 15. Reapers Encore 16. MK Ultra 17. Plug In Baby 18. Survival Encore 19. Space Dementia (Guitar Outro) 20. Stockholm Syndrome + Riffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustyy Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 **Drones** 1. Psycho 2. Map of the Problematique / Bliss 3. Dead Inside 4. Plug in Baby 5. Citizen Erased / Butterflies & Hurricanes 6. The 2nd Law: Isolated System 7. The Handler 8. Interlude + Hysteria 9. Supermassive Black Hole 10. Prelude + Starlight 11. Apocalypse Please / USoE / Sunburn 12. Munich Jam 13. Madness / Supremacy 14. Assassin / Showbiz / Muscle Museum 15. JFK + Revolt / Defector 16. Time is Running Out 17. Uprising 18. Reapers 19. Stockholm Syndrome 20. The Globalist 21. Take a Bow / Fury / MK Ultra 22. Mercy 23. Knights of Cydonia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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