carnage94 Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 I want Sign o' Times and Lithium as B-Sides, but that's just too much to ask I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LewisF Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 If they do b-sides this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonisdead Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 If just like an album of songs which are well thought out, interesting to listen to with a decent number of tracks which could genuinely be good singles - not songs written cause they think they'll be popular but songs that just end up being awesome and good enough to appeal to a bigger audience. This is a very generic definition of a "good" Muse album. "Good" here the way you put it means a record made without any "pop" appeal in mind. An album should inherently be well thought out and interesting to listen to, otherwise critics like Anthony Fantano would rate it a 1-3/10. Music should never be boring or half-baked, *coughs* Linkin Park *cough*. Anyways, saying a "decent number of tracks which could genuinely be good singles" accounts for a pop appeal, which contradicts your point about not written to be pop. A "good single" is a single that sells, and popular music sells. Citizen Erased is a good track, but would not be a "good single" because it's too complex for the typical pop music lover that listens to mainstream radio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frozenbanana Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Ok, let's have a (slightly unwise) go at listing stuff that I think would be great on the new album (and that helped to make other albums so good) Grand, expansive, uplifting, melodic tracks (possibly longer in length) Singles that contain strong guitar rock sensibilities (possibly fused with arty, pop-ish hooks) More innovative guitar work and guitar sounds (use of pedals and other cool gear) Something in Drop D (that doesn’t sound like a rehash of an old Drop D song) Memorable opening riffs or solos Big choruses A song or two that builds and builds into a grand, heavy outro Less stuff with cheesy vocal delivery Less massive genre-hopping from song to song Production that lends a level of cohesiveness to the album, and doesn’t ruin songs such that they sound way heavier live than in studio B-sides that involve some of the above, and can have an argument put forward for them actually being on the album Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 "arty, pop-ish hooks" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frozenbanana Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 "arty, pop-ish hooks" Just knew I wouldn't be able to get away with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanp16 Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 I really don't get the desire for b-sides. A song being a B-side does not make it good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter. Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 I really don't get the desire for b-sides. A song being a B-side does not make it good. people are expecting that they release more obscure stuff as b-sides (songs that wouldn't make it to the album), I guess. but the whole concept is questionable since they don't really make physical copies of singles anymore (iirc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee3Dee Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 I really don't get the desire for b-sides. A song being a B-side does not make it good. More songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LewisF Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 They should release physical copies of their singles along with b-sides because it would fit in with the going back to basics theme of the album. Plus b-sides are good opportunies to experiment and, as Dee said, more songs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdrunner95 Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 I miss collecting singles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forevermusic Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 I want Sign o' Times and Lithium as B-Sides, but that's just too much to ask I guess I like the SoTT cover so a full pro-version of that would be much liked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-FutureStar- Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Did anyone see the email Muse sent out? Confirmed producer and surprise near Christmas! EDIT: Apparently producer was already confirmed... Didn't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Confirmed producer It was already confirmed by Muse themselves last month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdrunner95 Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Did anyone see the email Muse sent out? Confirmed producer and surprise near Christmas! I haven't gotten it yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-FutureStar- Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 It was already confirmed by Muse themselves last month. Oh right, hadn't heard of Mutt Lange before! Email says, at the bottom: "XMAS GIFT Make sure to check your inbox right before Christmas. Santa's been busy in Japan..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LewisF Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 They said that they may do a studio cover of SOTT last tour but never got round to it (as far as I'm aware) so that is a possibility I suppose. Lithium would also be equally as ace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobiiiaaas Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Did anyone see the email Muse sent out? Confirmed producer and surprise near Christmas! Yep seen it, though wasn't Mutt already confirmed? Interesting about the Xmas gift: 'Santa's been busy in Japan...' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobiiiaaas Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 They said that they may do a studio cover of SOTT last tour but never got round to it (as far as I'm aware) so that is a possibility I suppose. Lithium would also be equally as ace. Not too fussed about Sign of the Times but a studio cover of Lithium would be most welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Let's just consider this. Do we really want angst from men in their late thirties? The word implies rather adolescent themes to me. I'm all for anger, fear, etc. but I'd prefer it to be expressed in a more mature way. noun: angst a feeling of deep anxiety or dread, typically an unfocused one about the human condition or the state of the world in general. People just immediately think of "teenage angst" which became an epidemic, which is "angst about trivial matters." I'm pretty sure Muse have been doing the former well into their 30s already. Also, includes a feeling of wanting/needing to overcome the situation, but that hope often being as formless as the worry is. Which to me sums up Muse's music pretty well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Not too fussed about Sign of the Times but a studio cover of Lithium would be most welcome. The opposite for me. Not only is Lithium an incredibly boring song, but the cover doesn't really bring anything new to the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogles. Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 "Santa's been busy in Japan..." Either this is a really cruel troll on Tom's behalf or this will be a pretty good Christmas present, unless it's "Starlight (Live from Zepp DiverCity)." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 The opposite for me. Not only is Lithium an incredibly boring song, but the cover doesn't really bring anything new to the table. Yeah I agree with the Sippe guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonisdead Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 "Santa's been busy in Japan..." Either this is a really cruel troll on Tom's behalf or this will be a pretty good Christmas present, unless it's "Starlight (Live from Zepp DiverCity)." Delete your post lest it give Tom fresh new ideas to jip us out of a good video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Tom doesn't need a reminder to troll the fanbase. I think that's in his job description. I think that's a racial slur, too, btw... Not sure if you were aware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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