toff Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 If you set a pedal before the CS3 it won't compress it. A compressor compresses the audio running into it...? I r confused? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samcoma Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 I r confused? Guitar>cs3>compressed signal into anything else you're running into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dramatic Hammer Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 Guitar>cs3>compressed signal into anything else you're running into. Doesn't mean it won't be compressing if you put it after other pedals though does it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samcoma Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 Doesn't mean it won't be compressing if you put it after other pedals though does it! Ah I see what you meant now Only difference is tonal differences depending in which order you have your chain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dramatic Hammer Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 Ah I see what you meant now Only difference is tonal differences depending in which order you have your chain. Yes. basically whether you want your transients fucked with pre or post fx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samcoma Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 Yes. basically whether you want your transients fucked with pre or post fx Bah that's why I don't use compression anymore Although having said that I'm about to probably get a cheap Alesis 3630. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dramatic Hammer Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 Bah that's why I don't use compression anymore Although having said that I'm about to probably get a cheap Alesis 3630. It's worth having a half-decent one around but the cs-3 should be banned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samcoma Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 It's worth having a half-decent one around but the cs-3 should be banned Agreed the CS-3 should be taken out of production! The 3630 although a rack of course defeats the CS-3 hands down. And they're both the same price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_man361 Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 Bah that's why I don't use compression anymore Although having said that I'm about to probably get a cheap Alesis 3630. the 3630 is a great compressor for the price... of course it beats the CS3 into the floor because for a start it has proper controls (hah) but also sounds okay. that and its a dual channel compressor and supports sidechaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toff Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 Needz0r Helpz0r Boss OS-2 overdrive/distortion(set for distortion) Boss BD-2 blues overdrive Boss TU-2 Tunerr Boss PW-10 Wah Boss DD-3 delay Digitech Whammy reissue USA Big Muff Alesis 3630 compressor I r own quite teh collection now Suggestions for order plz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theanatomyofguns Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 Needz0r Helpz0r Boss OS-2 overdrive/distortion(set for distortion) Boss BD-2 blues overdrive Boss TU-2 Tunerr Boss PW-10 Wah Boss DD-3 delay Digitech Whammy reissue USA Big Muff Alesis 3630 compressor I r own quite teh collection now Suggestions for order plz? I would go: Tuner > Compressor > Whammy > Blues OD > OD/Dist > Big Muff > Wah > Delay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bshuker Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 Tuner > Wah > Whammy > Compressor > Blues OD > OD/Dist > Big Muff > Delay I think this is a bit of an improvement. Delay in the fx loop aswell if possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spyke Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 Sorry to bump this but... Â What order should my pedals be in? I've got a Daphon Wah, a Daphon Phaser, a Fab Echo, and an Axl Distortion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 Why is it that people thnk compressors should go first? Pedals respond to your playing dynamics - by compressing them you reduce the amount that the pedals will be effected. Dynamic filters and Overdrives in particular - put your compressor after! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_man361 Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 Why is it that people thnk compressors should go first? Pedals respond to your playing dynamics - by compressing them you reduce the amount that the pedals will be effected. Dynamic filters and Overdrives in particular - put your compressor after! Â and then if you put the compressor after, youll have a more consistent level. depends what you're after i guess... e.g. if you want to have a more consistent level before or after pedalz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 and then if you put the compressor after, youll have a more consistent level. depends what you're after i guess... e.g. if you want to have a more consistent level before or after pedalz  Yeh, obviously, but I can't ever imagine a situation where you would want a more consistent level before pedals that respond to dynamic changes. I suppose i'm being close-minded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze015 Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 Why is it that people thnk compressors should go first? Pedals respond to your playing dynamics - by compressing them you reduce the amount that the pedals will be effected. Dynamic filters and Overdrives in particular - put your compressor after! Â a common use of compression by guitarists is to boost distortion pedals or channels on amps. which has resulting in everyone going along with the comp goes first thing. Â personally wouldn't use compressors with guitar unless it's post everything when recording Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brinstar Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 right  what are people's views on where a volume pedal should be placed? i plan to put one into my board to do swells, but not sure where. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bshuker Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 Well you get a similar effect whether it is pre or post gain so it's up to you really. If you have it pre-gain you can use it as like your guitar's volume control and clean up the sound if you wish, or if you've got it post-distortion (or in the effects loop pre-delay) you can use it more as a master volume (depending on the type of effects loop you have it may not work (parallel loops where you can't have 100% wet specifically)). Â It's more or less easiest just to put it towards the start of the chain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 If you want your swells to swell the gain in a dirt pedal of some sort, put the pedal before that. If you don't want variation in your dirt, but want swells, put the volume pedal after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samcoma Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 If you want your swells to swell the gain in a dirt pedal of some sort, put the pedal before that. If you don't want variation in your dirt, but want swells, put the volume pedal after. Can I put my penis in the chain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 I am assuming you're the guy with the 1/4" cock? (I can't quite remember) If so, yeh, but put it at the start of your chain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samcoma Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Excellent now I can be just like Bellamy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brinstar Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Well you get a similar effect whether it is pre or post gain so it's up to you really. If you have it pre-gain you can use it as like your guitar's volume control and clean up the sound if you wish, or if you've got it post-distortion (or in the effects loop pre-delay) you can use it more as a master volume (depending on the type of effects loop you have it may not work (parallel loops where you can't have 100% wet specifically)). It's more or less easiest just to put it towards the start of the chain. If you want your swells to swell the gain in a dirt pedal of some sort, put the pedal before that. If you don't want variation in your dirt, but want swells, put the volume pedal after. thank you both of you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james90 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 not necessarily a question about the order of effects, however... I've heard some people put their wah pedals in their effects loops - how much of a sound difference is there vs. putting it in front? don't have a working wah pedal at the moment, so i can't try. for example, tom morello - not sure what order his effects are in, but i know his wah is in his JCM 800s loop. i know it sounds different (microphone fiend intro is a good example) from regular wah sounds, but... i've also realized tim wheeler (of ash) actually has that f**k load of effects BEFORE the wah pedal, and everything is in the effects loop of his triple rectifier (including the wah) i don't understand how that doesn't sound absolutely awful...actually has a really cutting sound. basically, should i bother setting my rack up so i have everything in the loop? it's just going to have a few effects really..some modulation, compression, delay, etc. nothing much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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