Loadius Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 Break it to me. Shite Timberland embarrassment. I can't understand the love for it, yet GL gets such hate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 Timbaland had nothing to do with Break It To Me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loadius Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 Timbaland had nothing to do with Break It To Me. Not what i said. Maybe if i had dropped in 'clone' it would clarify it for you. I don't like the song, no amount of weird noises can't make up for, in my opinion a quite boring song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forevermusic Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 I quite liked Guiding Light for a while but its one of the few Muse tracks I think sounded better in studio than on record. Which kinda killed my enthusiasm for it. Big Freeze is the primary one I can think of worse. Quite like Chris' T2L songs and Explorers, so I'm not going to note those down. Aftermath I'm unsure of because I skip it as reflex and have since forgotten what it sounded like. Which is weird. Might need to cram Showbiz - haven't really listened to half of it for a very long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odier Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 Not what i said. Maybe if i had dropped in 'clone' it would clarify it for you. I don't like the song, no amount of weird noises can't make up for, in my opinion a quite boring song. Oh oh it's you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 Not what i said. Maybe if i had dropped in 'clone' it would clarify it for you. I don't like the song, no amount of weird noises can't make up for, in my opinion a quite boring song.Well considering Timbaland actually contributed on another album track it sounded more like you got Propaganda and BITM confused, especially with your descriptions of BITM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukePT Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 MK Ultra, Unnatural Selection, I Belong To You. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
static shadows Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 (edited) I mean, there are a fair few bad Muse tracks, but worse than Guiding Light? Neutron Star Collision, Explorers, The Big Freeze, Aftermath, Save Me and Dig Down are definitely all up there. Er... down there. Otherwise, as with Guiding Light, I also find it near impossible to listen to all of Madness, both parts of The 2nd Law, and Follow Me without skipping. I fear Get Up and Fight and Thought Contagion may go the same route (although the latter's more due to that one line than musically). I guess Invincible is minutely better than Guiding Light... But there's not much in it. The Defector's almost endearingly bad, so maybe just about escapes. Oh, and The Globalist deserves a mention simply for trying to trick you into thinking 8 mins of mind-numbing awful is worth listening to thanks to being briefly interrupted by an unrelated tacked-on section containing 2 minutes of awesome. I mean, that's just a betrayal. Or awful songwriting. Edited November 24, 2018 by Static Shadows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 both parts of The 2nd Law Isolated System deserves better than that, Static. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
static shadows Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 Isolated System deserves better than that, Static. I'm not sure it does. It does start with that pleasant Exorcist-knock off piano line and beat, but they clearly couldn't be arsed to develop into an actual track, so have it endlessly repeat while news clips play over it to make it sound important. It's 5 mins long and the last 3 mins of that are utterly redundant. It ends up as a brief pretty demo extended into a waste of time. Or a sequel to The Gallery with less direction, atmosphere and actual songwriting. I still probably wouldn't include it as being worse than/on a par with Guiding Light if it was a b-side separated from Unsustainable. But Muse clearly wanted us to think of them as movements of one underwritten, half-arsed, over-long piece, so it's going in there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 The last two minutes of it are absolutely gorgeous. The beat and piano might be repetitive but the stuff going on with the strings, choir and synth at the end is one of the most beautiful things Matt has ever written. Don't think I'm gonna convince you but I would urge you to give this another look Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roryj02 Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 The last two minutes of it are absolutely gorgeous. The beat and piano might be repetitive but the stuff going on with the strings, choir and synth at the end is one of the most beautiful things Matt has ever written. Don't think I'm gonna convince you but I would urge you to give this another look 100% agree. The ending of The Void has a similar vibe, but it comes nothing close to this. Also, did Matt know he was writing this for WWZ or did they ask for the rights to it afterwards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 It was afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopix Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 The last two minutes of it are absolutely gorgeous. The beat and piano might be repetitive but the stuff going on with the strings, choir and synth at the end is one of the most beautiful things Matt has ever written. Don't think I'm gonna convince you but I would urge you to give this another look Agreed. The point in the track is it has a repetitive couple of layers from the start that are built on top of, increasing in complexity but keeping the hook as time goes on. Brilliant track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loadius Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 Well considering Timbaland actually contributed on another album track it sounded more like you got Propaganda and BITM confused, especially with your descriptions of BITM. You know what, you are one of a number of posters that sit on this board ready to jump on and bully anyone with a contrary view to your own. Maybe you spend too much time on here and should as a normal 27 year old get out and enjoy life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heyjackk Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 The last two minutes of it are absolutely gorgeous. The beat and piano might be repetitive but the stuff going on with the strings, choir and synth at the end is one of the most beautiful things Matt has ever written. Don't think I'm gonna convince you but I would urge you to give this another look It's a weird one for me. I can completely appreciate what you're saying here and I agree that the strings in particular are pretty gorgeous but I just find it goes on far too long and I get a little bored by it. Might get slaughtered for it but I actually kinda prefer the abridged version they use live these days if I'm honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loadius Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 Oh oh it's you Great response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartianSpaghettiRider Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 You know what, you are one of a number of posters that sit on this board ready to jump on and bully anyone with a contrary view to your own. Maybe you spend too much time on here and should as a normal 27 year old get out and enjoy life. Whoa, calm down, man. What was so triggering about his comment? He just said he felt like you got the two tracks confused, with no intent of insulting you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManiaMuse Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Aww come on, it's not the worst thing they have ever written... 1. Jimmy Kane 2. Pink Ego Box 3. Revolt 4. Soldier's Poem 5. Prague (technically a cover but it is still awful) 6. Big Freeze 7. Explorers 8. Undisclosed Desires 9. Isolated System 10. Save Me 11. Con-Science 12. Aftermath 13. The Globalist 14. Neutron Star Collision 15. Unnatural Selection 16. Exo Politics (recorded version) 17. Crying Shame (recorded version) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LewisF Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 11. Con-Science There’s a couple of others I disagree with but this is just blasphemous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Whoa, calm down, man. What was so triggering about his comment? He just said he felt like you got the two tracks confused, with no intent of insulting you.I mean some of it is fair of my time here overall so I’m not gonna make a big deal out of it. I can assure him that I’m out enjoying life despite posting here though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Little Animal Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 This thread almost makes me want to double check and listen to Guiding Light to see if I’m misremembering its awfulness. Almost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopix Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Guiding Light is good tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zepp Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 I haven't seen IS mentionned as worse than GL I haven't. No. No. zre*g,etrlngerlkzgnlekmrjhmqdkhùstpkjùryjkrsmljkmdjhs<ùrkjh^zqtrffjhoesjhestjryj575rdyjk6rsyjlethjkphqerjhpqzhjrmlyzypoy^qeyrk^'hypkestpojhes^kjp^tojptojhpestjhpjtrpfyjhsr^t'pjfyês Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManiaMuse Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 There’s a couple of others I disagree with but this is just blasphemous It takes forever to go anywhere and builds up to a fairly underwhelming and repetitive climax imo. Would have probably made a good Radiohead song in many ways (and I suppose it comes from the era when people were always making the Radiohead comparisons). Similar to Exit Music For a Film with the quiet/acoustic section - build up - loud/distorted section structure but much less interesting musically. It also reminds me a bit of The Void which suffers from a similar structural problem imo, just without the wub wubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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