Frakkles Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Always one for an argument, Fabri and I were discussing what songs were and weren't shit live so I came up with this. Had a quick search and couldn't find a thread specifically for this so thought I'd make one. Rather than just leaving this open to debate whatever you wish, I'll start specifically with the discussion Fabri and I were having about Starlight and Supermassive Black Hole. I personally feel like Starlight isn't that bad of a song live and is a nice sing along even if it isn't the best song Muse have in their catalogue. Fabri seems to think it's shit, should die a horrible death and should never come back. As far as Supermassive goes, I think it's a fair song live but nothing special whereas Fabri thinks it's one of their better song live (I'm sort of paraphrasing). I don't entirely disagree, I just think quite a few songs are a lot better. Of course, you are welcome to debate this if you so wish as well as give your personal opinions on how good certain songs are live, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frakkles Posted May 28, 2013 Author Share Posted May 28, 2013 I only did it so other people could tell you you're wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will_ Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Cool idea Starlight and Supermassive are both good and fun live, to me anyway. That's often the case with the better known songs; more people know them so the atmosphere is just waaayyy better for them Best live songs (based on the gigs I've been to): Knights TIRO Butterflies Worst: Guiding Light Blackout (pains me to say that when I see it from Wembley 07, but it really wasn't great at the Emirates) Explorers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frakkles Posted May 28, 2013 Author Share Posted May 28, 2013 I think that performance of Blackout was one where if you're closer to the cat-walk or the B-Stage, it's better because you're close to both the band and the acrobat so it feels a little more intimate whereas if you're further back, I can imagine you feel a little left out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrebleRose689 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Okay, I'll bite I like both Starlight and SMBH live, but I would definitely say that SMBH isn't anything special (though it's certainly good live), and neither is Starlight, but the sing-along is fun. It's just an awful closer Here are my personal lists for best & worst live songs I've seen. Best: Dead Star Bliss Citizen Erased Butterflies & Hurricanes Knights of Cydonia Stockholm Syndrome Worst: Undisclosed Desires Guiding Light Explorers (though I do enjoy it on the album) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty987 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Hate time Deadstar at Coventry surprised me with how generic it sounded. Maybe it was just the crowd but it didn't give me any sort of wow feeling compared to the first time i heard CE and Butterflies Edit: Also nothing sticks in my mind more than the first (and only) time i've seen Map live. I wanna see it again to make sure it wasen't just first gig excitement but i hold it as the best song ive ever heard by any band live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will_ Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 I think that performance of Blackout was one where if you're closer to the cat-walk or the B-Stage, it's better because you're close to both the band and the acrobat so it feels a little more intimate whereas if you're further back, I can imagine you feel a little left out. Yeah, that was something to do with it. But it generally just wasn't that great The acrobat and lightbulb was cool, but the fact that they'd done similar stuff before at the Wembley gigs kind of ruined the novelty of it... That and Matt just pissed Sammy and I off a bit during it "Ahhh, don't have to play guitar for this, GREAT" "In fact, let's have a lie down" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Hysteria, Resistance, New Born, Knights, Stockholm, Sunburn, Uprising, Survival were all huge at my gigs. Starlight gets a good crowd reaction but it's shit. Explorers is the worst song they could ever play live, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frakkles Posted May 28, 2013 Author Share Posted May 28, 2013 Not playing the Guitar takes away from it for me too but I'd rather see the song that way now than not ever see it. That's the way I look at it. I definitely enjoyed it but I do feel like it could and should have been better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 I personally feel like Starlight isn't that bad of a song live and is a nice sing along even if it isn't the best song Muse have in their catalogue. I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben93 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Would say at the moment Stockholm Syndrome was far and away my favourite live song from this tour. Bliss/Sunburn/Butterflies and Hurricanes were all really good as well SMBH is alright but i always think it could be better and more lively, Starlight is a good enough live song just no guitar and closing the show on this tour is still a daft idea... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frakkles Posted May 28, 2013 Author Share Posted May 28, 2013 Took all the songs I've seen live and ordered them from best to worst. (Not 100% on them but it's probably mostly right/close to right) Stockholm Syndrome Megalomania Supremacy MK Ultra Bliss Dead Star Unnatural Selection Take A Bow Butterflies & Hurricanes United States of Eurasia Knights Of Cydonia Uprising Survival Panic Station I Belong To You The 2nd Law: Unsustainable Animals Sunburn Plug In Baby Citizen Erased Ruled By Secrecy Map Of The Problematique Liquid State Hysteria Supermassive Black Hole Follow Me Starlight Blackout Darkshines Time Is Running Out Space Dementia Micro Cuts Exogenesis: Symphony, Part 1: Overture Explorers Hyper Music Madness Screenager Falling Down Resistance The 2nd Law: Isolated System Neutron Star Collision (Love Is Forever) New Born Unintended Undisclosed Desires Feeling Good Soldier's Poem Guiding Light Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 How is Explorers better live than Hyper Music and New Born.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frakkles Posted May 28, 2013 Author Share Posted May 28, 2013 Cos it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
static shadows Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Explorers is the worst song ...ever. It is indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Not nearly as impressive of a list, and maybe a bit rushed, but I'll try. Butterflies & Hurricanes Stockholm Syndrome Citizen Erased Unnatural Selection Survival MK Ultra New Born United States of Eurasia Plug In Baby Animals Knights of Cydonia Unsustainable Map of the Problematique Sunburn Uprising Panic Station Liquid State Hysteria Supremacy Starlight Madness Exo Pt 1 Supermassive Follow Me Time Is Running Out Resistance Feeling Good UD Guiding Light Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frakkles Posted May 28, 2013 Author Share Posted May 28, 2013 Supremacy so low? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben93 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 10/10 for effort on that list! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 The verses were just kinda eh for me. Riff was decent headbanging but there's better songs for that. Note that I don't really start to dislike anything until around TIRO. I was a bit torn on the middle section for that reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frakkles Posted May 28, 2013 Author Share Posted May 28, 2013 You fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mskatie Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Maybe later I'll do a full list, but for now I'll do a *tentative* top three/bottom three. BEST Sunburn MK Ultra/MOTP Follow Me NOT THE BEST Liquid State Guiding Light Undisclosed Desires Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zolic Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Best: (no particular order) Knights of Cydonia Map of the Problematique Darkshines Butteflies and Hurricanes Bliss Blackout Worst: Starlight Resistance Feeling Good Undisclosed Desires Guiding Light Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee3Dee Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 I prefer Supermassive to Starlight. That said, I'm not really bothered about either of them. I can see why they are in the set (aside from being really popular singles), but I wouldn't miss them if they were dropped for good at some point. As far as best live songs go? Too close to call in a lot of cases. Muse have a very rich collection of songs that (for the most part) are fucking awesome. And obviously that's why we're all fans. Ranking their best live songs is really tricky because of that, because there are so many live songs that are absolutely incredible in their own way, and are -at least- as good as each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Going mainly from what I've seen: Best: Dead Star Hyper Music (surprised how little this has been mentioned) Stockholm Syndrome Assassin Butterflies & Hurricanes Bliss Space Dementia Ruled By Secrecy Knights Of Cydonia Citizen Erased Worst: Guiding Light Undisclosed Desires Feeling Good TIRO Save Me Screenager (Hate to say it, but I was a bit bored. If so many people weren't talking through it, it might have been different but I guess I'll never know) Starlight Resistance Soldier's Poem Explorers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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