Clunge Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Maybe so. But it kinda discredits the whole 'world's best live band' schtick if you have to touch it up in the studio afterwards. The joy of live music is partly the imperfection. Muse don't seem to understand this. Plus, I've just remember Starlight is closing. Ergh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 "correcting" it isn't a big deal for me but yeah, unnecessary. Clunge i totally see your point and agree, but the stadium tour was about anything but imperfection, wasn't it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunge Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 True. But they shouldn't be afraid of it. Again, as I've said so many times, it's this horrendous pursuit of the perfect, catch all product. T2L was the same - cover as much ground as possible to appeal to as many people as possible. It's music and performances for people with little to no attention spans. Whereas Origin or Absolution, or Glastonbury 2004 or Reading 2011, sound as good now as they ever have because they are cohesive pieces of work, similarly brilliant but not without their flaws which make them what they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nipso Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 True. But they shouldn't be afraid of it. Again, as I've said so many times, it's this horrendous pursuit of the perfect, catch all product. T2L was the same - cover as much ground as possible to appeal to as many people as possible. It's music and performances for people with little to no attention spans. Whereas Origin or Absolution, or Glastonbury 2004 or Reading 2011, sound as good now as they ever have because they are cohesive pieces of work, similarly brilliant but not without their flaws which make them what they are. From the noises that are being made, the next album may be right up your street then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunge Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 I've been through four album cycles with Muse - they say the same things EVERY time. They never happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyper Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Watched the film in cinema yesterday. It is just OK. Only by the end I really enjoyed it, especially Survival and Uprising. One moment which was very weired is cutting from Unsustainable intro into Supremacy. Why would one do that? Could not understand it. Surpisingly, Guiding Light was filmed to make the song enjoyable. Otherwise, meeh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nipso Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 I've been through four album cycles with Muse - they say the same things EVERY time. They never happen. Oh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn. Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Surpisingly, Guiding Light was filmed to make the song enjoyable. Post details, as oppose to a lot of people, i always enjoyed the solo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadStaaar Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 True. But they shouldn't be afraid of it. Again, as I've said so many times, it's this horrendous pursuit of the perfect, catch all product. T2L was the same - cover as much ground as possible to appeal to as many people as possible. It's music and performances for people with little to no attention spans. Whereas Origin or Absolution, or Glastonbury 2004 or Reading 2011, sound as good now as they ever have because they are cohesive pieces of work, similarly brilliant but not without their flaws which make them what they are. Completely agree. I think cutting songs from the DVD would come under this too, all it does is break up the experience of the gig. One minute we'll see them playing TIRO on the main stage, next it'll be GL on the b stage and I imagine this sort of thing will take the viewer out of the experience. It kind of annoys me that this is the only live release so far on what has been a fantastic tour. Now watch them cut the Zepp down to the second encore... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 I really wouldn't mind if the cut the standard songs out of the Zepp show, and just showed the rarities and costumes, tbh. I thought the entire sound mix during Survival was off... Either that, or the hipster cinema I was at just had terrible sound in general. The backing vocals sounded extremely odd and distracting, and it was actually quite hard to hear Matt at all. I found myself wondering if this wasn't why it is omitted from the CD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HannahG123 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Post details, as oppose to a lot of people, i always enjoyed the solo I enjoyed the solo at etihad too. They have the lightbulb and show shots of the crowd 'crying' at the end which is quite funny. Plus matt gets the crowd to shout at the drum parts which doesn't really fit imo but still was a bit of fun. I found UD a lot more exciting to watch because you got to see matt and the crowd's facial expressions/reactions I really wouldn't mind if the cut the standard songs out of the Zepp show, and just showed the rarities and costumes, tbh. I thought the entire sound mix during Survival was off... Either that, or the hipster cinema I was at just had terrible sound in general. The backing vocals sounded extremely odd and distracting, and it was actually quite hard to hear Matt at all. I found myself wondering if this wasn't why it is omitted from the CD. I thought the sound was incredible, best I'd ever heard muse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 I thought the sound during all of the show but Survival was fantastic. The crowd noise could have been dialed down a notch or two, but I can understand why they made that choice. There was something definitely wrong with Survival when I saw it, though. The backing vocals sounded almost digitized, and didn't seem to be completely in synch with what was going on. Matt's voice was hard to hear, and the final notes were drowned out entirely. At least when I saw it. The barrier walk during UD was actually pretty amusing; loved watching Matt smile and laugh during singing the song. Was cute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryoma-kun Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 I thought the sound during all of the show but Survival was fantastic. The crowd noise could have been dialed down a notch or two, but I can understand why they made that choice. There was something definitely wrong with Survival when I saw it, though. The backing vocals sounded almost digitized, and didn't seem to be completely in synch with what was going on. Matt's voice was hard to hear, and the final notes were drowned out entirely. At least when I saw it. The barrier walk during UD was actually pretty amusing; loved watching Matt smile and laugh during singing the song. Was cute. That's how they sound. Should remove them completely imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 That's how they sound. Should remove them completely imo. They must not have been as noticeable when I was at the live gigs, but they were terribly obvious during the film. Should definitely be removed. (Or never have been there! ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJUltra Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Does anyone know if showcase cinemas are in 4k yet? (Preferably the Bluewater one) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user0e507dded9 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 As far as I am aware all of the Showcase cinemas are in 4k! I had a choice of Cineworld or Showcase both within 15 minutes of me, choose the Showcase as I knew they definitely had the 4K setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryoma-kun Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Ok, that was underwhelming. I'm not sure whether it was down to the cinema not having properly audio-settings for a concert or if it was just bad mixing, but the sound felt flat and lacked punch. All the instruments and vocal kinda melted together into some mushy soup. The setlist was as expected, really, really bad. What the fuck were they thinking not cutting Explorers? The split-screen during Animals and Feeling Good was a shit idea, making the show feel even more distant than in real-life. Every time there were parts that the crowd was supposed to sing along to, the audio levels were so significantly increased that it felt embarrassing, most noticeably during Plug in Baby. And people were right, they actually layered the G#5 on top of the Eb5 at the end of Survival. What a fucking stupid thing to do If you can't sing it, then don't pretend you can. /end rant Plus: Really good quality visually and a good performance by the band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunge Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Exactly as I feared. . Muse™. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryoma-kun Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Hey, on the good side, my friends who are casual Muse fans liked it pretty good. In summary meaning this movie is a success because that is what Muse was aiming for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 And people were right, they actually layered the G#5 on top of the Eb5 at the end of Survival. What a fucking stupid thing to do If you can't sing it, then don't pretend you can. lol Muse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Wait, layered on top? Couldn't they pitch that bit higher? lel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Wait, layered on top? Couldn't they pitch that bit higher? lel lol no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 lol no. lul why? lal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 lul why? lal omg because it would sound awful pls lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee3Dee Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Ok, that was underwhelming. I'm not sure whether it was down to the cinema not having properly audio-settings for a concert or if it was just bad mixing, but the sound felt flat and lacked punch. All the instruments and vocal kinda melted together into some mushy soup. The setlist was as expected, really, really bad. What the fuck were they thinking not cutting Explorers? The split-screen during Animals and Feeling Good was a shit idea, making the show feel even more distant than in real-life. Every time there were parts that the crowd was supposed to sing along to, the audio levels were so significantly increased that it felt embarrassing, most noticeably during Plug in Baby. And people were right, they actually layered the G#5 on top of the Eb5 at the end of Survival. What a fucking stupid thing to do If you can't sing it, then don't pretend you can. /end rant Plus: Really good quality visually and a good performance by the band. Somehow I'm not surprised by any of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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