kueller Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 I agree with Sippe, I really enjoy the TOTP performance. It sounds so raw in every way. But generally, there aren't many 'standout' performances of MM as I've found atleast. Earl's Court, Glastonbury etc are quite good aswell. http://board.muse.mu/showthread.php?t=55589&page=45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryoma-kun Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 http://board.muse.mu/showthread.php?t=55589&page=45 That's what I meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nipso Posted January 14, 2012 Author Share Posted January 14, 2012 I agree with Sippe, I really enjoy the TOTP performance. It sounds so raw in every way. But generally, there aren't many 'standout' performances of MM as I've found atleast. Earl's Court, Glastonbury etc are quite good aswell. Does he wimp out on his vocals in it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryoma-kun Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Does he wimp out on his vocals in it? No, those performances were back when Muse was still a rock band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayFan9876 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 well, if you can't sing it, why record it? studio is a magical place, but i think they shouldn't record stuff that cannot be played live like it's supposed to. it's as if he recorded some crazy ass guitar that took 248 takes to get right, and it sounds wicked, but live he just messes around or plays some simplified (and therefore boring) version. that wouldn't be good for the best-live-act reputation now would it? I think this is a stupid opinion. The album version is by far the most heard, so why wouldn't they want to make it sound as good as possible? Why wouldn't anybody? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 I think this is a stupid opinion. The album version is by far the most heard, so why wouldn't they want to make it sound as good as possible? Why wouldn't anybody?Haven't you been banned yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will_ Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Haven't you been banned yet? I think this about you everyday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 I think this about you everyday I would. But it did get a little boring without him. Just a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 I think this about you everyday You're just upset because I beat your arguments. I would. But it did get a little boring without him. Just a little.Indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will_ Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 You're just upset because I beat your arguments. But as I mentioned yesterday or whenever, your life blood is arguments so therefore you're impossible to beat edit: Damn, just look at my spectacular grammar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayFan9876 Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Haven't you been banned yet? Nope. I only have one in-tact infraction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaking Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 I think this is a stupid opinion. The album version is by far the most heard, so why wouldn't they want to make it sound as good as possible? Why wouldn't anybody? Its hardly a stupid opinion. You might disagree with it but Matt and Dom are often asked if they have to hold certain things back in studio because they have such a reputation as a live band and they wouldn't be able to reproduce certain things live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayFan9876 Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Its hardly a stupid opinion. You might disagree with it but Matt and Dom are often asked if they have to hold certain things back in studio because they have such a reputation as a live band and they wouldn't be able to reproduce certain things live. Then people are asking stupid questions. Muse don't have to hold back, they can do whatever and be the bestest always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Then people are asking stupid questions. Muse don't have to hold back, they can do whatever and be the bestest always. I expect nothing less from a 5 year old I'm fine with the band going free and not holding back, but I think maybe they should focus on going at some styles instead of fitting a bunch of things into one album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaking Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 I expect nothing less from a 5 year old + She is Canadian so it's even worse ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayFan9876 Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 + She is Canadian so it's even worse ... You're a French Canadian, that's even worser. I'm fine with the band going free and not holding back, but I think maybe they should focus on going at some styles instead of fitting a bunch of things into one album. By "style," do you mean consistency? Personally I found an inconsistent style to be one of my favourite parts about them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaking Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 You're a French Canadian, that's even worser. Pff might live in Quebec but im 100% English and just so this post is on topic I disagree with anything Sippe said about Matt's Vocals. They are the best EVAR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayFan9876 Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Pff might live in Quebec but im 100% English and just so this post is on topic I disagree with anything Sippe said about Matt's Vocals. They are the best EVAR! YEAH OLOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 By "style," do you mean consistency? Personally I found an inconsistent style to be one of my favourite parts about them. I guess you could say direction. Still not the best word. Just avoiding the over the top that happens when you throw every little idea but without a sense of why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdeboer01 Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 I guess you could say direction. Still not the best word. Just avoiding the over the top that happens when you throw every little idea but without a sense of why. Too many ingredients can make a dish taste like butt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze015 Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 I thought it had been confirmed that Matt had vocal training just before BH&R? Can't remember where I read this because it was quite a long time ago now. But no, I don't think effects are the answer. For Radiohead it makes sense because (especially on Lotus Flower IIRC) they are quite an electronic band and use loopers in lots of places. Plus it would feel like he was, not to sound petty but, cheating in a way. It's like using an effect on his voice to raise it an octave so he can reach the last note on Showbiz. Muse "cheat" in a lot of other ways when performing live. Radiohead are actually more of a "live" band despite being more electronic. No idea what this thread is about. A musician will hear their own songs far too many times to give a shit about perfection, performing live is not about perfection. Studio production is about perfection and creating the "ultimate" version of the song and being to do things that aren't possible on stage, the two should never be compared. Matt, like many other musicians, plays an instrument while singing and will do up to like 20 in a row during a gig in what is generally a hot environment in front of thousands of people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Matt, like many other musicians, plays an instrument while singing and will do up to like 20 in a row during a gig in what is generally a hot environment in front of thousands of people. 20 what? Oh and the thread has nothing to do with perfection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyraSilvertongue Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 20 what? . Songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Songs. Oh...obviously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Studio production is about perfection and creating the "ultimate" version of the song and being to do things that aren't possible on stage, the two should never be compared. So, for example, the original 2001 recording of Plug in Baby is the ultimate version of that song? Even now that they have Morgan as an additional live member and they are 10 years older (=with more experience)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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