jdeboer01 Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Do it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdeboer01 Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Post it anyway! :phu: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 WHY???? I was going to post my cover anyway. Now I'm not. Mission accomplished! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdeboer01 Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Mission accomplished! Clever. Very clever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wriinkly feet Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 To answer your question simply. Yes, very... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kingcools Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Well, to be fair, even Freddy Mercury did not sing live as he did on studio versions.(can be heard in almost every live version of any song). Consider a) matt is a bit older now b) they try to make perfect gigs now c) they tour for very long time now d) he has to practise to hit those high chest notes/high falsetto notes without straining his voice too much ina live concert(where he has to continue singing for another good amount of time). When touring singing this every single time for a long time will hurt his voice. So he could only do it once in while, but then he would not have the practise to do it and i, myself, wouldnt practise it for just like 1 gig once every half year or something. I dont see anything wrong tbh. edit: and when you talk about how he hits notes in between different songs he does not sing during a given song dont take that out of context. the difficulty of a note depends on the context its used in. How you have to sing it(e.g. hit a note spot on without sliding to it from below is harder than with sliding) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Well, to be fair, even Freddy Mercury did not sing live as he did on studio versions.(can be heard in almost every live version of any song). Consider a) matt is a bit older now b) they try to make perfect gigs now c) they tour for very long time now d) he has to practise to hit those high chest notes/high falsetto notes without straining his voice too much ina live concert(where he has to continue singing for another good amount of time). When touring singing this every single time for a long time will hurt his voice. So he could only do it once in while, but then he would not have the practise to do it and i, myself, wouldnt practise it for just like 1 gig once every half year or something. I dont see anything wrong tbh. Everything you've said has points made against it all the way through this thread. Read back a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Well, to be fair, even Freddy Mercury did not sing live as he did on studio versions.(can be heard in almost every live version of any song). Consider a) matt is a bit older now b) they try to make perfect gigs now c) they tour for very long time now d) he has to practise to hit those high chest notes/high falsetto notes without straining his voice too much ina live concert(where he has to continue singing for another good amount of time). When touring singing this every single time for a long time will hurt his voice. So he could only do it once in while, but then he would not have the practise to do it and i, myself, wouldnt practise it for just like 1 gig once every half year or something. I dont see anything wrong tbh. edit: and when you talk about how he hits notes in between different songs he does not sing during a given song dont take that out of context. the difficulty of a note depends on the context its used in. How you have to sing it(e.g. hit a note spot on without sliding to it from below is harder than with sliding) Freddie had nodules and was sick for a long time. Oh and, "When touring singing this every single time for a long time will hurt his voice. So he could only do it once in while, but then he would not have the practise to do it and i, myself, wouldnt practise it for just like 1 gig once every half year or something." This is nonsense. And finally "hit a note spot on without sliding to it from below is harder than with sliding", good thing that the B4 isn't a sliding note then, unlike the G4 in Resistance which he has time to build up for. Same with for example the A4 in Feeling Good which is one of his easiest high notes in that aspect. Maybe you should try listening to the examples in the thread before passing judgements on how hard they are? EDIT: To make it clear, Freddie avoided notes because he couldn't sing them, Matt avoids notes because he's scared of failing or because he thinks it's too much effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paranoiawilldestroy Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 I'm going out on a limb here... Singing isn't just a vocal quality, tis also an imaginative quality. Having done all the hard work of telling his parentals he wanted to follow a career in music, listened to all his mates telling him to get a proper job and then blowing them away, I reckon Bellamy is entitled to make albums his way and indulge himself in the studio. Yeah, cool, he has a certain responsibility to fans of the band. But since musical taste is largely socialised and Muse have always been known for pushing boundaries... Fair play to them for wanting to continue that pedigree. Reckon a more interesting question would be... Will Muse be harrangued into getting progressively more mainstream by their fatcat/ care-nothing-but-how-much-is-in-their-wallets benefactors withinTime Warner? I know I'm kinda contradicting meself here but before Muse there wasn't really anybody like them. I think we've forgotton that in the fourteen years since Showbiz and... Dunno what I'm trying to say. Stuck between defending the band who were my spiritual awakening to good music and the fear I have for their future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdeboer01 Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 I'm going out on a limb here... Singing isn't just a vocal quality, tis also an imaginative quality. Having done all the hard work of telling his parentals he wanted to follow a career in music, listened to all his mates telling him to get a proper job and then blowing them away, I reckon Bellamy is entitled to make albums his way and indulge himself in the studio. Yeah, cool, he has a certain responsibility to fans of the band. But since musical taste is largely socialised and Muse have always been known for pushing boundaries... Fair play to them for wanting to continue that pedigree. Reckon a more interesting question would be... Will Muse be harrangued into getting progressively more mainstream by their fatcat/ care-nothing-but-how-much-is-in-their-wallets benefactors withinTime Warner? I know I'm kinda contradicting meself here but before Muse there wasn't really anybody like them. I think we've forgotton that in the fourteen years since Showbiz and... Dunno what I'm trying to say. Stuck between defending the band who were my spiritual awakening to good music and the fear I have for their future. Interesting thoughts... but they have nothing to do with the subject of the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paranoiawilldestroy Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Don't like being lazy with my replies. But no, I don't think old Bellamy is being lazy with his vocals.Rather think that his vision can't always match his voice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdeboer01 Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Don't like being lazy with my replies. But no, I don't think old Bellamy is being lazy with his vocals.Rather think that his vision can't always match his voice. I still don't think you're "getting" the gist of the thread. Which is that Matt sings certain things in chest on recordings, but then wimps out live on the same lyrics with falsetto. And THEN belts out more difficult notes between songs! You really need to read more history in the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 I know I'm kinda contradicting meself here but before Muse there wasn't really anybody like them. They did sound a bit like Radiohead - for Showbiz anyway. Muse did have more of a grandiose to their music but it still shared noticable qualities with early Radiohead work (Pablo Honey, The Bends, OK Computer). *is actually completely irrelevant* Must stay on topic...uh...Resistance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paranoiawilldestroy Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Fair nuff... But how can you say a falsetto is wimping out? I can't sing a falsetto. The dude who started the thread in his wisdom said... go speculate. Thus, my specualtion. Its just the way he sings live, whilst playing crazy guitar or piano which is no mean feat. A studio recording would quite likely see Bellamy singing, playing guitar and piano on the same track; but not at the same time. Try rubbing your head and your belly whilst standing on one foot and singing. See how well you do. Now what you need is a guitar with custom slaps, intricately picking out melodies between keys whilst controlling the sound that your electric makes with the slaps, whilst simultaneously jamming with two equally adept musicians. I know he's a professional musician and has had lots of practice but I reckon what Bellamy does onstage doesn't really need much more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdeboer01 Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Fair nuff... But how can you say a falsetto is wimping out? I can't sing a falsetto. Because singing a borderline "high note" in chest IS harder than doing it in falsetto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zomuse Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 and when you talk about how he hits notes in between different songs he does not sing during a given song dont take that out of context. the difficulty of a note depends on the context its used in. How you have to sing it(e.g. hit a note spot on without sliding to it from below is harder than with sliding) I think this is a very valid point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 The dude who started the thread in his wisdom said... go speculate. Thus, my specualtion. Its just the way he sings live, whilst playing crazy guitar or piano which is no mean feat. A studio recording would quite likely see Bellamy singing, playing guitar and piano on the same track; but not at the same time. Try rubbing your head and your belly whilst standing on one foot and singing. See how well you do. . Most Muse songs are fairly easy to play on guitar - I can tell you that. Also, Matt's been playing for...what, 20 years now? He probably focuses on the guitar very little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaking Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Freddie had nodules and was sick for a long time. Freddie's vocal nodules certainty played a factor but they hit him (really) hard in the early 80's. There are some bootlegs of shows in the 70's where his voice sounds Horrid. I have never heard Matt sing that badly. Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paranoiawilldestroy Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Okies... Fair points one and all. I'm a shit guitarist and my vocal range is limited to baritone. Continuing purely on this topic: A recent survey found no matter how hard you pull the handle, a really big turd will never flush... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Okies... Fair points one and all. I'm a shit guitarist and my vocal range is limited to baritone. Continuing purely on this topic: A recent survey found no matter how hard you pull the handle, a really big turd will never flush... Are you high constantly or is it just normal for you to talk wank all the time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 I think this is a very valid point. No it isn't. What he says is true about singing in general, but it has nothing to do with the notes we're discussing since the B4s aren't sliding notes. Freddie's vocal nodules certainty played a factor but they hit him (really) hard in the early 80's. There are some bootlegs of shows in the 70's where his voice sounds Horrid. I have never heard Matt sing that badly. Just saying. Well it's kinda irrelevant to whether he's lazy or not, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lauren. Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Yeah, a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingcools Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 No it isn't. What he says is true about singing in general, but it has nothing to do with the notes we're discussing since the B4s aren't sliding notes. are you ignoring the "e.g."? It was an example. Just try to sing some songs and compare the same notes in different contexts. You will realize it can be totally different difficulty wise. Just compare for example queen's bohemian rhapsody studio with its live version(the beginning): the "now i got to throw it all away" part he NEVER sang in falsetto/head voice live, which he did on the studio recording. Thats just one of many examples. Like Dont stop me now, im hearing a recording from 1979 right now and he doesnt sing a high chest voice part he did just one year ago on the studio version. He never did that in any of the recordings i listened to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 are you ignoring the "e.g."? It was an example. Just try to sing some songs and compare the same notes in different contexts. You will realize it can be totally different difficulty wise. Just compare for example queen's bohemian rhapsody studio with its live version(the beginning): the "now i got to throw it all away" part he NEVER sang in falsetto/head voice live, which he did on the studio recording. Thats just one of many examples. Like Dont stop me now, im hearing a recording from 1979 right now and he doesnt sing a high chest voice part he did just one year ago on the studio version. He never did that in any of the recordings i listened to. That could quite easily be down to stylistic choice though. Also, those notes were probably hard for Freddie - we have discussed that Matt doesn't sing high notes during songs (again, the Resistance example can be used) but then blasts out much harder notes when the song is finished. Basically - Freddie couldn't do it or preferred it that way, Matt's either lazy, scared or stupid. Oh, and it's "Now I've gone and thrown it all away" by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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