Mechagodzilla Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 It's because the band had this crazy idea that meant playing a piano would involve wheeling it out on stage so they decided to play New Born on top of a pillar which lowered down during the New Born intro so Matt would be on the ground once the riff kicks in. Nowhere near as impressive as the build up of feedback as Matt switches between piano and guitar +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superimposition Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Anyway, maybe we can try? NB intro is a legend. I think we have to protest. If we don't, soon, Morgan will play the Plug in Baby intro. Oh... That'd be a new low. We could, but we started about five petitions and none have changed anything, so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozza Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Oh... That'd be a new low. We could, but we started about five petitions and none have changed anything, so... Beermats work. I wrote on a Beermat: 'Dear Mr Bellamy. You recently wrote a really good song called MK Ultra but you never play it live. Instead you play Guiding Light, which is a bit rubbish. I am concerned' This got thrown on stage at the O2 on the 13th November. On the 14th November, Muse played a gig in Antwerp, where they played MK Ultra and dropped Guiding Light Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuseMegz Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 It's because the band had this crazy idea that meant playing a piano would involve wheeling it out on stage so they decided to play New Born on top of a pillar which lowered down during the New Born intro so Matt would be on the ground once the riff kicks in. Nowhere near as impressive as the build up of feedback as Matt switches between piano and guitar Awww.... im gonna miss the whole build up.... Why dont they just change the setlist .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozza Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Awww.... im gonna miss the whole build up.... Why dont they just change the setlist .... Lets not get started on that issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuseMegz Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Lets not get started on that issue I think there's already a thread for it . Oh and the beermat thing , sounds like an awesome idea !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enemy Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 New Born leading in from The Resistance, and being the 3rd song in, they need to keep the momentum up but also the 'stature' of the show early in. So Morgan playing the intro, so fucking what? They can't fit a piano up there. LOGIC. Muse are in their thirties now, they're older and more laid back. We will NEVER get 'crazy' Matt back, and I don't want him back. If they tried to be like that now, it would be untrue to us and untrue to themselves. People do seem to miss the fact they've brought back Cave, and have MK Ultra in the set now. This is easily overseen. Does anyone actually like Muse anymore on this board? Because I'm really thinking otherwise, the past six months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superimposition Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Beermats work. I wrote on a Beermat: 'Dear Mr Bellamy. You recently wrote a really good song called MK Ultra but you never play it live. Instead you play Guiding Light, which is a bit rubbish. I am concerned' This got thrown on stage at the O2 on the 13th November. On the 14th November, Muse played a gig in Antwerp, where they played MK Ultra and dropped Guiding Light I like Guiding Light, but MK U worked awesome live. YOU ARE MY M-F**KING HERO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOTPRules Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 DES? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jyrgen Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 New Born leading in from The Resistance, and being the 3rd song in, they need to keep the momentum up but also the 'stature' of the show early in. So Morgan playing the intro, so fucking what? They can't fit a piano up there. LOGIC. Muse are in their thirties now, they're older and more laid back. We will NEVER get 'crazy' Matt back, and I don't want him back. If they tried to be like that now, it would be untrue to us and untrue to themselves. People do seem to miss the fact they've brought back Cave, and have MK Ultra in the set now. This is easily overseen. Does anyone actually like Muse anymore on this board? Because I'm really thinking otherwise, the past six months. Quoted for truth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyndris Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Beermats work. I wrote on a Beermat: 'Dear Mr Bellamy. You recently wrote a really good song called MK Ultra but you never play it live. Instead you play Guiding Light, which is a bit rubbish. I am concerned' This got thrown on stage at the O2 on the 13th November. On the 14th November, Muse played a gig in Antwerp, where they played MK Ultra and dropped Guiding Light The 14th they actually played in Rotterdam... But yes they played MK Ultra!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozza Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 New Born leading in from The Resistance, and being the 3rd song in, they need to keep the momentum up but also the 'stature' of the show early in. So Morgan playing the intro, so fucking what? They can't fit a piano up there. LOGIC. Muse are in their thirties now, they're older and more laid back. We will NEVER get 'crazy' Matt back, and I don't want him back. If they tried to be like that now, it would be untrue to us and untrue to themselves. People do seem to miss the fact they've brought back Cave, and have MK Ultra in the set now. This is easily overseen. Does anyone actually like Muse anymore on this board? Because I'm really thinking otherwise, the past six months. Given that they knew they couldn't fit a piano up there: they didn't have to play New Born there though? The pillars could have come down at the end of Resistance and then they played New Born, or they could have played Map of the Problematique? Or the set they did in Teignmouth, where New Born was played after Hysteria. People are feeling detactched towards Muse because it is just different things that take away from the aura of the gigs. For a lot of people that transition from piano to guitar is something Matt had done every time the song was performed and now it has gone. As for Cave and MK Ultra........Cave was a nice suprise and I do appluad them for bringing it back. I will not however say I am ecstatic that they brought MK Ultra into the set half-way through a tour considering it is on the album they are meant to be promoting. The fact it was the best song they played that night just baffles me further why it took so long for them to play it. But no, it seems if anyone even slightly criticises Muse's live performances should just shut up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svenBliss Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Massive flashy shows just don't suit Muse at all... This is so wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkle19 Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 New Born leading in from The Resistance, and being the 3rd song in, they need to keep the momentum up but also the 'stature' of the show early in. So Morgan playing the intro, so fucking what? They can't fit a piano up there. LOGIC. Muse are in their thirties now, they're older and more laid back. We will NEVER get 'crazy' Matt back, and I don't want him back. If they tried to be like that now, it would be untrue to us and untrue to themselves. People do seem to miss the fact they've brought back Cave, and have MK Ultra in the set now. This is easily overseen. Does anyone actually like Muse anymore on this board? Because I'm really thinking otherwise, the past six months. Maybe to you it's not important, but to many of us it's bloody iconic. To take that away, leaves the song lacking something, in my opinion. As for people not liking Muse; honestly, it's constructive criticisms; they are not perfect, and this tour/set list/album have been a bit shit, therefore it's understandable that people will voice their concerns. People only want the best from them, and at the minute they aren't demonstrating the epicness, we've all seen before. As a couple of others have said on this thread, it's too fucking rehearsed, and structured; someone used 'clinical' the other, which I think sums it up pretty well. The O2 show was great, don't get me wrong, but it didn't blow me away. Idk, it's all got a bit wrong with them lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johanna Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 It's a bit unfair to call this album shit 'though because it's a matter of opinion and to many people it has been brilliant work from Muse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkle19 Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Of course, that's just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOTPRules Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Not Glorious...DES which is far superior What song is DES? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkle19 Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 What song is DES? Alternative title for Glorious. From Muse wiki- When played live, this song was referred to as DES due to a name printed on a set list. DES is the name of the keyboard technician - During the performance of Fillip for Bizarre 1999, there is a problem with the sound (a video of this can be downloaded here) and at the time, Matt made a beckoning gesture aimed backstage and he is heard saying "Des! Des!". It could also be a reference to DES, an American government cipher which would fit with the apparent cryptographic theme of the album. DES became a backronym for "Dead End Street" when some fans thought it was the title for the new song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOTPRules Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuutar Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Pretty much same who's playing it. Matt's played it hundreds of times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrinking Universe Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Beermats work. I wrote on a Beermat: 'Dear Mr Bellamy. You recently wrote a really good song called MK Ultra but you never play it live. Instead you play Guiding Light, which is a bit rubbish. I am concerned' This got thrown on stage at the O2 on the 13th November. On the 14th November, Muse played a gig in Antwerp, where they played MK Ultra and dropped Guiding Light That was Rotterdam! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miaki Posted December 22, 2009 Author Share Posted December 22, 2009 New Born leading in from The Resistance, and being the 3rd song in, they need to keep the momentum up but also the 'stature' of the show early in. So Morgan playing the intro, so fucking what? They can't fit a piano up there. LOGIC. I had the same opinion during the Resistance tour, but at Oakland, Morgan played the intro whereas they perfomed in a normal scene, without pillars and fantasy. Muse are in their thirties now, they're older and more laid back. We will NEVER get 'crazy' Matt back, and I don't want him back. If they tried to be like that now, it would be untrue to us and untrue to themselves. People do seem to miss the fact they've brought back Cave, and have MK Ultra in the set now. This is easily overseen. You're true. Playing New Born intro is soooooo difficult, especially when you're 30. It's even more difficult than Cave jazz version. I admit. Does anyone actually like Muse anymore on this board? Because I'm really thinking otherwise, the past six months. Of course. If not, why am I wasting my time posting messages here? Why do I want create a petition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuutar Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 And by the way, there' s already thread for general setlist talk:rolleyes:. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally101 Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Maybe to you it's not important, but to many of us it's bloody iconic. To take that away, leaves the song lacking something, in my opinion. As for people not liking Muse; honestly, it's constructive criticisms; they are not perfect, and this tour/set list/album have been a bit shit, therefore it's understandable that people will voice their concerns. People only want the best from them, and at the minute they aren't demonstrating the epicness, we've all seen before. As a couple of others have said on this thread, it's too fucking rehearsed, and structured; someone used 'clinical' the other, which I think sums it up pretty well. The O2 show was great, don't get me wrong, but it didn't blow me away. Idk, it's all got a bit wrong with them lately. I agree, while seeing them at the O2 was great, not everything clicked. I think they've lost some of that energy which they had say... 5 years ago. TR also seemed like this, their previous albums are great because there is energy running through them and that's one of the things that attract people towards the band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelasyndrome Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 I"m sure they're lookin' for the best live sound but... it is awesome when matt plays it. makes it ten times more epic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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