Jobby Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 So, if you combine both lists we’ve seen for these by request gigs so far, here’s the options we’ve had: Aftermath* Agitated* Animals* Apocalypse Please* Assassin Blackout* Bliss Butterflies & Hurricanes Cave Citizen Erased City Of Delusion Darkshines* Dead Inside Dead Star Defector* Dig Down Do We Need This* Easily Endlessly* Eternally Missed Exogenesis: Symphony Part 1 (Overture)* Exo-Politics* Falling Away With You* Falling Down* Feeling Good Follow Me* Forced In* Fury Futurism The Globalist* Glorious The Groove Guiding Light* The Handler Hyper Music Hysteria Invincible Isolated System* Liquid State* Knights Of Cydonia Madness Map Of Your Head Map Of The Problematique Megalomania* Mercy* Micro Cuts Muscle Museum Nature_1* Neutron Star Collision* New Born New Kind Of Kick* Panic Station Plug In Baby Psycho Reapers Resistance Revolt* Ruled By Secrecy* Save Me* Screenager* Showbiz Sign O’ The Times* Sing For Absolution The Small Print* Soldier’s Poem* Space Dementia Starlight Stockholm Syndrome Sunburn Supermassive Black Hole Supremacy Survival* Take A Bow* Thoughts Of A Dying Atheist Time Is Running Out Undisclosed Desires Unintended United States Of Eurasia* Unnatural Selection* Uno Unsustainable* Uprising Yes Please* * = was included for SBE then dropped Bold = has already been played/voted in Basically, what do you reckon should: a) Come back that disappeared after SBE b) Come in that hasn’t been included yet My shouts would be: a) Agitated, Apocalypse Please, Blackout, Defector, Do We Need This, Endlessly, Exo-Politics, Falling Away With You, Falling Down, Forced In, Darkshines, Megalomania, Nature_1, Ruled By Secrecy, Screenager, The Small Print, Soldier’s Poem, Take A Bow, Unnatural Selection, Yes Please b) Ashamed, Can’t Take My Eyes Off You, Coma, Con-Science, Crying Shame, Escape, Execution Commentary, Fillip, The Gallery, Hate This & I’ll Love You, Hoodoo, Host, I Belong To You, In Your World, Minimum, MK Ultra, Redemption, Shine (Acoustic), Shrinking Universe, Sober Hoodoo’s an absolute must, shocked that’s not been on so far. Also reckon Blackout would come back in it’s proper, non-abysmal form at a small venue. RBS was a criminal drop. If they’re gonna repeat the live voting thing as well, I’d like to see an ‘instrumental song’ slot where the D&B jam would usually go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen_Eraser Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Can we just spam the hell out of Shrinking Universe hastags until they play it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunge Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 More of them. Bigger ones. Take the concept and do it at somewhere like Brixton Academy. Also, endure the non-rarities are always varied - i.e. I didn’t expect Psycho last night but it was welcome over, say, Starlight or TIRO. I also liked the cabaret element to last night’s show. Dom with the envelopes, Matt’s silly explanations, the little screw-ups. It just felt more live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted February 25, 2018 Author Share Posted February 25, 2018 (edited) I did like the envelopes v x-factor or some shit Not sure about doing bigger shows tbh...obvs it’d be great for more fans to get to go to any given show but I love how intimate these places are so far. Somewhere like Brixton might be just a bit too big and detract from the vibe a bit imo. If you just increased the number of shows they do and the variation in places they take it, I think that’d help make it available to more people without sacrificing that ‘cramped in room of hardcores’ energy. Agree w/ keeping any staples varied tho. Would like to give the length a shout as well - 16 at SBE and 18 at La Cigale as opposed to the 15 on the Psycho Tour, no more ‘smaller venue = smaller set logic’ Edited February 25, 2018 by Jobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectrum IV Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 As fun as the Facebook thing was, if I had paid for a “by request” ticket I wouldn’t want randoms on the internet deciding my set list. I’m hoping the voting results will result in better set lists for all gigs. It’s really interesting how the top 10 didn’t include any staples, apart from PIB I guess. The results were mostly early singles that the band seems to think are deep cuts. These by request shows should really be a question of “Which B-sides do you want to hear for the first time?” rather than “Which classic, well-known songs do you want a much higher chance of seeing live?” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted February 26, 2018 Author Share Posted February 26, 2018 I don’t think it matters whether the results/options are singles, album tracks or b-sides tbh, as long as they’re good and something you don’t hear every day. Am slightly worried about them starting to skip stuff that makes the top 10 though, sets a potentially dodgy precedent without sounding overly dramatic. Still haunted by those summer 2010 polls. If you aren’t gonna be willing to play something, just don’t make it available for voting. Dead Star’s not an awful miss ‘cos it does pop up occasionally anyway but anyone there that wasn’t at SBE must’ve been pretty bummed about S4A. Also how the fuck did I miss HCM from my ‘songs that should be added’? it is an i m p e r a t i v e addition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewislimes Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 By Request suggestion, a tour which makes seeing Muse accessible to fans, like myself who cant afford to travel, across the UK including Wales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikite Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 I don’t think it matters whether the results/options are singles, album tracks or b-sides tbh, as long as they’re good and something you don’t hear every day. Am slightly worried about them starting to skip stuff that makes the top 10 though, sets a potentially dodgy precedent without sounding overly dramatic. Still haunted by those summer 2010 polls. If you aren’t gonna be willing to play something, just don’t make it available for voting. Dead Star’s not an awful miss ‘cos it does pop up occasionally anyway but anyone there that wasn’t at SBE must’ve been pretty bummed about S4A. Also how the fuck did I miss HCM from my ‘songs that should be added’? it is an i m p e r a t i v e addition. For Paris, we had 5 votes, and, if I'm not mistaken, they only mentionned a top 5 as well. So they would actually have gone beyond what they "had" to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 Did they mention a top5? I never saw that anywhere but then I didn’t pay much attention. I mostly saw people talk about Muse playing the top 5 because you could vote for 5 songs, which doesn’t necessarily say anything about the number of songs they were looking at from the results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted March 2, 2018 Author Share Posted March 2, 2018 Yeah, they didn’t mention a number for SBE or La Cigale, just that ‘votes would curate the set’. Considering Matt posted the top 10 for each on Twitter though, playing all 10 + Futurism at SBE, I took that to mean that’s what they sectioned off to go in the set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustyy Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 I thought it said 5 in the email Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
czuczu Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 It did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 (edited) What did the email say exactly? Edited March 3, 2018 by Tjet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sade Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 By Request suggestion, a tour which makes seeing Muse accessible to fans, like myself who cant afford to travel, across the UK including Wales. This would be cool but in the end, doesn't make much sense from an economic point of view. Why organise a tour playing for small audiences when you can play for arenas or even stadiums? What did thdo email say exactly? "Thank you for buying a ticket to Muse's show at La Cigale on 24 February. Billed as a ‘By Request’ show, each ticket holder can choose up to five of their favorite Muse tracks and all votes submitted will be collated and used to curate the set on the night. If you have purchased one ticket, you have one unique code to use when voting, but please note that each code is unique and works only once. If you have purchased two tickets, and therefore have two unique codes to use when voting, you can use both these codes yourself or you can pass one on to your guest for the evening – that choice is yours !" Honestly, I took this to mean that only the top 5 would be played but technicically it didn't say that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Yeah I don't even think it implies that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blubb0r Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 By Request suggestion, a tour which makes seeing Muse accessible to fans, like myself who cant afford to travel, across the UK including Wales. They did somehow a rarities club tour - it was called "Psycho UK Tour" and it was just 3 years ago. Bringing the "By Request" shows/rarities to Europe (and maybe the US) is a nice thing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sade Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Yeah I don't even think it implies that. They did somehow a rarities club tour - it was called "Psycho UK Tour" and it was just 3 years ago. Bringing the "By Request" shows/rarities to Europe (and maybe the US) is a nice thing... I think my thinking is tainted by the reasons why I kind of gave up on Muse years ago. Promise people the chance to vote some of the setlist in 2010 ->end up with one requested song->immediately now assume you will get fucked with just 5 requested songs when SB got 10, just by seeing the number 5 Never play "deep cuts", as I guess they are called now, and for years emphasize stage production over setlists and the actual music-> it never even occurred to me Muse have actually done a small-scale tour in the previous years Great to see that the band has been more "superfan"-friendly in the last few years. I assume this is because they've understood the value of holding onto the core fanbase now that the highest commercial heydays seem to be over, at least for the moment. Or maybe I'm wrong again, because I don't seem to know anything these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blubb0r Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 but tbh, they played rarities at the festivals and played the "regular" stuff at their own shows... although you should assume, that there should be more "superfans" at their own shows and more people liking the "regular" stuff at festivals #muselogic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewislimes Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 They did somehow a rarities club tour - it was called "Psycho UK Tour" and it was just 3 years ago. Bringing the "By Request" shows/rarities to Europe (and maybe the US) is a nice thing... and the Psycho tour had one date in Wales which was the first since 2006 i believe. Its not like its a massive ask for them to at least attempt to cater to the fans from Wales. There are plenty of small and big venues they could take their shows to, and this goes for the majority of big artists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted March 3, 2018 Author Share Posted March 3, 2018 (edited) I think it’s more important to take it to places further away that maybe don’t see special songs or small gigs often first. Wales specifically doesn’t get many gigs but the UK as a whole is a hotspot for them. There’s a lotta other places way bigger than here that barely get touched with regular gigs, let alone rarity stuff. Like I said before as well, they won’t do it in tour form without massively reducing the amount of rarities/requests they play each night (back to the 3-5 of the Psycho Tour), which isn’t worth it imo. I’d rather them be sparse but really fucking special than clustered into a diluted mini-tour. I just hope they squeeze a few more in before LP8 comes out, ‘cos I’ll be surprised if they continue it once this big ‘mindblowing tech demo’ world tour kicks off. Edited March 3, 2018 by Jobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted March 5, 2018 Author Share Posted March 5, 2018 I just hope they squeeze a few more in before LP8 comes out, ‘cos I’ll be surprised if they continue it once this big ‘mindblowing tech demo’ world tour kicks off. ^ Update on that from Matt - plan is for 1 more in Europe and hopefully 1 in the US over the next year (so presumably before LP8) Gonna guess Italy and LA, Alcatraz (Milan) and the Wiltern or Mayan. Would love to go to a gig in the US but never really seriously considered it 'cos of the cost...this could push me though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted March 5, 2018 Author Share Posted March 5, 2018 Don't. ...do I ask? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Was going to make another typical comment about the audiences, but thinking more one show for the whole country (you could even say NA) will make every ticket very precious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted March 5, 2018 Author Share Posted March 5, 2018 Was going to make another typical comment about the audiences, but thinking more one show for the whole country (you could even say NA) will make every ticket very precious. True, there’s always gonna be that small contingent of fans that travel abroad though. Then again, I could be ok with skipping it. Thinking about how starved the US has been for rarities, the votes might actually end up being pretty conventional. Probs wouldn’t even get tix so I guess it’s all irrelevant anyway eyyyyy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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