TheSmallPrint02 Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 At first I thought the song was a bit too "different" for me, but over time I've really warmed to it and I think it's a brilliant song! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EveryToilet Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 I've gone from genuinely enjoying TC to giving or taking it. For what it's worth, a lot of my non-Muse fan friends have texted me to tell me how much they like the new Muse single. I know "mass appeal" is a bad word around these parts but maybe it's a good gateway song?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 (edited) The live performance has swung me on it tbh, hope future ones keep up that energy. Mass appeal ain’t a dirty phrase I don’t think, who cares how accessible a song is to casual listeners? Only starts to become a bad thing when you actively sacrifice your own artistic integrity to achieve that (which isn’t what Muse have done/are doing imo). Edited April 16, 2018 by Jobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 I've gone from genuinely enjoying TC to giving or taking it. For what it's worth, a lot of my non-Muse fan friends have texted me to tell me how much they like the new Muse single. I know "mass appeal" is a bad word around these parts but maybe it's a good gateway song?? Mass appeal isn't a bad thing on its own, though. I just don't see the point getting excited about Muse gaining more mainstream popularity if that means they keep making songs I don't like. If they're enjoying themselves, more power to them, but what kind of "gateway" is it, really? It's not like the mainstream is going to get into TC and then suddenly everyone's into CE, or Fury or something. I don't think it's going to lead to the band's other material clicking with people. Heck, we saw that with Madness; they struck gold with that song and then there wasn't anything else on T2L that appealed to those same fans, and the attention died off. And it sounds like they're doing something similar this time around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Has TC even caught on? Haven’t heard it on the radio once over here but I don’t listen much tbf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 I hear it a couple times a day on the radio at work, but I don't know how widespread even that is. The station's pretty much wall to wall Imagine Dragons with some other similar stuff thrown in. I don't think it's really caught on huge, but it's out there more than a lot of their stuff was other than Madness. It doesn't really seem to compete well with the other songs in the same genre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bohemian-Cygnus-Running-Out Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 I remember hearing Dig Down on the radio a couple times, but I don't think those stations would play TC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Little Animal Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 It's the best ever charting Muse song in France, apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bohemian-Cygnus-Running-Out Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 It's the best ever charting Muse song in France, apparently. how high has it gotten? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Little Animal Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 how high has it gotten? 7, according to the wikipedias. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EveryToilet Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Mass appeal isn't a bad thing on its own, though. I just don't see the point getting excited about Muse gaining more mainstream popularity if that means they keep making songs I don't like. If they're enjoying themselves, more power to them, but what kind of "gateway" is it, really? It's not like the mainstream is going to get into TC and then suddenly everyone's into CE, or Fury or something. I don't think it's going to lead to the band's other material clicking with people. I don't disagree with you but that was basically my experience with the band. Granted, BH&R is generally looked on favorably but Starlight isn't really the most representative of classic Muse. Nevertheless, that was the song that got my attention more so than other songs of theirs that I had heard. Here we are a decade later and OoS is my favorite album. I may be the exception but sometimes I think people just need the right song to convince them to give a band a real shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunge Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 From Mexico. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgM73RxMKMo Never has a three-minute song sounded so long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frozenbanana Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 From Mexico. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgM73RxMKMo Never has a three-minute song sounded so long. Am a bit worried that it's going to be a thing from now on that every time a new single comes out, it becomes the set opener. Classic to go 'yeah, Fury would have worked dreadfully as an opening song, so it never opened gigs, but sure let's have "Fury 2.0" as an opener now that it's been released". Same kinda thing with Dig Down (Madness never opened gigs for a reason...) Do the guys actually remember anything that ever happened from before 2009 or is it all just a big blur to them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunge Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 It was around TR time they just completely forgot how to write coherent setlists. Also, come back piano section . Rather than the 'pop' section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Am a bit worried that it's going to be a thing from now on that every time a new single comes out, it becomes the set opener. Classic to go 'yeah, Fury would have worked dreadfully as an opening song, so it never opened gigs, but sure let's have "Fury 2.0" as an opener now that it's been released". Same kinda thing with Dig Down (Madness never opened gigs for a reason...) It’s always been the thing that they open with something current tbf. Atm that just happens to be each of these singles but I imagine they’ll shift to whatever’s more fitting once the full record’s out. I think they both work fine as opener’s tbh, TC miles better than DD but still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forevermusic Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Paris performance was better IMO. But then maybe its just a recording device quality thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartianSpaghettiRider Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 (edited) I think they both work fine as opener’s tbh, TC miles better than DD but still. If it's true that the new album is going to have a heavier track than TC, I can see it being the new opener, with TC itself becoming the second track and DD being moved in the first "chill out zone" of the gig. Having a more "atmospheric" song with a crescendo in its final part would be ideal, though. Edited April 23, 2018 by MartianSpaghettiRider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownAndOut Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 I like it and much prefer it to Dig Down. Hope the new album comes out in 2018 rather than 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 What we need is a new fucking closer (that muse don’t wimp out on after a bit) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartianSpaghettiRider Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 What we need is a new fucking closer (that muse don’t wimp out on after a bit) Just rotate KOC with Stockholm and Survival, and we're good. Because I doubt we're going to get an apt closer with this album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 I doubt Survival is gonna make a return unless fans request it heavily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartianSpaghettiRider Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 I doubt Survival is gonna make a return unless fans request it heavily. And that's a real pity. It was so much fun and bonkers when Matt went ballistic on the guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Just rotate KOC with Stockholm and Survival, and we're good. Because I doubt we're going to get an apt closer with this album. People have been saying that for nigh 10 years tho and it ain’t happened. Other than Starlight’s brief stint and 1 or 2 uses of SS, the only time we’ve had a respite from Knights in the last 10 years is when there’s been a new song to take over (Survival + Reapers) but they never fully committed to either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Honestly the reason they didn't commit was because Knights is still the superior closer. It might be overdone at this point, but it still closes a show way more effectively than Reapers and Survival...based on what I've seen on youtube. Sorry, haven't seen a Muse show since 2009. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forevermusic Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Survival as a closer with Knights midset worked really well at Shepherd's Bush in 2013. But then one can imagine it being a track that really takes it out of you vocally if you're doing every night though, especially if its at the end. Maybe that musical its appearing in might revive its popularity. I'd rather have it as a reminder of T2L than Madness, mind. A new closer would be a good thing though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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