ADAM Posted September 4, 2007 Author Share Posted September 4, 2007 Back from holiday now! Hoorah! XD What do you all think are the hardest Muse songs to drum to? I am going to record a few demos at home this weekend that I can bring back up to college to show my skill level. Assassin and Knights are the hardest. Stockholm's relatively easy just lots of tom hitting makes it sound impressive and 'hard'. In terms of skill level, KOC for the doubles on the single kick and assassin for THAT fill! There are others that are quite tricky to master, but they're the main ones. This is my first post here and I joined because I am a huge Muse fan and an even bigger Dom fan. Anyways, i really love his set-up and I have 2 crashes a ride hi hats and am currently using a 14" aax crash as a splash... Anyways, I am going to cut down the aax to an 11" or 12". I was wondering what splash I should get to get a sound like his. Also, what do you guys think of the oriental classic china? I know he uses the china trash but I can't stand it The oriental china is great! It's REALLY explosive and fits in really well with the 18" and 19" A Customs. Well, you have the following to beat: (My Stockholm Syndrome Video) (My Assassin Video) (My Assassin GOB Video) Haha....he can try! (DISCLAIMER - only joking - i do not wish to bring on 'drumming rivalry') I already had a vid of SS but it's gone since my old youtube account was deleted. I had a whole mess of muse guitar covers too. WOAH...WHY! What did you have uploaded that was 'bad'? I hope mine doesnt get deleted! haha That would be catastrophic! lol i agree really nice use of the active synths. this is not that bad Athankingyaw Stockholm Video Twas good - but quite a few minor mistakes throughout Remember that during the tom verses, the first and third snare hits are flams And it may also be beneficial to get some form of in-ear monitors or a big-ass PA system! That way you'll be able to hear the music you're playing along to better, and not slip out of time. But yeah overall pretty good. I've gotta say though--you've got an awkward technique. When you hit the snare, you don't let the stick rebound and you rest the stick on the head. I'm not sure what that does to the sound but it's not that big of a deal, I think. That can also prove to be quite bad for your wrists Try to use your fingers a bit more Oh yeah, on a different subject, my new favorite song to play is Ruled By Secrecy. I played through it for the first few times today and I friggin' love it! Haha. The ghost notes and the triplets (or whatever they are) on the ride are fun. RBS is brilliant. And the ghost notes are on the snare not the ride </picky> but yeah I know what you mean the ghost notes are cool. And a really explosive piano solo! Corrrr Im probs gonna do that and Newborn next (will try and record them before I go back to uni next week) *fingers crossed* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_man361 Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 welcome back, adam. matt and i are going to leeds on saturday... come jam before then plxxx... did you have a nice holiday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lpdrummer Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 Nice job! Besides the syncing going all crazy, I caught a few mistakes, but nothing too bad. I've gotta say though--you've got an awkward technique. When you hit the snare, you don't let the stick rebound and you rest the stick on the head. I'm not sure what that does to the sound but it's not that big of a deal, I think. Nice set btw. Didn't you say you had a Tama Superstar? Oh yeah, on a different subject, my new favorite song to play is Ruled By Secrecy. I played through it for the first few times today and I friggin' love it! Haha. The ghost notes and the triplets (or whatever they are) on the ride are fun. Hahaha, yea, I only did one take so I'll have to do a better one when I go home again. I'm not digging the stick into the snare though - although it certainly does look like it from the video! I hit the snare and it rebounds, but I just let it fall back to rest on the snare so I don't have to hold it And yes, I have a Tama Superstar. Assassin and Knights are the hardest. Stockholm's relatively easy just lots of tom hitting makes it sound impressive and 'hard'. In terms of skill level, KOC for the doubles on the single kick and assassin for THAT fill! There are others that are quite tricky to master, but they're the main ones. Twas good - but quite a few minor mistakes throughout Remember that during the tom verses, the first and third snare hits are flams And it may also be beneficial to get some form of in-ear monitors or a big-ass PA system! That way you'll be able to hear the music you're playing along to better, and not slip out of time. But yeah overall pretty good. That can also prove to be quite bad for your wrists Try to use your fingers a bit more Yea, thats what I figured - I did KOC, but something seems to be wrong with Windows movie maker - whenever I try to record a song more than about 5 minutes, parts of it slow down, and then speed up. The first 2 1/2 minutes of Koc were good, but then it speeds up and messes the whole sync up! Thats what happened to SS as well, but to a little lesser degree... Flams...gotta remember that! I just learned it by ear when I heard it on the radio a few years ago and old habits die hard I guess! I have Shure SCL3's, but they are hard to see thanks to the youtube quality I'll have to find a song with some quick RRLL's or something, show a close up of my sticking. It does look atrocious from that video though! EDIT: Check out this drum duel I did a while back, see if you recognize the drumming in the beginning! kRGxg6vFfeY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADAM Posted September 4, 2007 Author Share Posted September 4, 2007 Yea, thats what I figured - I did KOC, but something seems to be wrong with Windows movie maker - whenever I try to record a song more than about 5 minutes, parts of it slow down, and then speed up. The first 2 1/2 minutes of Koc were good, but then it speeds up and messes the whole sync up! Thats what happened to SS as well, but to a little lesser degree... Aaahh! Good ole WMM Nah - you want adobe premier! EDIT: Check out this drum duel I did a while back, see if you recognize the drumming in the beginning! kRGxg6vFfeY Which one is you? Im assuming the one on the left? I recognise Citizen and Hysteria so far... Twas pretty cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lpdrummer Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 Aaahh! Good ole WMM Nah - you want adobe premier! Which one is you? Im assuming the one on the left? I recognise Citizen and Hysteria so far... Twas pretty cool! Alright, I gotta go get a copy of that...WMM just isn't working well... I'm the one on the right with the black drumset. And yes, we started out with the opening beat from Hysteria hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADAM Posted September 4, 2007 Author Share Posted September 4, 2007 oh excellent! Was good! Tho your config is different! 2 up 2 down is it? Thats what I want - am on the look out for a cheap (under £60) 18" floor tom - dont care what make or colour as long as its in good condition! Who were you playing against? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominicHoward Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 18 inch floor tom?! wtf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alyssa_ Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 WOAH...WHY! What did you have uploaded that was 'bad'? I hope mine doesnt get deleted! haha That would be catastrophic! lol RBS is brilliant. And the ghost notes are on the snare not the ride </picky> but yeah I know what you mean the ghost notes are cool. And a really explosive piano solo! Corrrr Im probs gonna do that and Newborn next (will try and record them before I go back to uni next week) *fingers crossed* I had some House M.D. clips and a Coldplay vid up. It was stupid because the House vids that I put up were already available through IGN.com, legally. Nothing about the muse covers though. I did have about 20, though. And Ruled By Secrecy--I did mean the snare. I meant ghost notes on the snare, and the triplet stuff of sorts on the ride, or whatever it is. Anyway, looking forward to the vids. edit: New cover. Sucks. Haha. Apocalypse Please AODD07ryRIc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADAM Posted September 5, 2007 Author Share Posted September 5, 2007 18 inch floor tom?! wtf that would be huge wouldnt it Hmm Well my kit is Hi tom - 12" Mid tom - 13" Snare - 14" Floor - 16" So i was guessing next one up would be 17" but thats a gay size so 18"....but yeah thats massive! haha so.... hmm.... get a 14" tom and put it between my mid and floor tom?? Thus giving me: 12" 13" 14" 16" and 14" snare having 2 drums the same size?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nav Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 My set ups a 12 mid tom then 14 and 16 inch floor toms, makes for quite a nice setup, have got a 10inch top tom as well but don't use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nav Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 Whats the sticking for the verse in SS? Trying to figure it out on videos but it's to fast.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADAM Posted September 5, 2007 Author Share Posted September 5, 2007 http://www.musedrums.rocks.it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominicHoward Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 adam mate, it doesn't matter that you'd have two 14" drums. they'd sound nothing like each other as one's a snare like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lpdrummer Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 oh excellent! Was good! Tho your config is different! 2 up 2 down is it? Thats what I want - am on the look out for a cheap (under £60) 18" floor tom - dont care what make or colour as long as its in good condition! Who were you playing against? Yes, my set is 12,13,14,16, 22 with a 13" snare (at that concert I was using a 14" snare). 2 up 2 down is nice, but my 13" tom is just deep enough so that I have to tilt it too much for me to be able to play it. So now I have a one up two down setup (12", 14", 16") and I love it. I can move the ride in a little closer and it makes playing that much easier. And I would say go for a 14" tom. It doesn't matter if its the same size as a snare, they have completely different tonal qualities and ranges. 14" toms are easier to tune than a 18", you can still go deep with them, rolls down the toms sound even (2" difference each), and they're cheaper! Whats the sticking for the verse in SS? Trying to figure it out on videos but it's to fast.... Flam, RLRLR, Flam RLRL the first time, then Flam, RLRL from then on I think. Thats what it lookss like in the tab at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADAM Posted September 5, 2007 Author Share Posted September 5, 2007 adam mate, it doesn't matter that you'd have two 14" drums. they'd sound nothing like each other as one's a snare like. yeah of course! bit of a n00b moment there! 14" it shall be! Now i need to find a black one with both heads on it for under £50 inc delivery! And Stockholm, written, is: R floor L floor R floor B bass F snare flam R floor L snare R floor L hi R floor B bass F snare flam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alyssa_ Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 YouTube hates me. I got one strike against my account for copyright infringement after uploading that one clip of Matt when he was 12. Yet, the other 5 clips of the same thing uploaded by other people are still there. Gr. Anyway, I got my cymbal stand today, and it's the sturdiest piece of equipment I've got ATM. It was only $35. It doesn't wobble like all my other stands... -_- I would record Knights of Cydonia and such but I've got a whole mess of coursework. Bleh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADAM Posted September 6, 2007 Author Share Posted September 6, 2007 YouTube hates me. I got one strike against my account for copyright infringement after uploading that one clip of Matt when he was 12. Yet, the other 5 clips of the same thing uploaded by other people are still there. Gr. WHAT! Did they email you and tell you that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alyssa_ Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 WHAT! Did they email you and tell you that? Yup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arias Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 12? Whats the most fun song to play on the drums... The one that gives you a filling that you done something in your life the first time you get it right And whats easier: B&H or SS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_man361 Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 The one that gives you a feeling that you've done something in your life the first time you get it right assassin, cos you'll feel like that after youve eventually nailed the fill i guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADAM Posted September 6, 2007 Author Share Posted September 6, 2007 12? Whats the most fun song to play on the drums... Fun? Erm...Stockholm, Knights and Assassin but only assassin for the crazy bits - the rest is quite boring. Also space dementia and cave are good... And whats easier: B&H or SS? SS as thats played the same each time, yet in B+H theres slight improvised variations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alyssa_ Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 12? Whats the most fun song to play on the drums... The one that gives you a filling that you done something in your life the first time you get it right And whats easier: B&H or SS? uXnbT3n8wco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADAM Posted September 7, 2007 Author Share Posted September 7, 2007 oh! I get it now. It was just - the number 12....what?!?!? "A video when matt was 12?!?! :eek:".............. "12".............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alyssa_ Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 haha, yeah I was sort of confused at first. And Arias--you're filipino, yeah? I am too. Haha, yeah, we proudly killed Magellan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADAM Posted September 7, 2007 Author Share Posted September 7, 2007 oohhh i see the number 12 is a filipino thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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