Jaicen Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Yeah there's 2.5 versions, the original, the original with the factory update, then th EX, with extra algorithms & storage. Will look into the hexpanders re: filters when I get home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james90 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Mine is the EX. I still haven't read through the manual. First thing I did was try to get the muscle museum sound, but I failed miserably I was told by a reliable source these were the settings press effect (it should say p shift) then select p-shift, then the type to harmony 3rd up, key of A (F#m) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaicen Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I am Jelly, mine is the first version, quite an early one I believe. Reliable Source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james90 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I am Jelly, mine is the first version, quite an early one I believe. Reliable Source? Well, not really reliable as it didn't sound anything like I thought it would. But then I still don't know how to use the pedal in general Is the EX better? I was considering getting one of the newer roland pedalboards, but I have to research them a bit more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaicen Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 It's not really better in terms of capabilities, but it's marginally quieter, has more patch storage and has improved analogue input section. Think of it as 20% extra free. The VG99 is substantially more powerful than the VG8 and loads cheaper even before taking inflation into account. But he VG8 does things a bit different and is pretty cheap now. First thing you need to work out is what EXACTLY do you want to do with the thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james90 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 It's not really better in terms of capabilities, but it's marginally quieter, has more patch storage and has improved analogue input section. Think of it as 20% extra free. The VG99 is substantially more powerful than the VG8 and loads cheaper even before taking inflation into account. But he VG8 does things a bit different and is pretty cheap now. First thing you need to work out is what EXACTLY do you want to do with the thing? Hmm fair enough then. I bought the VG-8 because it was cheap (and more matthew), but I can tell that the effects have come a long way since this unit... especially the amp models, which don't really sound any better than the line 6 guitar port I had nearly ten years ago But yeah, I'd be mainly using the effects (probably the more uncommon ones) on one of these rather than the amp models and stuff like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaicen Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Yeah mine is mostly used for dicking about with the polyphonic pitch shifting, bypassing the amps completely as I run it into my custom valve amp. Some of the delay and modulation effects are really nice though, I almost considered switching to a stereo rig to make full use of them. Edit: All that said, my VG8 is currently languishing in the cupboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james90 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Yeah mine is mostly used for dicking about with the polyphonic pitch shifting, bypassing the amps completely as I run it into my custom valve amp. Some of the delay and modulation effects are really nice though, I almost considered switching to a stereo rig to make full use of them. Edit: All that said, my VG8 is currently languishing in the cupboard. Yeah, I'd be mainly using mine for that sort of thing. Don't need the amp models on the subject of a stereo rig... i need to figure out this sub octave effect. it's blended with a dry signal, but I have no idea how he had everything setup back then with that wall of amps 6ZEbRMB2qKE 2:03 (and the outro as well, but I think there's a mid boost from the EQ pedal as well) But I guess I'll be getting one of these. I thought there were a few others, but it looks like this is the only one http://www.rolandus.com/products/details/1148/477 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaicen Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 I would suggest that it's the VG8 he's using in that clip. Certainly the intro sounds like he is. I think Matt used his as a fancy FX unit, bypassing the amps etc into his Soldano etc.. With regards to Roland's current guitar synths, the GR55 is the only one available new, though there are a lot of GR20's cropping up at bargain prices, which does all the synth stuff pretty much as well, with a wider range of sounds, at the expense of amp/guitar modelling. I will upgrade to the GR55 at some point when they drop in price but right now the disparity is too much. If you have GR55 money, then buy this right now: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Roland-VG-99-VG99-VG-99-V-Guitar-V-Guitar-System-Module-/121188578191?pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item1c3766f38f That will do everything you need and it's relatively a bargain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james90 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 I would suggest that it's the VG8 he's using in that clip. Certainly the intro sounds like he is. I think Matt used his as a fancy FX unit, bypassing the amps etc into his Soldano etc.. With regards to Roland's current guitar synths, the GR55 is the only one available new, though there are a lot of GR20's cropping up at bargain prices, which does all the synth stuff pretty much as well, with a wider range of sounds, at the expense of amp/guitar modelling. I will upgrade to the GR55 at some point when they drop in price but right now the disparity is too much. If you have GR55 money, then buy this right now: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Roland-VG-99-VG99-VG-99-V-Guitar-V-Guitar-System-Module-/121188578191?pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item1c3766f38f That will do everything you need and it's relatively a bargain. Hmm the GR-55 is only $10 more. I'll have to look into it a bit as I'm not sure what the differences are (is that a MIDI strip? ) Here's a shot of his pedalboard from that gig I was wrong; the EQ wasn't there yet. There's just the VG-8 with expression pedal, homemade amp switcher, soldano footswitch There's also a little switch which looks like it's stuck to the top of the VG-8 One of these I think http://www.rolandus.com/products/details/57/482 Between the different outputs on the VG-8, and that homemade amp switcher, I have no idea how he was running things exactly. Pretty sure the fender 4x10 was the wet amp (considering how his setup changed in mid 2000 to have the marshall and fender only) But when it comes to this sort of thing with four (or more?!) amps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GJTNJzzxNg No idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muse59200 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Argh, you make me wanting a roland VG8...Now I'm tempted to mod my pacifica 120 with a gk kit. About the showbiz gear, In my opinion, it's not very complicated, there are few gigs with only 2 amps. The amp switcher is probably for the dry section, to choose between the soldano and the matchless. The little footswitch is probably for vocal effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james90 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 I thought the vocal footswitch was that red and black one. I'm pretty sure the one in the picture is the soldano decatone footswitch here's the red and black one. i'm sure some of you have seen it before... seems to have four buttons, but i'm not sure what for edit: I completely forgot... he ran his vocals through the POD, so it's for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaicen Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 The pedal on top of the VG8 is to switch between patch banks or turn the tuner on the VG8. It's plugged into the back of the VG8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james90 Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Hi Dom, did you see that jazzmaster/jaguar shaped body in that picture from the works yesterday? It isn't Jim's apparently, so... Also, I'm quite excited about this black/blue carbon with gold hardware. Haven't been this excited since Bs' guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Hi Dom, did you see that jazzmaster/jaguar shaped body in that picture from the works yesterday? It isn't Jim's apparently, so... Also, I'm quite excited about this black/blue carbon with gold hardware. Haven't been this excited since Bs' guitar. No I did not what is this!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nerd herd Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 This one? http://pic.twitter.com/NP0GOlzRJf Looks like they're doing big XY pads on customs now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james90 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 This one? http://pic.twitter.com/NP0GOlzRJf Looks like they're doing big XY pads on customs now No I did not what is this!? See the post above. I imagine Matt's taking ideas from guitars on here again! Also, if they are doing the full sized X-Y pads again, that makes a certain E guitar a bit less special.... I think I will have the black X-Y backing put on that one if it's transparent enough MB-2 SE and 'MA-hogany' this week hopefully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozo Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 This one? http://pic.twitter.com/NP0GOlzRJf Looks like they're doing big XY pads on customs now Nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaicen Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 snip MB-2 SE and 'MA-hogany' this week hopefully :'( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 See the post above. I imagine Matt's taking ideas from guitars on here again! Also, if they are doing the full sized X-Y pads again, that makes a certain E guitar a bit less special.... I think I will have the black X-Y backing put on that one if it's transparent enough MB-2 SE and 'MA-hogany' this week hopefully Hole bajeebus, so there is a jazzmaster gonna sue them is funni 2 becus sxc jazz may be paying a visit to Mansons soon too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olly. Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Re: Mine. Hard decision was made. Relic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james90 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Hole bajeebus, so there is a jazzmaster gonna sue them is funni 2 becus sxc jazz may be paying a visit to Mansons soon too I'm going to be disappointed if it's a jaguar. I don't like short scale. and how come? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I'm going to be disappointed if it's a jaguar. I don't like short scale. and how come? Just for a little bit of work with the frets and a general setup hopefully. Kev's fitted out the sustainer and stuff now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazybobbles Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Re: Mine. Hard decision was made. Relic what made you decide that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olly. Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 what made you decide that? Looking back at how I felt when I saw kev's clean version of 007. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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