Phill Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 it says in the EQ mag scan anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolybear Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 hey i was wondering does anyone have the tab of maggies farm the way matt plays it at the end of map of the problematique. The way he played it on abbey road was spectacular Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexical_Whale Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 He plays it in drop C pretty much the same as Rage do but with lots of harmonics, bends and doublestops thrown in at random instead of the run that Morello does on the A/D strings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze015 Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 hey i was wondering does anyone have the tab of maggies farm the way matt plays it at the end of map of the problematique. The way he played it on abbey road was spectacular same as RATM, cept the fill morello does is replaced with harmonics and stuff, just piss around, no point playing it exact, first of all, i doubt matt bellamy had a plan at the time and second of all, playing it exactly as matt did would be out of spirit of what he is doing and out of spirit of alot of riffs muse do between songs, why people need exact tabs is beyond me.....do people really have no imagination? no creativity? so blind they can't see tell what matt is doing with his guitar? and it't not drop c, standard, ratm have never played in drop c, just standard and drop d and occasionally Eb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexical_Whale Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 I meant Matt plays it drop C but apart from that it's the same as Rage do. The stresses of writing english coursework seem to be preventing me from writing properly...bugger! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze015 Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 I meant Matt plays it drop C but apart from that it's the same as Rage do. The stresses of writing english coursework seem to be preventing me from writing properly...bugger! no, muse play in standard, not in drop c, it's exactly the same, infact, ratm's version sounds heavier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doog Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 map of the problematique is in drop c, so he's not going to tune it back up to standard for the riff at the end is he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze015 Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 map of the problematique is in drop c, so he's not going to tune it back up to standard for the riff at the end is he? at what point has motp ever been in drop c? that riff is in E, listen to the RATM one, sounds exactly the same, and maggie's farm is in E, motp is in E, i have no idea where this drop c thing came from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexical_Whale Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 Listen to the Maggie's Farm riff here and then try and play along in standard. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uszyG_Mld0 And I've always thought Rage's version was drop B (Morello has been known to use drop B so don't say he hasn't ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doog Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 at what point has motp ever been in drop c? that riff is in E, listen to the RATM one, sounds exactly the same, and maggie's farm is in E, motp is in E, i have no idea where this drop c thing came from? well you agree that the first chord (the one he strikes 4 times) is C, yes? and then he goes onto the top string to kick off the chord sequence and starts with an open string? well how the hell is he going to play a low C on a string tuned to E? you can even watch the abbey road footage and see him detune the guitar after starlight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze015 Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 well you agree that the first chord (the one he strikes 4 times) is C, yes? and then he goes onto the top string to kick off the chord sequence and starts with an open string? well how the hell is he going to play a low C on a string tuned to E? what low C? please remember, there's a fucking pitchshifter playing a -1octave when he strikes the chord in the first place unless of course that -1octave is playing a note lower than a standard tuned bass.....into a guitar amp, with guitar speakers..my amp (which is a bass amp) can barely handle a blue box playing a D into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexical_Whale Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 The pitchshifter's only on the intro though isn't it? So he would play a C power chord there and then he changes to some stuff just on the bottom string when all the synths kick in. Seriously, just try playing to the Maggie's Farm riff either by Rage or Muse in standard and it just doesn't work. They have to be in Drop-B or drop-C respectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doog Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 what low C? please remember, there's a fucking pitchshifter playing a -1octave when he strikes the chord in the first place unless of course that -1octave is playing a note lower than a standard tuned bass.....into a guitar amp, with guitar speakers..my amp (which is a bass amp) can barely handle a blue box playing a D into it. ok a) he probably has better amps than you, b) the -1 octave is intermittent, not constant, and c) watch the video and you'll see him detune it. or are you actually trying to argue that the first chord is E, not C? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james90 Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 I always though it was drop-C, but that pitch shifting thing makes sense. emails of what? Rich Costey, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze015 Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 ok a) he probably has better amps than you, b) the -1 octave is intermittent, not constant, and c) watch the video and you'll see him detune it. or are you actually trying to argue that the first chord is E, not C? it's Cminor and my amp isn't shit, infact matt has the same head in his rack, so that's quite a stupid point from you really. also the pitchshifting carries on for fucking ages, not just the intro. also you are suggesting that they were filmed at the same time in order, so that's also a redundant point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubicmage Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 the -1 octave is intermittent, not constant Yes, and if it was in drop-C, then it would sound it as though it is drop-C on a bass when it goes down 8vb, which it doesn't. In fact, if it was in drop-C, then there would be very little need for the bass to even be there in the first place, because the guitar would be playing the bass' notes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doog Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 also you are suggesting that they were filmed at the same time in order, so that's also a redundant point. are you suggesting that they filmed one song, fucked off for the night, came back, filmed another, fucked off, and then came back and filmed the last? what reason could they possibly have for NOT filming the songs together? in any case I was wrong - you can see him detuning the guitar at the start of the motp footage. also, proving your point about possibly not recording the songs in order, at the start of the knights footage he still has the m1d1 and he plays a C octave with the 5th string 3rd fret and the 6th string open. you still want to tell me that's an E? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze015 Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 though, thinking about it, it may not be pitchshifting, what could be happening is that matt is playing the notes, the synth involved could be appregiating between them, rather than pitchshifting.....if that makes any sense. the places where there is no pitchsifting, i can't really hear the guitar at all, never really have done, could be playing anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doog Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 though, thinking about it, it may not be pitchshifting, what could be happening is that matt is playing the notes, the synth involved could be appregiating between them, rather than pitchshifting.....if that makes any sense. well yeah that's basically what it does, but when they play it live you can often hear the dry notes underneath the synth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewilders Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 I don't really think it would be in drop C but quite a lot of places seem to believe so. Even a wiki pedia page about guitar tunings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funklord Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 it's drop-c, just watch the video properly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexical_Whale Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 Well either way the Maggie's Farm riff is played in drop C, definately not E. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze015 Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 Well either way the Maggie's Farm riff is played in drop C, definately not E. but does it really matter? it's not even a muse riff and it works perfectly fine in E and might do in C. and as far as i'm aware, it's possible to play motp in standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 bells in C morello in B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexical_Whale Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 but does it really matter? it's not even a muse riff and it works perfectly fine in E and might do in C. and as far as i'm aware, it's possible to play motp in standard. If anything it's easier to play motp in standard but the guy wanted to know how Matt plays the riff at the end and as that was his question yes it does matter. I answered him (as did you) and then all this tuning nonsense started EDIT: bells in C morello in B Thankyou, that's what I've been saying! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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