Rustyy Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 It was the length I'm thinking is unlikely... I can't see it being above 18/19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bs Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Frankly, have Muse ever consistently played 20 songs a night? Apart from the odd special show like Wembley or something, a quick skim through some setlists of each album tour going back to OOS seems to suggest they've been pretty consistent. 17-18 songs per show on average, with 14-16 for festivals or smaller shows. 19+ has always been pretty rare for them to be honest as far as I can see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthijs Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Since they themselves feel that this is the max for performing, I doubt we'll get anything. They should up their game. For a band that's been together for over 30 years this is just insulting to their fans. Maybe I should become a U2 fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Frankly, have Muse ever consistently played 20 songs a night? Apart from the odd special show like Wembley or something, a quick skim through some setlists of each album tour going back to OOS seems to suggest they've been pretty consistent. 17-18 songs per show on average, with 14-16 for festivals or smaller shows. 19+ has always been pretty rare for them to be honest as far as I can see. T2L tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 (edited) Frankly, have Muse ever consistently played 20 songs a night? Apart from the odd special show like Wembley or something, a quick skim through some setlists of each album tour going back to OOS seems to suggest they've been pretty consistent. 17-18 songs per show on average, with 14-16 for festivals or smaller shows. 19+ has always been pretty rare for them to be honest as far as I can see. I think people were just expecting them to progress and add length to the sets once they really started hitting the big time. 15-18 was fine for the first few albums but when you become one of the most popular bands in the world and start being able to consistently sell out arenas and stadiums, you should probs up your game at least a bit. TR's stadium tour (~20 songs) > T2L's arena tour (~19/20) > T2L's stadium tour (24) looked to be a good sign of that, so it's understandable that dropping back down to 16/17 for Drones' arena tour (and only main tour, no stadiums this time) would disappoint people imo. Edited August 16, 2016 by Jobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyP117 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Since they themselves feel that this is the max for performing, I doubt we'll get anything. They should up their game. For a band that's been together for over 30 years this is just insulting to their fans. Maybe I should become a U2 fan. The U2 arena shows I went to had 25 songs each night, I was very pleased with that given they're in their mid fifties now. They had a pretty set structure for the gigs but they still had had five or six rotation spots each night and weren't afraid of playing the odd rarity, one even became a staple. I'd never expect Muse to do a Springsteen/Pearl Jam in terms of length or rotation but...I just don't get how they've managed to play less songs this tour, it baffles me. Very unfamiliar with their music but from what I've heard Radiohead mix things up a lot too? Have they always done that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bs Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Muse used to rotate songs all over the place, or at least changed the order around - Absolution Tour is probably the most solid example from what I've seen, but they seem to have become more restricted over the years. Not exactly sure why, but I presume they feel it's easier for the overall production or whatever. I'm sure they could still do it if they wanted to though. Anyway, back to the previous point. Fair play, guys, I was completely out of the loop around the T2L tour, but I just checked, and yeah...wow, haha! In that case, I can understand the disappointment this time round, I was under the impression that it was still around the same kind of length they'd always done. I only saw them on the TR tour and then the early part of the Drones tour, so it looks like I missed out on the full-length arena shows, haha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumpypotato Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Weren't they playing sets with 20ish songs only a few months ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthijs Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Actual songs or do jams and riffs count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Weren't they playing sets with 20ish songs only a few months ago?Not sure about a few months ago but iirc the festival gigs in 2015 had more songs than they played in the following arena tour. Might be wrong though. Cba to check set lists on my phone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forevermusic Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 I think the longest of this tour was 18 at Rock Werchter last year. They're the same length due to Globalist being so fucking long. I guess you might have seen it as 20 if you're on setlist.fm, as Interlude, Munich Jam, Isolated System and Prelude are counted as separate songs there, which inflates the numbers. But I'd say on here, no, they don't really count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustyy Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 1. Assassin 2. Hyper Music 3. Dead Star 4. Psycho 5. Map of the Problematique + Who Knows Who 6. Stockholm Syndrome + Township Rebellion + Execution Commentary 7. Agitated 8. Citizen Erased 9. Ruled By Secrecy 10. Butterflies & Hurricanes 11. Time is Running Out 12. Darkshines 13. Interlude + Hysteria 14. Plug in Baby 15. Reapers 16. Knights of Cydonia + Space Dementia Outro 17. Bliss 18. Showbiz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Download v2.0 'cause I've just been reminded how top that gig was: Psycho New Born Hyper Music The Handler Micro Cuts Dead Star Citizen Erased *Munchen Jam* Dead Inside Supermassive Black Hole Map Of The Problematique Assassin Time Is Running Out Mercy Knights Of Cydonia [JFK] Uprising Plug In Baby Reapers Stockholm Syndrome Could maybe swap PIB to being after Mercy, either works imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustyy Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 R+L changed; Origin of Symmetry ------ Uprising Supermassive Black Hole Interlude + Hysteria Map of the Problematique Starlight Time is Running Out Dead Star Stockholm Syndrome Knights of Cydonia Bascially resistance and UD for Map and DS. That song choice still confused me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forevermusic Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 I think the idea was for 3 from each post-Origin album. Dead Star or Futurism would've been outstanding though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozza Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 The U2 arena shows I went to had 25 songs each night, I was very pleased with that given they're in their mid fifties now. They had a pretty set structure for the gigs but they still had had five or six rotation spots each night and weren't afraid of playing the odd rarity, one even became a staple. I'd never expect Muse to do a Springsteen/Pearl Jam in terms of length or rotation but...I just don't get how they've managed to play less songs this tour, it baffles me. Very unfamiliar with their music but from what I've heard Radiohead mix things up a lot too? Have they always done that? Radiohead have never played the same set twice from what I recall http://nymag.com/arts/all/process/17306/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacjens Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Radiohead have never played the same set twice from what I recall http://nymag.com/arts/all/process/17306/ I don't care one single bit about Radiohead's music, but I do have massive respect for them for doing that. Must be nice walking into a show with them as a hardcore fan and not knowing what will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyP117 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Radiohead have never played the same set twice from what I recall http://nymag.com/arts/all/process/17306/ Thanks, very interesting! Just had a look through some their setlists from the current tour, it's great how much they mix it up, fans can do one show or multiple nights and come away completely satisfied every time. Their sets are always a good length too. Please Muse, take note. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bs Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 "If only Muse were more like Radiohead!" - Muse board, 2016 How did it come to this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forevermusic Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 "If only Muse were more like Radiohead!" - Muse board, 2016 How did it come to this? Because clearly more people on here like Radiohead. I'm ready and willing to admit I don't particularly rate them. Setlist attitude is better, but aside from that... eh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacjens Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 "If only Muse were more like Radiohead!" - Muse board, 2016 How did it come to this? More like "If only all world-known bands were more like Radiohead in terms of setlist rotation and making the shows unpredictable". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozza Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 "If only Muse were more like Radiohead!" - Muse board, 2016 How did it come to this? It's been like this since 2006 to be fair. Anyway Radiohead have 9 albums but you never really know what songs you're going to get. A few crop up more often than others but there's not so much pattern. With Muse the structure of the setlist and staples have barely changed since 2007, plus the sets are generally shorter with more filler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forevermusic Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 It's been like this since 2006 to be fair. Anyway Radiohead have 9 albums but you never really know what songs you're going to get. A few crop up more often than others but there's not so much pattern. With Muse the structure of the setlist and staples have barely changed since 2007, plus the sets are generally shorter with more filler. Sounds about right. Seems to be a constant on an occasionally mood-shifting board - I'm pretty sure there was a period on here when The Resistance was rated as better than Black Holes, and Invincible was seen as the worst cheese moment. How times change. Certainly, a staple is overdue dropping. They had seemed to get it better on the last tour, given Plug in Baby and Hysteria were hardly every-show regulars on T2L, but on this they've rarely been out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duk3 Fluk3m Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 R+L changed; Origin of Symmetry ------ Uprising Supermassive Black Hole Interlude + Hysteria Map of the Problematique Starlight Time is Running Out Dead Star Stockholm Syndrome Knights of Cydonia Bascially resistance and UD for Map and DS. That song choice still confused me Resistance has never really been great live, I love the album track but it loses so much punch live. Not many Muse songs sound better in the studio but that is one of them. (If it weren't for the 2006 bootlegs, I would say the same about Starlight,) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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